Official Gracie Versus Hughes Thread

BoneCrusher · 05-28-2006, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

He's an asshole, who plays gay country music when he comes out. I hope that fucker fights someone who is younger than 50 years old. Penn will own his ass, as will Pierre. And 90% of people from Pride would KO his ass.

Wanderlie vs Hughes = 30 second fight. Pride owns UFC in every weight class. Hunt would Own the heavy weights in UFC and he is not even the best in Pride.

BoneCrusher · 05-28-2006, 01:08 PM

Downloading the unaired Horn vs Sonen match from UFC60 rt now ... still waiting for the entire UFC60 download to show up though.

bigss75 · 05-28-2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Wanderlie vs Hughes = 30 second fight. Pride owns UFC in every weight class. Hunt would Own the heavy weights in UFC and he is not even the best in Pride.

Silva has over 30 pounds on hughes. I think a better fight would be silva vs. franklin. Pride doesnt have any stand outs under 170. They have light heavyweight and heavyweight on lockdown but there isnt much talent in the heavyweight division of ufc

BoneCrusher · 05-28-2006, 01:50 PM

Why I watch MMA ...

MMA Desire

fufu · 05-28-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Why I watch MMA ...

MMA Desire

I hate the songs that they play over these kind of videos.

SubliminalX · 05-28-2006, 05:28 PM

Here's the Hughes vs. Gracie fight for anyone interested.

http://rapidshare.de/files/21632773/...racie.mpg.html

BoneCrusher · 05-28-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fufu

I hate the songs that they play over these kind of videos.

You hate rock?

hmmmmm ... your stock is plummiting son.

BigDyl · 05-29-2006, 12:27 AM

I'm still pissed about that stupid fight. Gracie shouldn't have taken the fight. They should have got a Gracie fighter who was well rounded, and in his prime. I'm actually pretty mad. I think it was rigged in the sense that Gracie didn't do shit, he didn't even try to work anything on the ground.

Fuck anyone who talks shit about it. Minotauro owns your gay ass. Pride owns UFC's stupid comerical ass. Fedor owns your ass. The gracie fighting style can stand alone against your gay ass versus any single discipline. And fuck a single discipline because I'll kick your ass.

BoneCrusher · 05-29-2006, 01:06 AM

Looks like a shurdog post ... only thing you're missing is "Nuthugger".

BigDyl anyone who is not in agreement with your statements about PRIDE vs UFC ... for the most part ... is not a true MMA fan. Abu Dhabi is some killer shit though, and Fedor never studied BJJ yet he rules.

My point is this bro ... it's an MMA world now. The days of trying to perfect one style then rule with that alone forever are over. Just as a pure boxer would eventually get pwned so did a pure BJJ master when faced with a the combined skills that any top level seasoned MMA fighter now has. It would have been ANY MMA fighter as good as Hughes (think Japan) that woulda ended Gracie ... he is just too one dimensional.

But never fear son I got yer back. I talked to Matt over breakfast ... he said he'll send you a Matt Hughes tee-shirt.

BigDyl · 05-29-2006, 01:34 AM

Matt's a cocky bastard who thinks he is the best fighter of all time. 10 years from now, the UFC will invite Matt Hughes back to fight "Fighter X" Top Welter Weight, and we will see who wins.

I will personally KO/Sub anyone who wants to argue about it. Matt Hughes is gay. Everyone has a cool theme song, BUT him. His site is political as hell, and is some sheep who blindly supports neo-conservatives like a bunch of clowns on this site. Gay ass country music, and fuck welter weights, that's a gay weight class anyways. Matt's roided up as fuck anyways. Probably never comes off straight cycles of test/dbol. GAY!

fuck everyone.

Goodfella9783 · 05-29-2006, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Looks like a shurdog post ... only thing you're missing is "Nuthugger".

BigDyl anyone who is not in agreement with your statements about PRIDE vs UFC ... for the most part ... is not a true MMA fan. Abu Dhabi is some killer shit though, and Fedor never studied BJJ yet he rules.

My point is this bro ... it's an MMA world now. The days of trying to perfect one style then rule with that alone forever are over. Just as a pure boxer would eventually get pwned so did a pure BJJ master when faced with a the combined skills that any top level seasoned MMA fighter now has. It would have been ANY MMA fighter as good as Hughes (think Japan) that woulda ended Gracie ... he is just too one dimensional.

But never fear son I got yer back. I talked to Matt over breakfast ... he said he'll send you a Matt Hughes tee-shirt.

That's what made this fight so damn predictable

Doublebase · 05-29-2006, 11:07 AM

I was disapointed in the fight. I was glad to hear Gracie say he will fight again in the UFC. That is all I have to say about that fight. The best fight IMO that night was the Diego Sanchez fight. That Canadian he fought was awesome. Some of the best defense I have ever seen. He could have won the fight if he could have landed some kicks or punches. He had Diego on his back for 2 mins. It was awesome. I'm happy Vera won, I think he has a good future ahead of him. I would like to see him drop down to 205 but I doubt that will happen. I was also impressed with Swick. I picked him to win. I think he is an awesome fighter. I'm ready for July 8th now.

BigDyl · 05-29-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

That's what made this fight so damn predictable

Goodfella9783 · 05-29-2006, 04:57 PM

To me, anyone who picked Gracie either hasn't followed UFC for very long or doesn't know much about fighting.

bigss75 · 05-29-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

I was disapointed in the fight. I was glad to hear Gracie say he will fight again in the UFC. That is all I have to say about that fight. The best fight IMO that night was the Diego Sanchez fight. That Canadian he fought was awesome. Some of the best defense I have ever seen. He could have won the fight if he could have landed some kicks or punches. He had Diego on his back for 2 mins. It was awesome. I'm happy Vera won, I think he has a good future ahead of him. I would like to see him drop down to 205 but I doubt that will happen. I was also impressed with Swick. I picked him to win. I think he is an awesome fighter. I'm ready for July 8th now.

I think the same about Vera he really needs to choose which weightclass he wants to compete in and gain or drop twenty pounds.

JordanMang · 05-29-2006, 06:51 PM

If Gracie had been allowed to wear the Gi he would have won the fight IMO. He got dominated, but a I still thing he would have won.

Goodfella9783 · 05-29-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

If Gracie had been allowed to wear the Gi he would have won the fight IMO. He got dominated, but a I still thing he would have won.

Why is that? Nothing he did or didn't do appeared to have any relation to him not wearing a gi. He had no offense, got put in a Kemura and got pounded. Nothin a gi can stop.

BigDyl · 05-29-2006, 08:22 PM

I hope Matt Hughes gets cancer and dies.

BoneCrusher · 05-29-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

I hope Matt Hughes gets cancer and dies.

You are so even headed bro. You inspire me to become a more rational and right thinking human being.

Unfortunatly Matt was reading your post this afternoon after training and decided to cancel your tee-shirt. He instead is sending you a life-time subscription to the Limbaugh Letter ... Matt says you need a lil' Rush in your life.

BigDyl · 05-29-2006, 08:43 PM

Matt Hughes is just the "IN" fighter right now. He doesn't have the legacy of Gracie. He didn't revolutionize anything. He just abuses steroids (probably as many as Ronnie Coleman, but his MMA diet won't let him hold as much mass), had a history of wrestling, and then on top of that he fights an old man. No one will remember this clown in 10 years.

You seem to love him. That's great. You probably don't even practice MMA anyways.

Goodfella9783 · 05-29-2006, 08:49 PM

And you seem to have no respect for a fellow mixed martial artist. Hughes shitted on Gracie's disgraceful JJ, and out did him in everything else. Royce deserves a helluva a lot of credit for what he has done in the past and for taking the fight, but it's clear he has no place in the UFC anymore.

And who cares who practices MMA and who doesn't. Anyone can be a fan of it and understand it easily.

BigDyl · 05-29-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

And you seem to have no respect for a fellow mixed martial artist. Hughes shitted on Gracie's disgraceful JJ, and out did him in everything else. Royce deserves a helluva a lot of credit for what he has done in the past and for taking the fight, but it's clear he has no place in the UFC anymore.

And who cares who practices MMA and who doesn't. Anyone can be a fan of it and understand it easily.

Whatever dude, I'd sub your lame ass.

Goodfella9783 · 05-29-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Whatever dude, I'd sub your lame ass.

Any clown can learn BJJ. There's places everyfuckinwhere nowadays. It's the "in" thing to do in fighting

. Personally, I think it comes in handy in MMA obviously, but it's no good to be specifically versed in only JJ. And I'm not too touchy-feely with dudes, so I'd prefer to strike or box as opposed to rolling around with them on the ground. No offense.

BigDyl · 05-29-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

Any clown can learn BJJ. There's places everyfuckinwhere nowadays. It's the "in" thing to do in fighting

. Personally, I think it comes in handy in MMA obviously, but it's no good to be specifically versed in only JJ. And I'm not too touchy-feely with dudes, so I'd prefer to strike or box as opposed to rolling around with them on the ground. No offense.

I can strike too, and am athletic. So you'd be outmatched. Nice try.

bigss75 · 05-29-2006, 09:40 PM

You know what they say about winning an arguement over the internet right.

BoneCrusher · 05-29-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

You seem to love him. That's great.

Wrong 1 time ... don't care one way or another. I don't pay attention to a fighters politics, sexuality, socioeconomic status or his world look on life. If he has skills, fights a straight fight ... as in no unneeded fucked-up damages (Frank Mir likes to do this) or trying to lie about taping out (Shamrock vs Gracie) nor un-sportsman like conduct (Tito is a punk like that) ... then I will respect the fighter for what he brings to the arena.

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You probably don't even practice MMA anyways.

Wrong 2 times. I'm 46 and started at 15. I stayed in training till my mid '30s but now only roll and spare with my son. HE is getting good and developing well but I'm stronger and still way more experienced so I have the edge ... for a short while longer. He'll pass me by soon though which is as it should be.

I did call this fight correctly btw ...

BigDyl · 05-29-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Wrong 1 time ... don't care one way or another. I don't pay attention to a fighters politics, sexuality, socioeconomic status or his world look on life. If he has skills, fights a straight fight ... as in no unneeded fucked-up damages (Frank Mir likes to do this) or trying to lie about taping out (Shamrock vs Gracie) nor un-sportsman like conduct (Tito is a punk like that) ... then I will respect the fighter for what he brings to the arena.

Wrong 2 times. I'm 46 and started at 15. I stayed in training till my mid '30s but now only roll and spare with my son. HE is getting good and developing well but I'm stronger and still way more experienced so I have the edge ... for a short while longer. He'll pass me by soon though which is as it should be.

I did call this fight correctly btw ...

I'd still own you.

Goodfella9783 · 05-29-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

I can strike too, and am athletic. So you'd be outmatched. Nice try.

I don't train guy

...never said I did

BigDyl · 05-29-2006, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

I don't train guy

...never said I did

Yeah, owned.

Goodfella9783 · 05-29-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

Yeah, owned.

You owned a non-fighter over the internet... I'm seeing big things for your fighting career. Give me your adress I'll send you a cookie

.

How long have you been training anyway?

View Poll Results: Who will win?
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Hughes	10	38.46%
I dunno, I'm retarded	3	11.54%
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05-29-2006, 11:07 AM	#132
Doublebase Lightweight, Ya Buddy! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 7,325	I was disapointed in the fight. I was glad to hear Gracie say he will fight again in the UFC. That is all I have to say about that fight. The best fight IMO that night was the Diego Sanchez fight. That Canadian he fought was awesome. Some of the best defense I have ever seen. He could have won the fight if he could have landed some kicks or punches. He had Diego on his back for 2 mins. It was awesome. I'm happy Vera won, I think he has a good future ahead of him. I would like to see him drop down to 205 but I doubt that will happen. I was also impressed with Swick. I picked him to win. I think he is an awesome fighter. I'm ready for July 8th now. "A child does not learn to squat from the top down -- in other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and makes the conscious decision to stand." - Gray Cook

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05-28-2006, 01:08 PM	#122
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,589	Downloading the unaired Horn vs Sonen match from UFC60 rt now ... still waiting for the entire UFC60 download to show up though.

05-28-2006, 01:50 PM	#124
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,589	Why I watch MMA ... MMA Desire

05-28-2006, 05:28 PM	#126
SubliminalX Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 147	Here's the Hughes vs. Gracie fight for anyone interested. http://rapidshare.de/files/21632773/...racie.mpg.html

05-29-2006, 01:06 AM	#129
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,589	Looks like a shurdog post ... only thing you're missing is "Nuthugger". BigDyl anyone who is not in agreement with your statements about PRIDE vs UFC ... for the most part ... is not a true MMA fan. Abu Dhabi is some killer shit though, and Fedor never studied BJJ yet he rules. My point is this bro ... it's an MMA world now. The days of trying to perfect one style then rule with that alone forever are over. Just as a pure boxer would eventually get pwned so did a pure BJJ master when faced with a the combined skills that any top level seasoned MMA fighter now has. It would have been ANY MMA fighter as good as Hughes (think Japan) that woulda ended Gracie ... he is just too one dimensional. But never fear son I got yer back. I talked to Matt over breakfast ... he said he'll send you a Matt Hughes tee-shirt.

05-29-2006, 04:57 PM	#134
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,226	To me, anyone who picked Gracie either hasn't followed UFC for very long or doesn't know much about fighting.

05-29-2006, 06:51 PM	#136
JordanMang Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 862	If Gracie had been allowed to wear the Gi he would have won the fight IMO. He got dominated, but a I still thing he would have won.

05-29-2006, 08:49 PM	#141
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,226	And you seem to have no respect for a fellow mixed martial artist. Hughes shitted on Gracie's disgraceful JJ, and out did him in everything else. Royce deserves a helluva a lot of credit for what he has done in the past and for taking the fight, but it's clear he has no place in the UFC anymore. And who cares who practices MMA and who doesn't. Anyone can be a fan of it and understand it easily.

05-29-2006, 09:40 PM	#145
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,125	You know what they say about winning an arguement over the internet right.