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Old 04-27-2008, 11:19 AM   #1141
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After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?



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Old 04-27-2008, 11:39 AM   #1143
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After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?
Actually I think there's a whole heck of a lot more guys in the 155 "lightweight" and 205 "light-heavyweight" classes than the others. Right now 185 is popular but I think that's due to Anderson Silva being the champ and everyone and their mother wanting a crack at him. I love Anderson, I'd also love to fight him just so I could say I had my ass handed to me by Anderson Silva!



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After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?
I think it has to do with the average weight vs. the easiest weight to make. I would be a beast at 185lbs. I wouldnt doubt I am not the only one with that kind of attitude...

What Id like to see is a TUF show with nothing BUT heavyweights. That department seems to be the most lacking as far as being true to just the UFC and the constant bickering as to who is the best..

I mean, Couture was the last respectable HW champ. Everyone else seemed like a target waiting to be knocked down. However, you got GSP in WW, Silva in MW, both of them earned and deserved that title. Shit, even Rampage in LHW is a better champ than Liddell. (Here it comes)



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I think it has to do with the average weight vs. the easiest weight to make. I would be a beast at 185lbs. I wouldnt doubt I am not the only one with that kind of attitude...

What Id like to see is a TUF show with nothing BUT heavyweights. That department seems to be the most lacking as far as being true to just the UFC and the constant bickering as to who is the best..

I mean, Couture was the last respectable HW champ. Everyone else seemed like a target waiting to be knocked down. However, you got GSP in WW, Silva in MW, both of them earned and deserved that title. Shit, even Rampage in LHW is a better champ than Liddell. (Here it comes)
I agree...Rampage is a better champ. Liddell is straight up scared of Rampage...no way he will ever beat him. Rampage is a funny fucker too...
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After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?
What do you mean? The talent pool sucks in that division compared to LHW, WW and LW. The only division worse right now is the HW.

There aren't many main card MW showbusters.



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What do you mean? The talent pool sucks in that division compared to LHW, WW and LW. The only division worse right now is the HW.

There aren't many main card MW showbusters.
So many of the bouts in the last UFC shows, and a lot of the contenders on The Ultimate Fighter, seem to be in that weight category.



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I don't think there were any MW bouts in the last UFN.

There were alot in the last PPV card, but that doesn't mean anything. It is just the ebb and flow of match making.



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Take a look at the last UFN. 7/12 fights were LW's.

Nothing to pay attention to IMO.



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What do you mean? The talent pool sucks in that division compared to LHW, WW and LW. The only division worse right now is the HW.

There aren't many main card MW showbusters.
Yeah. However, I would tackle what is hurting me the most first and thats HW.



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They added Thiago Alves/Matt Hughes and Leben/Bisping for ufc 85
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Yeah. However, I would tackle what is hurting me the most first and thats HW.
I totally agree. I wonder if it's just that it's easier for the guys to cut 20 pounds and be a heavy light-heavyweight than fight at their normal weight. The heavyweight class is a pretty damn large class - I mean it covers 206 lbs to 265 lbs - 60 pounds. They should probably divide it up further and put a super-heavyweight division in ranging in weight from 236-265 pounds. I'm willing to bet most of the guys fall somewhere very close to 220 pounds and find it much easier to cut 14 pounds to light-heavy and be some of the heavier light-heavyweights out there.

I weigh 277 pounds and am currently a super-heavyweight, I would love to cut down to 265 and fight eventually as a very heavy heavyweight - I would own all of them since I'd probably be about 40 pounds heavier. That's a nice weight gap in my favor.



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brock lesner thought the same with his weight, owning the heavy weights just cause your big
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brock lesner thought the same with his weight, owning the heavy weights just cause your big
Yeah, but that was what his first match in the UFC (2nd MMA fight total). And I thought he did very well against a more seasoned opponent - If Frank didn't win it would've all looked like it was fixed. I love Frank, but I still think Brock is going to, thankfully, terrorize that entire division the way Gonzaga should've (he was the real disappointment).

Either way a 60 pound weight range is just crazy, I don't blame people for not wanting to sign up for that and face the possibility of going up against someone potentially 50-60 pounds heavier than them. I say split the division and add super-heavyweight.



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tallcall you are absolutly right!! but i think lesner will be a let down, 170 lb wrestler choked him out and he never went back to that training camp. givin it was matt hughes that chocked him out, but they were rolling you would figure since he is supposedly a great wrestler he would have held his own, but the word around is he is weak minded so i do not think he will go very far. but i will say for a guy his size he is QUICK!!!! he has all the tools, he just needs to sharpen them and use them!!!
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