MMA News and Notes

Richie1888 · 03-05-2008, 06:44 AM

any idea who chuck is getting his next fight ?

PreMier · 03-05-2008, 09:16 AM

i heard it was going to be maricuo rua(sp) shogun

fufu · 03-05-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PreMier

i heard it was going to be maricuo rua(sp) shogun

It was, but he injured his knee again, so he is out.

AKIRA · 03-05-2008, 01:44 PM

Jesus christ. These PRIDE fighters are so fragile.

Richie1888 · 03-06-2008, 06:41 AM

whos an availbale replacement

i see jardine will be fighting silva thats interesting fight ( i sound like joe rogan )

fufu · 03-06-2008, 10:05 AM

Rashad Evans now fighting Chuck at 85.

Chuck by round 2 tko.

AKIRA · 03-06-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Richie1888

whos an availbale replacement

i see jardine will be fighting silva thats interesting fight ( i sound like joe rogan )

Ahhh, good! I dont want to give up on wanderlei (sp?) yet. He, Minotaur, and Herring are the only PRIDE fighters I am on the fence with deciding if theyve lost it.

PreMier · 03-06-2008, 10:43 AM

how can you be on the fence with NOG? he beat sylvia, and no one in the heavyweight division will be able to beat him IMO. the only person in pride that could consistantly stop him was fedor

fufu · 03-06-2008, 04:18 PM

I could see possibly Vera or Arlovski beating Nog. They would have to really push their stand up and open up. Nog is almost impossible to KO. If they can avoid the guard and keep it standing they may be able to win via a decision or tko.

AKIRA · 03-06-2008, 06:09 PM

Yeah. Nog just didnt look impressive to me when faced against the Jumbo Jabber. He just doesnt have that aura about him the way Silva, GSP, and Fedor have. I wouldnt be surprised if his days on the throne wont last long.

AKIRA · 03-07-2008, 10:47 AM

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Confirmation Thursday of a rumor that circulated for weeks has made Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) the most sought-after free agent in mixed martial arts â€¦ again.

The move by Emelianenko, first reported by ESPN, immediately rekindled talk of the Russian heavyweight fighting in the UFC, perhaps even against Randy Couture (Pictures).

Apy Echteld, who was hired as part of the European branch of M-1 Global and is a longtime manager of the 31-year-old Russian, told ESPN's Ryan Hockensmith that Emelianenko would be willing to restart contract negotiations with the UFC once the "divorce" is finalized.

M-1 CEO Monte Cox declined to comment on Thursday's news report, however he told Sherdog.com that M-1 and Emelianenko continue to share a "working relationship."

The question, then, is for how long?

According to one source that asked not to be identified, M-1 will likely expect Emelianenko to return a $1.5 million signing bonus he was paid last September. Negotiations should be finalized by Tuesday of next week, the same source said.

A free-agent Emelianenko could benefit from a deeper, more competitive bidding pool.

Newly minted with a historic TV deal from CBS, EliteXC would be "absolutely interested in Fedor if he was a free agent," Jeremy Lappen, the company's head of fighter operations, told Sherdog.com. "Of course, we're very friendly with Monte and have a close relationship with M-1 and would never step on their toes."

Mark Cuban, who has quickly turned HDNet into a desired premium-television destination for MMA fans, tempered expectations, telling Sherdog.com he doesn't plan on simply outspending competitors in an effort to sign the heavyweight.

"We always want to work with the best in the world," Cuban responded via e-mail. "That said, we aren't in the business of bidding wars. We are in the business of developing, promoting and supporting fighters and their careers and partnering with any and all who can help us accomplish that."

World Victory Road and Dream -- Japanese promoters attempting to establish themselves in Pride's wake -- could be Emelianenko suitors, though the MMA industry in that part of the world is not as strong as it was during the Russian's heyday.

Wildcard groups, such as the one apparently comprised of Oscar de la Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions and clothing apparel company Affliction, which sponsors Emelianenko and Couture, could enter the fray. An Affliction photo shoot featuring the heavyweight pair created quite a stir when shots and video of the fighters standing nose to nose hit the Internet.

Last October the newly formed M-1 Global, led by investor Mitchell Maxwell and Cox, announced at a New York news conference that they had won the war for the wandering Pride heavyweight king.

Emelianenko was expected to fight six times for $12 million over a two-year period for M-1. He fought just once since October, a co-promoted bout on New Year's Eve in Japan against an unranked opponent. Meanwhile M-1 has yet to produce its first event.

The Russian explained the decision against signing with the UFC came down largely to his opinion of the company's president.

"You cannot start a relationship with someone using those phrases," he said in New York, alluding to White's repeated description of Emelianenko's management as "crazy Russians."

Asked if he remained interested in signing Emelianenko (27-1-0, 1 NC) following a year of failed negotiations and a war of words that resulted in the promoter calling the No. 1-ranked heavyweight a "farce," White told ESPN: "Absolutely, 100 percent, in a heartbeat. People think he's the best -- I don't, not even close. But if it's somehow possible, I would make it happen."

"We're open to a discussion," Echteld responded to ESPN after learning of the UFC's potentially malleable position. "If everybody is willing to put a little wine in the water, then we have something to work with. There is space for this to happen."

Though Emelianenko's management, led by Vadim Finkelchtein and Echteld, expressed in late July that the UFC offer was extremely lucrative, it was also the most restrictive in terms of likeness rights, exclusivity and other points they did not want their fighter to concede.

The UFC chose not to budge either, leading to the creation of M-1 Global and what was thought to be the new home for Emelianenko.

A renegotiation for White would focus on getting Emelianenko in the Octagon across from Couture. While the UFC boss heavily favors "The Natural" in that matchup, the possibility of it taking place -- in the UFC or anywhere else -- is unknown while both sides battle in court over the status of Couture's contract.

After announcing his ill-fated deal with M-1 last fall, Emelianenko called Couture's challenge of the UFC "positive" and said he was "very proud that Couture made such a great decision."

It would be ironic if in the end the Russian signed with the UFC as a courtroom-tested Couture somehow freed himself from the most successful organization in MMA.

Wherever Fedor settles, fans will demand he fights the best challengers, starting with the 44-year-old former UFC champ.

Fedor’s Free Agency Fallout

steppin-up · 03-14-2008, 08:00 PM

it would be great to see him step back into the octogon indeed...although i feel the new breed of fighters will challenge him in a whole new league with their better than just well rounded skills....who would i like to see come back from the dead?....mark kerr.... the man was a vicious ground and pound specialist and definately fell out of the picture before his day was done.....bring back the smashing machine!!!!

fufu · 03-15-2008, 10:49 AM

Mark Kerr is done.....I liked him in is prime but he has no chance against any top 10 competetion.

steppin-up · 03-16-2008, 02:38 AM

ok so mark kerr is done, but still how do you think mark coleman will rate against the new heavywieght fighters,....i think people like andre arlovski fitness and skills would be too much for the old school techniques employed by mark coleman, but with that said i haven't seen him fight for a while since he has been in pride.......just out of interest.....albeit a while ago now....what's your view on gilbert yvel?....also its nice to have someone to chat to about these things....aint much happening in australia in this field....not like elvis sinosic put us in the spotlight...unless it was to point out...we don't know when to tap...lol

fufu · 03-27-2008, 11:46 AM

Anyone catch the WEC card last night? It was good.

fufu · 03-27-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by steppin-up

ok so mark kerr is done, but still how do you think mark coleman will rate against the new heavywieght fighters,....i think people like andre arlovski fitness and skills would be too much for the old school techniques employed by mark coleman, but with that said i haven't seen him fight for a while since he has been in pride.......just out of interest.....albeit a while ago now....what's your view on gilbert yvel?....also its nice to have someone to chat to about these things....aint much happening in australia in this field....not like elvis sinosic put us in the spotlight...unless it was to point out...we don't know when to tap...lol

Coleman has always been a good controlling wrestler but he lacks athleticism and stamina. That was the Coleman of the past, I don't know what he will be like now, probably a poorer version. I actually want to see him fight Lesnar, in a side-showy kind of way.

I don't know much about Yvel at all.

I think people could easily counter his style if they worked for it. He is one dimensional. Against any top-10 he is toast.

AKIRA · 03-27-2008, 06:17 PM

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Anyone catch the WEC card last night? It was good.

I saw that it was on, but I thought it was yet another fucking repeat. They play the shit out of certain 'fight nights,' but I dont mind VS. for doing that. Its better than Spike's endless hours of fucking CSI!

fufu · 03-27-2008, 08:21 PM

CSI...blech

Next UFN is getting 3 hours of air. Don't miss those fights, got some great match ups.

BTW, the WEC card was pretty damn good.

emitecaps · 03-27-2008, 08:32 PM

The WEC card was ok, nothing spectacular. The upcoming UFN looks great, I would actually purchase it if it were a PPV.

Yvel is a one dimensional kickboxer who resorts to cheating when things aren't going his way. His ground game sucks and if he's on his backs he's done.

Coleman got massacred by Fedor in his last fight but then again who wouldn't I think he might fare well against Brock until he gasses at the end of the first. Him and Kerr fighting in their primes would have been a good fight.

bigss75 · 03-29-2008, 12:39 AM

From the sounds of it Tim "The Sloth" Sylvia is jumping ship from the UFC. His manager is part of M-1 but since it lost Fedor they dont have anything. Again the mma hws are a complete cluster. I wonder if tim leaves if they are gonna re-sign Arlovski/Crocop?

tallcall · 03-29-2008, 05:18 AM

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The next fight night is right before my birthday, so for my birthday I want the following:

1. Lauzon wins over Florian (really going to be a treat either way!)

2. Thiago "Pitbull" Alves wins over Karo (I can't stand Karo, hope Thiago rocks him!)

3. Matt Hamil Wins or Ties with Stephan Bonnar

4. Aurelio wins over Fisher (probably won't happen, but it's my birthday - I love them both so it doesn't really matter)

5. Din Thomas wins over Josh Near (again, I like them both, but I'm pulling for my team)

6. Guida wins over Schiavo (who the hell is Schiavo?)

7. Tommy Spears wins over Anthony Johnson (I predict this to be a KO)

There, that is what I want to see!

fufu · 03-29-2008, 11:23 AM

Strikeforce Cung Le v Frank Shamrock tonight.

My friend gets Showtime show I will be enjoying this card with a few beers.

Was a very solid card but Jake Shields and Nick Diaz were dropped...fuckin 'a!

Still, got Drew Fickett fighting, someone I always like to watch. He almost didn't make weight as well, what the hell is going on?

AKIRA · 03-29-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bigss75

From the sounds of it Tim "The Sloth" Sylvia is jumping ship from the UFC. His manager is part of M-1 but since it lost Fedor they dont have anything. Again the mma hws are a complete cluster. I wonder if tim leaves if they are gonna re-sign Arlovski/Crocop?

Eh good riddance.

Today while I was watching a tad of the TUF marathon, I was thinking about the possible need of doing a TUF show with HWs. Seriously, all the HWs you have are hit and misses. Might as well go out there and gather a shit load and make some money on them...but.....

bigss75 · 03-29-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

Eh good riddance.

Today while I was watching a tad of the TUF marathon, I was thinking about the possible need of doing a TUF show with HWs. Seriously, all the HWs you have are hit and misses. Might as well go out there and gather a shit load and make some money on them...but.....

Rothwell and Syliva both signed with Adrenaline MMA and has Monson for there first show.

Heavyweights are totally different then the 155-205 guys because there isnt many amazing big guys that have \conditioning or athletic ability.

Shane Carwin is a pretty legit HW in Ring of Fire that has a good future. He's a d2 wrestling champ with decent submission skills

bigss75 · 03-29-2008, 11:12 PM

Also awesome Frank Shamrock/ Cung Lee Fight.

03-05-2008, 06:44 AM	#1021
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03-05-2008, 09:16 AM	#1022
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03-05-2008, 01:44 PM	#1024
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,119 Photos: 3	Jesus christ. These PRIDE fighters are so fragile.
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03-06-2008, 06:41 AM	#1025
Richie1888 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,041	whos an availbale replacement i see jardine will be fighting silva thats interesting fight ( i sound like joe rogan )
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03-06-2008, 10:05 AM	#1026
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,480 Photos: 3	Rashad Evans now fighting Chuck at 85. Chuck by round 2 tko.
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03-06-2008, 10:43 AM	#1028
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,999 Photos: 1	how can you be on the fence with NOG? he beat sylvia, and no one in the heavyweight division will be able to beat him IMO. the only person in pride that could consistantly stop him was fedor
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03-06-2008, 04:18 PM	#1029
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,480 Photos: 3	I could see possibly Vera or Arlovski beating Nog. They would have to really push their stand up and open up. Nog is almost impossible to KO. If they can avoid the guard and keep it standing they may be able to win via a decision or tko.
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03-06-2008, 06:09 PM	#1030
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,119 Photos: 3	Yeah. Nog just didnt look impressive to me when faced against the Jumbo Jabber. He just doesnt have that aura about him the way Silva, GSP, and Fedor have. I wouldnt be surprised if his days on the throne wont last long.
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03-14-2008, 08:00 PM	#1032
steppin-up Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: australia Posts: 53 Photos: 12	it would be great to see him step back into the octogon indeed...although i feel the new breed of fighters will challenge him in a whole new league with their better than just well rounded skills....who would i like to see come back from the dead?....mark kerr.... the man was a vicious ground and pound specialist and definately fell out of the picture before his day was done.....bring back the smashing machine!!!!

03-15-2008, 10:49 AM	#1033
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,480 Photos: 3	Mark Kerr is done.....I liked him in is prime but he has no chance against any top 10 competetion.
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03-16-2008, 02:38 AM	#1034
steppin-up Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: australia Posts: 53 Photos: 12	so how about mark coleman ok so mark kerr is done, but still how do you think mark coleman will rate against the new heavywieght fighters,....i think people like andre arlovski fitness and skills would be too much for the old school techniques employed by mark coleman, but with that said i haven't seen him fight for a while since he has been in pride.......just out of interest.....albeit a while ago now....what's your view on gilbert yvel?....also its nice to have someone to chat to about these things....aint much happening in australia in this field....not like elvis sinosic put us in the spotlight...unless it was to point out...we don't know when to tap...lol

03-27-2008, 11:46 AM	#1035
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,480 Photos: 3	Anyone catch the WEC card last night? It was good.
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03-27-2008, 08:21 PM	#1038
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,480 Photos: 3	CSI...blech Next UFN is getting 3 hours of air. Don't miss those fights, got some great match ups. BTW, the WEC card was pretty damn good.
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03-27-2008, 08:32 PM	#1039
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	The WEC card was ok, nothing spectacular. The upcoming UFN looks great, I would actually purchase it if it were a PPV. Yvel is a one dimensional kickboxer who resorts to cheating when things aren't going his way. His ground game sucks and if he's on his backs he's done. Coleman got massacred by Fedor in his last fight but then again who wouldn't I think he might fare well against Brock until he gasses at the end of the first. Him and Kerr fighting in their primes would have been a good fight.
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03-29-2008, 12:39 AM	#1040
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,032	From the sounds of it Tim "The Sloth" Sylvia is jumping ship from the UFC. His manager is part of M-1 but since it lost Fedor they dont have anything. Again the mma hws are a complete cluster. I wonder if tim leaves if they are gonna re-sign Arlovski/Crocop?

03-29-2008, 11:23 AM	#1042
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,480 Photos: 3	Strikeforce Cung Le v Frank Shamrock tonight. My friend gets Showtime show I will be enjoying this card with a few beers. Was a very solid card but Jake Shields and Nick Diaz were dropped...fuckin 'a! Still, got Drew Fickett fighting, someone I always like to watch. He almost didn't make weight as well, what the hell is going on?
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03-29-2008, 11:12 PM	#1045
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,032	Also awesome Frank Shamrock/ Cung Lee Fight.

03-30-2008, 05:31 PM	#1046
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