MMA News and Notes

AKIRA · 06-08-2008, 12:22 AM

Good thing you didnt, I passed your post.

Vera's fight was top notch...for a while. Though it was an early stoppage, Werdum had a legitimate position. God damn, he shouldve let it go to another round.

Poor Lambert. He was doing so good... Aw well. He made me laugh, along with the rest of the bar, when he grabbed Herb.

Marquot(sp?) was kinda predictable after the violations. Honestly, the bad hits made the fight interesting to me.

Swick was fantastic. Repro was right. This fight was pretty good. Actually.....I dont remember Davis doing too much.

Bisbing was good. I kinda like him. Yeah, I said it. However, I am not familiar with Jason Day. At all. So is this another "give me?"

Hughes.......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Chalk up another loss there big boy! Thats what you get for coming out to that stupid fucking song.

However I agree with him, he does need to fight Serra.

Oh and whats with the English? There were boos, chants, and a

wave?

AKIRA · 06-08-2008, 12:25 AM

Oh! As I was reading my post about Lambert (I meant, he was doing good with his last fights) I remembered something...

Did any of you guys see this at a bar? Was it empty? HOOTERS was terrible. There was maybe 10 people at the bar with about 20 empty seats, along with some random empty tables.

DOMS · 06-08-2008, 08:12 PM

The ref of the Vera/Werdum fight sucked ass. He was too quick to pull the fighters apart. When Vera was down and there was only 15 seconds left, I thought, "Just stay down and wait it out!", which is what Vera said he was doing, and that dumb ass ref stopped it.

In the Nate/Thales fight, the first round was gold. Very enjoyable. Nate's recovery from that right was incredible. However, I was pissed that Nate didn't apologize for the illegal knee in the second round. Talis did a great job and showed a lot of spirit. A freakin' pile-driver! Great! The ending kinda of sucked. I don't think that second deduction was valid.

Bisbig is the most energetic fighter that I've seen during the walk-in. If he didn't get a chance to work it off in the octagon, I think he wouldn't have exploded.

Matt Hughes sucked ass. All he would do is dive for the knees. He wouldn't do anything else. He deserved to lose.

As a general note, it's nuts just how much the Brits like to boo.

Edit: I see that AKIRA thinks so, too.

DOMS · 06-08-2008, 08:26 PM

Oh, and that Matt/Tiago fight was great! The first round had some great floor action and the second was a brutal stand up. I also like how Matt just shrugged off that big right. I think it was the third best fight of the night.

bigss75 · 06-08-2008, 11:43 PM

I was glad to see Swick beat Davis, they have been feeding Davis cans

AKIRA · 06-08-2008, 11:57 PM

Yeah it ended up being a pretty good fight night.

**IainDaniel** · 06-09-2008, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fufu

Alves weighing in at 174 lbs...how unprofessional.

Thiago was huge. I don't think he would ever make it down to the 170 weight class the way he was looking. Injury or not.

fufu · 06-09-2008, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Thiago was huge. I don't think he would ever make it down to the 170 weight class the way he was looking. Injury or not.

injury is all bullshit, he is a professional athlete. he can get on the rower and sit in the sauna.

He got caught using direuretics a couple fights ago and was fined 5k and suspended 8 months.

AKIRA · 06-09-2008, 11:17 AM

I hope his weight isnt going to be an excuse for his win.

**IainDaniel** · 06-09-2008, 11:34 AM

Could it be sure. The way Thiago looked, he would never be able to cut down to 170 without assistance.

But Matt hughes isn't that great of a fighter IMO.

AKIRA · 06-09-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOMS

Oh, and that Matt/Tiago fight was great! The first round had some great floor action and the second was a brutal stand up. I also like how Matt just shrugged off that big right. I think it was the third best fight of the night.

Mr Hughes seems to always have great fights. Especially when he loses.

Damn, when was the last time he went to a decision? Machida should take a page from his book.

fufu · 06-09-2008, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I hope his weight isnt going to be an excuse for his win.

I don't think it was a big factor, but I think it was somewhat important.

Cutting weight is tough. 3 lbs left (with the 1 pound over allowence) is the toughest part to cut. If he really cut as much weight as he could have he doesn't belong in that weight class.

That is all speculation though. Maybe he is just irresponsible and lazy with cutting weight.

fufu · 06-09-2008, 03:28 PM

Let's move onto the next PPV, Forrest vs. Rampage.

The main card for this looks great. 87 looks just as good as well.

Nate K · 06-09-2008, 04:17 PM

I think Rampage will win.

AKIRA · 06-09-2008, 07:32 PM

Ditto, but last time I thought Forrest would lose, he won. Can lightning strike twice?

Oh and for UFC 87, sherdog has Brock Lesnar fighting Mark Coleman....?

Goodfella9783 · 06-09-2008, 07:51 PM

Don't know how true this is:

HUGE EXCLUSIVE: Floyd Mayweather Signs With UFC&

AKIRA · 06-10-2008, 09:19 AM

RUH ROH

Quote:

"Big" John McCarthy will propose legalizing knees to the head of a grounded opponent when the Association of Boxing Commissions meets for its annual convention July 2-5 in Montreal. McCarthy, who retired from officiating in December, made the revelation during Sherdog.com's Beatdown radio show on Monday.

"It's a good technique," said McCarthy, who refereed 535 matches during his 15-year career. "It's a very effective tool, and it opens fights up."

The most recognized referee in the game has met privately with ABC representatives in the last few months to discuss amendments to the sport's Unified Rules of Combat. The ABC will unveil their efforts at its annual gathering, where its membership of nearly 80 state and tribal athletic commissions throughout North America will review them.

McCarthy, ABC to Review ‘Grounded Knees’

fufu · 06-10-2008, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Ditto, but last time I thought Forrest would lose, he won. Can lightning strike twice?

Oh and for UFC 87, sherdog has Brock Lesnar fighting Mark Coleman....?

Coleman got injured so Brock is now fighting Heath Herring.

fufu · 06-10-2008, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

RUH ROH

McCarthy, ABC to Review ?Grounded Knees?

I totally agree they should be legal. McCarthy is the man and I hope he pulls it through.

AKIRA · 06-10-2008, 12:12 PM

I am discussing this in another forum. If its approved Id be all for it, but I fear they will say this is now a SPORT and not a slug fest. Too much brutality will be their angle, if theres resistance. I mean, hah, elbows AND knees on the ground now?!

Oh...during the TUF show, I remember hearing that upward kicks from the ground are illegal... They are? Also, was Nate's piledriver at the end of the fight in UFC 85 illegal too?

fufu · 06-10-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I am discussing this in another forum. If its approved Id be all for it, but I fear they will say this is now a SPORT and not a slug fest. Too much brutality will be their angle, if theres resistance. I mean, hah, elbows AND knees on the ground now?!

Oh...during the TUF show, I remember hearing that upward kicks from the ground are illegal... They are? Also, was Nate's piledriver at the end of the fight in UFC 85 illegal too?

Upkicks from the ground are illegal if your opponent is on the ground as well. If he is standing it is fine, just like kicking to head is fine when both are standing.

Cyclin · 06-11-2008, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

But Matt hughes isn't that great of a fighter IMO.

Matt Hughes isn't that great of a fighter?

He beat GSP, Sherk, and BJ Penn, Carlos Newton, & Sakurai,

Who is a great WW in your opinion? Nevermind I don't care.

tallcall · 06-11-2008, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclin

Matt Hughes isn't that great of a fighter?

He beat GSP, Sherk, and BJ Penn, Carlos Newton, & Sakurai,

Who is a great WW in your opinion? Nevermind I don't care.

He probably means that Matt is currently not a great fighter because he has not beaten any of his opponents in his last couple of fights. He was a great fighter and is a great teacher, but it seems like it is time for him to retire from fighting.

AKIRA · 06-11-2008, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclin

Matt Hughes isn't that great of a fighter?

He beat GSP, Sherk, and BJ Penn, Carlos Newton, & Sakurai,

Who is a great WW in your opinion? Nevermind I don't care.

What youre describing is someone from the past. Everyone that hasnt evolved has started to suck. Couture being the only exception, all of them are usually older fighters.

There really is something about the saying "you can teach an old dog new tricks."

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallcall

He was a great fighter and is a great teacher, but it seems like it is time for him to retire from fighting.

Really? How many fighters lost on his team on the last TUF? Consecutively? He was a terrible teacher. Not only that, he didnt fucking care about them. A double whammy of shit.

You never know though. The dumb hick could retire, then do some research on what fighters are doing to win, then come back. Thats what Couture did.

Richie1888 · 06-13-2008, 07:59 AM

who do you guys think will do the damage between fedor and tim on the 19th ?

AKIRA · 06-13-2008, 09:55 AM

My friend believes that "if Tim brings his A game" hell win.

Tim can play a smart game I suppose. But...him? Smart?

Richie1888 · 06-13-2008, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

My friend believes that "if Tim brings his A game" hell win.

Tim can play a smart game I suppose. But...him? Smart?

i never realised how big the guy is he towers over fedor

but it doesnt mater how big he is hes one arm bar away from a tap

Nate K · 06-18-2008, 08:59 AM

Is Brock Lesnar good? Has he beaten anyone?

**IainDaniel** · 06-18-2008, 09:21 AM

Rumour has it that Anderson Silva will be fighting a light heavyweight on a fight night. James Irvin.

fufu · 06-18-2008, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate K

Is Brock Lesnar good? Has he beaten anyone?

He beat a mediocre Korean fighter I believe, that is it. Noone knows what he is cabable of. He is 1-1.

Can't say he is good or bad at this point.

06-08-2008, 12:22 AM	#1231
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Good thing you didnt, I passed your post. Vera's fight was top notch...for a while. Though it was an early stoppage, Werdum had a legitimate position. God damn, he shouldve let it go to another round. Poor Lambert. He was doing so good... Aw well. He made me laugh, along with the rest of the bar, when he grabbed Herb. Marquot(sp?) was kinda predictable after the violations. Honestly, the bad hits made the fight interesting to me. Swick was fantastic. Repro was right. This fight was pretty good. Actually.....I dont remember Davis doing too much. Bisbing was good. I kinda like him. Yeah, I said it. However, I am not familiar with Jason Day. At all. So is this another "give me?" Hughes.......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Chalk up another loss there big boy! Thats what you get for coming out to that stupid fucking song. However I agree with him, he does need to fight Serra. Oh and whats with the English? There were boos, chants, and a wave? 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

06-08-2008, 12:25 AM	#1232
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Oh! As I was reading my post about Lambert (I meant, he was doing good with his last fights) I remembered something... Did any of you guys see this at a bar? Was it empty? HOOTERS was terrible. There was maybe 10 people at the bar with about 20 empty seats, along with some random empty tables. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

06-08-2008, 11:57 PM	#1236
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Yeah it ended up being a pretty good fight night. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

06-09-2008, 11:17 AM	#1239
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	I hope his weight isnt going to be an excuse for his win. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

06-09-2008, 11:34 AM	#1240
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	Could it be sure. The way Thiago looked, he would never be able to cut down to 170 without assistance. But Matt hughes isn't that great of a fighter IMO. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

06-08-2008, 08:12 PM	#1233
DOMS Metrosexual Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 22,092 Photos: 1	The ref of the Vera/Werdum fight sucked ass. He was too quick to pull the fighters apart. When Vera was down and there was only 15 seconds left, I thought, "Just stay down and wait it out!", which is what Vera said he was doing, and that dumb ass ref stopped it. In the Nate/Thales fight, the first round was gold. Very enjoyable. Nate's recovery from that right was incredible. However, I was pissed that Nate didn't apologize for the illegal knee in the second round. Talis did a great job and showed a lot of spirit. A freakin' pile-driver! Great! The ending kinda of sucked. I don't think that second deduction was valid. Bisbig is the most energetic fighter that I've seen during the walk-in. If he didn't get a chance to work it off in the octagon, I think he wouldn't have exploded. Matt Hughes sucked ass. All he would do is dive for the knees. He wouldn't do anything else. He deserved to lose. As a general note, it's nuts just how much the Brits like to boo. Edit: I see that AKIRA thinks so, too.

06-08-2008, 08:26 PM	#1234
DOMS Metrosexual Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 22,092 Photos: 1	Oh, and that Matt/Tiago fight was great! The first round had some great floor action and the second was a brutal stand up. I also like how Matt just shrugged off that big right. I think it was the third best fight of the night.

06-08-2008, 11:43 PM	#1235
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,125	I was glad to see Swick beat Davis, they have been feeding Davis cans

06-09-2008, 03:28 PM	#1243
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	Let's move onto the next PPV, Forrest vs. Rampage. The main card for this looks great. 87 looks just as good as well. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

06-09-2008, 04:17 PM	#1244
Nate K Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,739 Photos: 3	I think Rampage will win.

06-09-2008, 07:32 PM	#1245
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Ditto, but last time I thought Forrest would lose, he won. Can lightning strike twice? Oh and for UFC 87, sherdog has Brock Lesnar fighting Mark Coleman....? 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

06-09-2008, 07:51 PM	#1246
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,226	Don't know how true this is: HUGE EXCLUSIVE: Floyd Mayweather Signs With UFC&

06-10-2008, 12:12 PM	#1250
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	I am discussing this in another forum. If its approved Id be all for it, but I fear they will say this is now a SPORT and not a slug fest. Too much brutality will be their angle, if theres resistance. I mean, hah, elbows AND knees on the ground now?! Oh...during the TUF show, I remember hearing that upward kicks from the ground are illegal... They are? Also, was Nate's piledriver at the end of the fight in UFC 85 illegal too? 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

06-13-2008, 07:59 AM	#1255
Richie1888 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,235	who do you guys think will do the damage between fedor and tim on the 19th ? When you play for Celtic forget the Jersey forget the club, your playing for a people and a cause.

06-13-2008, 09:55 AM	#1256
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	My friend believes that "if Tim brings his A game" hell win. Tim can play a smart game I suppose. But...him? Smart? 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

06-18-2008, 08:59 AM	#1258
Nate K Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,739 Photos: 3	Is Brock Lesnar good? Has he beaten anyone?

06-18-2008, 09:21 AM	#1259
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	Rumour has it that Anderson Silva will be fighting a light heavyweight on a fight night. James Irvin. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

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