Official Gracie Versus Hughes Thread

Double D · 05-18-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

What is with all the exclimation points! Are you yelling while typing!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

topolo · 05-18-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

What is with all the exclimation points! Are you yelling while typing!

This is an interogative and it needs a question mark you dumb bastard.

Doublebase · 05-19-2006, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by topolo

This is an interogative and it needs a question mark you dumb bastard.

You're an interogative.

**IainDaniel** · 05-19-2006, 07:16 AM

When was Gracie's last fight in the UFC?

AKIRA · 05-19-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

What is with all the exclimation points! Are you yelling while typing!

Hah! reminds me of that asshole, MyK.

Ive never liked either of these fighters. I thought gracie was a bore to watch and hughes just has that attitude that you cant help but to dislike. Funny how all of you dont like him either.

I dont think strength is going to be a problem for gracie as it never has. I do, however, worry about his techinque. With the new rules of not having any action for a given amount of time and standing them up, gracie might be fucked. His fights were all about boring shit. Needless to say though, they were long, but effective.

Double D · 05-19-2006, 06:37 PM

Yeah Gracie is kinda boring to watch fight, but he does get the job done. Now if I recall right I think Gracie has only lost 1 fight and it was in Prize fighting. I watched that particular fight and the guy that Gracie was fighting looked like he tapped out in like the 2nd or 3rd round. I just have a hard time believing that Gracie will be beat. I started watching these things whenever they first started and it has came a long way. Before they had to weight classes or anything they just had a huge tournament (which was much more interesting). Now these guys only fight once a night, before they had to be conditioned to go the distance and thats what is impressive with the older guys.

Tier · 05-19-2006, 06:46 PM

Sakuraba humiliated Gracie, like he was fighting a little girl, that bad.

Double D · 05-19-2006, 06:55 PM

Yeah he did beat him, but if you get on the net and watch some of it in like the second or third round it did look like he tapped. I am not saying Gracie was winning or he did anything great I am just saying that Sakuraba seemed to had tapped on Gracies leg at a point in the match.

musclepump · 05-19-2006, 07:05 PM

Grace will own Hughes.

The Monkey Man · 05-19-2006, 08:53 PM

Hughes...

Because his helicopters and satellite communication systems
will be an advantage...

AKIRA · 05-19-2006, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Yeah he did beat him, but if you get on the net and watch some of it in like the second or third round it did look like he tapped. I am not saying Gracie was winning or he did anything great I am just saying that Sakuraba seemed to had tapped on Gracies leg at a point in the match.

Well god dammit, I wanna see this clip! Ive heard about it from my friend a few months ago and still havent seen it.

AKIRA · 05-19-2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

I started watching these things whenever they first started and it has came a long way. Before they had to weight classes or anything they just had a huge tournament (which was much more interesting). Now these guys only fight once a night, before they had to be conditioned to go the distance and thats what is impressive with the older guys.

Holy shit. Thats a good point. I too favor the old times, but for kinda the 'wrong' reasons. Like Dan Severn's first fight. He had to fight "Mad Dog" I think his title was. Anyway it was like Andre vs. the Giant. Funny ass shit.

'Going the distance' does have a draw back and its draw back is actually its quality. The men have to do fight after fight and earn their title. But when its one fight of the night, everyone fighting is fresh.

BoneCrusher · 05-19-2006, 11:21 PM

Gracie was the 1st big UFC star. EVERYONE in America that knew anything at all about UFC knew his name. 14 years ago?

We know he has trained and rolled and done everything he could do to fight off old age ... but if Gracie shows up in his gie and expects to beat Hughes with only his ground game he gonna get his ass kicked. Gracie is slower, his joints are weaker, and his ego is way bigger. He will get his chin tapped up on, his shoots sprawled out, and his sub's spun out of. Nowadays a gie is nothing more than a handle for a good MMA fighter to use against the guy wearing it ...

Hughes knows who and what Gracie is ... he grew up watching the dude. He will be prepared.

fufu · 05-19-2006, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Gracie was the 1st big UFC star. EVERYONE in America that knew anything at all about UFC knew his name. 14 years ago?

We know he has trained and rolled and done everything he could do to fight off old age ... but if Gracie shows up in his gie and expects to beat Hughes with only his ground game he gonna get his ass kicked. Gracie is slower, his joints are weaker, and his ego is way bigger. He will get his chin tapped up on, his shoots sprawled out, and his sub's spun out of. Nowadays a gie is nothing more than a handle for a good MMA fighter to use against the guy wearing it ...

Hughes knows who and what Gracie is ... he grew up watching the dude. He will be prepared.

So you think Gracie is gonna win easily?

BigDyl · 05-20-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Gracie was the 1st big UFC star. EVERYONE in America that knew anything at all about UFC knew his name. 14 years ago?

We know he has trained and rolled and done everything he could do to fight off old age ... but if Gracie shows up in his gie and expects to beat Hughes with only his ground game he gonna get his ass kicked. Gracie is slower, his joints are weaker, and his ego is way bigger. He will get his chin tapped up on, his shoots sprawled out, and his sub's spun out of. Nowadays a gie is nothing more than a handle for a good MMA fighter to use against the guy wearing it ...

Hughes knows who and what Gracie is ... he grew up watching the dude. He will be prepared.

First off, he CANNOT wear a GI anymore. This is against UFC rules. Secondly, Gracie does not HAVE a big ego. He is like any other althlete who has done well at his game.

Just because YOU have seen Gracie tap people out, does not make you a Jiu Jitsu Black Belt. Training 10 years DOES NOT even make you one. Gracie doesn't have to work on his ground skills, he ONLY knees to work on his stand up. So don't count him out so easily. Most fights like this come down to VERY controversial decisions. I would be suprised if this isn't one of those occasions.

BoneCrusher · 05-20-2006, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

First off, he CANNOT wear a GI anymore. This is against UFC rules. Secondly, Gracie does not HAVE a big ego. He is like any other althlete who has done well at his game.

Just because YOU have seen Gracie tap people out, does not make you a Jiu Jitsu Black Belt. Training 10 years DOES NOT even make you one. Gracie doesn't have to work on his ground skills, he ONLY knees to work on his stand up. So don't count him out so easily. Most fights like this come down to VERY controversial decisions. I would be suprised if this isn't one of those occasions.

I seen a video on BJJ once so yeah Imma expert

I will agree with ya on the controversial frufru. Thanks for the no gi update ... didn't catch that one till ya mentioned it .

The ego issue is your perspective ... I don't agree. I've seen him over the years as he has fought in Brazil, Japan, and the USA. He has an over inflated ego ... he is just not all loud with it.

To a recent UFC audience ... "This is the house that I built".

ANY fighter who risks permanent injury to people he sub's when he knows the REF has called the match is all ego IMHO.

TJ Cline · 05-20-2006, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

Hah! reminds me of that asshole, MyK.

PLay nice Jr.

TJ Cline · 05-20-2006, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Gracie was the 1st big UFC star. EVERYONE in America that knew anything at all about UFC knew his name. 14 years ago?

We know he has trained and rolled and done everything he could do to fight off old age ... but if Gracie shows up in his gie and expects to beat Hughes with only his ground game he gonna get his ass kicked. Gracie is slower, his joints are weaker, and his ego is way bigger. He will get his chin tapped up on, his shoots sprawled out, and his sub's spun out of. Nowadays a gie is nothing more than a handle for a good MMA fighter to use against the guy wearing it ...

Hughes knows who and what Gracie is ... he grew up watching the dude. He will be prepared.

PLease sonny, Gracy will own him then change Hughes diaper when the match is over

AKIRA · 05-20-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

PLay nice Jr.

AKIRA · 05-20-2006, 03:09 PM

[quote=BoneCrusher] Thanks for the no gi update ... didn't catch that one till ya mentioned it .
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I didnt know either. But I believe wearing the Gi was basically a technique on his part..

Goodfella9783 · 05-20-2006, 03:14 PM

[quote=AKIRA]

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Thanks for the no gi update ... didn't catch that one till ya mentioned it .
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I didnt know either. But I believe wearing the Gi was basically a technique on his part..

Yup, it's basically a grip factor. While he's maneuvering and trying to get his submissions, there is a lesser chance of the opponent slipping out.

Goodfella9783 · 05-20-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

First off, he CANNOT wear a GI anymore. This is against UFC rules. Secondly, Gracie does not HAVE a big ego. He is like any other althlete who has done well at his game.

So I take it you watch UFC now?

BigDyl · 05-20-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

So I take it you watch UFC now?

BoneCrusher · 05-20-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

PLease sonny, Gracy will own him then change Hughes diaper when the match is over

Sorry pops but you left out the part where Gracie changes his depends first ... after nap time.

BigDyl · 05-20-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Sorry pops but you left out the part where Gracie changes his depends first ... after nap time.

Aren't you older than Gracie?

TJ Cline · 05-21-2006, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Sorry pops but you left out the part where Gracie changes his depends first ... after nap time.

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Aren't you older than Gracie?

BoneCrusher · 05-21-2006, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Aren't you older than Gracie?

Ummm ... well .... uh yeah.

Goodfella9783 · 05-22-2006, 07:54 PM

There's a countdown special on tonight @ 10 on Spike.

BigDyl · 05-23-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

There's a countdown special on tonight @ 10 on Spike.

This is worse than the superbowl. Please save the count down for fight day.

ReproMan · 05-23-2006, 09:15 AM

The arguement that Gracie has always faced stronger opponents is out the window with this one. In the past when he has faced stronger opponents they have been bigger and slower. Hughes is not only MUCH stronger, he's MUCH faster, and smaller. Unfortunately I don't believe Gracie can match Hughes intensity, and this will be an easy victory...

View Poll Results: Who will win?
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05-19-2006, 07:16 AM	#34
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05-19-2006, 06:37 PM	#36
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	Yeah Gracie is kinda boring to watch fight, but he does get the job done. Now if I recall right I think Gracie has only lost 1 fight and it was in Prize fighting. I watched that particular fight and the guy that Gracie was fighting looked like he tapped out in like the 2nd or 3rd round. I just have a hard time believing that Gracie will be beat. I started watching these things whenever they first started and it has came a long way. Before they had to weight classes or anything they just had a huge tournament (which was much more interesting). Now these guys only fight once a night, before they had to be conditioned to go the distance and thats what is impressive with the older guys.

05-19-2006, 06:46 PM	#37
Tier Your Pretend Friend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 765	Sakuraba humiliated Gracie, like he was fighting a little girl, that bad.

05-19-2006, 06:55 PM	#38
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	Yeah he did beat him, but if you get on the net and watch some of it in like the second or third round it did look like he tapped. I am not saying Gracie was winning or he did anything great I am just saying that Sakuraba seemed to had tapped on Gracies leg at a point in the match.

05-19-2006, 11:21 PM	#43
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,589	Gracie was the 1st big UFC star. EVERYONE in America that knew anything at all about UFC knew his name. 14 years ago? We know he has trained and rolled and done everything he could do to fight off old age ... but if Gracie shows up in his gie and expects to beat Hughes with only his ground game he gonna get his ass kicked. Gracie is slower, his joints are weaker, and his ego is way bigger. He will get his chin tapped up on, his shoots sprawled out, and his sub's spun out of. Nowadays a gie is nothing more than a handle for a good MMA fighter to use against the guy wearing it ... Hughes knows who and what Gracie is ... he grew up watching the dude. He will be prepared.

05-22-2006, 07:54 PM	#58
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,226	There's a countdown special on tonight @ 10 on Spike.

05-23-2006, 09:15 AM	#60
ReproMan Señor Member Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 7,260	The arguement that Gracie has always faced stronger opponents is out the window with this one. In the past when he has faced stronger opponents they have been bigger and slower. Hughes is not only MUCH stronger, he's MUCH faster, and smaller. Unfortunately I don't believe Gracie can match Hughes intensity, and this will be an easy victory...

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