fufu

Was a great night of fights. Those judo throws of Miura were amazing.

However, I think he is like 10-4 and he gave Condit a run for his money. They need to stop padding their champs.

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Richie1888

what does everyone think will happen at the weekend in the big 3 fights

something tell me it will go

gsp
lessnar
huerta

but ill be rooting for

fitch
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florian

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UFC 87: Seek and Destroy

Date: Aug 09, 2008

Location: Minneapolis, Minn.
Venue: Target Center
Broadcast: Pay Per View

MAIN CARD

• Champ Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch (for welterweight title)
• Brock Lesnar vs. Heath Herring
• Kenny Florian vs. Roger Huerta
• Rob Emerson vs. Manny Gamburyan
• Jason MacDonald vs. Demian Maia

PRELIMINARY CARD

• Luke Cummo vs. Tamdan McCrory
• Dan Evensen vs. Cheick Kongo
• Jon Jones vs. Andre Gusmao
• Steve Bruno vs. Chris Wilson
• Ben Saunders vs. Ryan Thomas
  

My picks in bold.

Goodfella9783

Champ Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch(for welterweight title)
Brock Lesnar vs. Heath Herring
Kenny Florian vs. Roger Huerta
Rob Emerson vs. Manny Gamburyan
Jason MacDonald vs. Demian Maia

I've been suckin it up bad at mmaplayground btw.

ReproMan

I'm 2 time defending camp champ.

fufu

my last card's picks were awful. I think I was 3/10 or something. That really fucked up my score.

What a great way to start the new season.

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ReproMan

Speaking of MMAPlayground, where's BC? He still hasn't joined the new camp.

ReproMan

Should be a pretty good card, especially with the LW grand prix. Rodrigo Damm is on a tear @ 8-1 with a recent win over Jorge Masvidal and Ryan Schultz is the IFL LW champ and on a 6 fight win streak with one of those wins being a TKO victory over Chris Hordecki. Clay French is 14-2 with a win over TUF champ Mac Danzig that kicked off an 8 fight win streak.

Don't know much about the Japanese fighters but Gomi is back in action vs. the DEEP organization's LW champion, so the fight should at least be competitive.

BoneCrusher

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BoneCrusher

MAIN CARD

• Champ Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch (for welterweight title)
• Brock Lesnar vs. Heath Herring (I bet on Hearing, but think Lesnar has the edge)
  
• Kenny Florian vs. Roger Huerta

Fitch is a bad lil sumbitch. I just see GSP on high ground right now

I never win when I bet against Huerta. So I bet big on him now. Someone chain Murphy up in the basement.

Who's gonna show up the the Lesnar Hearing fight? The fit trained Hearing or the fat lazy Hearing that gases almost as fast as Tank? The fit Hearing that fought in Pride will fuck Lesnar up. If he is the Lazy Hearing that only runs when he sits on the toilet after a night of heavy drinking, then Lesnar will twist him off like a bottle cap. I'm really thinking this is just another White stacker match set up to pad Lesnar up a bit for the bigger draw and the fatter money in the near future, but the money is close so I'm betting Hearing. It'll give me something to get all excited over, and then to bitch about afterwards. I like that part.

ReproMan

Herring looked to be in good shape at the weigh-ins, but I don't think he'll have much for Brock.

AKIRA

Those are more or less my picks and thoughts.

I really dont know much about Hearing, but from what Ive seen, hes not something Id route for. So I pick Lesnar. However, whomever loses, I dont want to see them as a headline again.

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Kenny is gonna embarrass Huerta. His luck runs out here.

BoneCrusher

Ehhh ... should I change my bet? I been gone and outta the loop so now I feel ... unsure.

fufu

I picked but Huerta but I think Florian should win on paper.

Probably as technical on the ground as Alberto Crane, but much better on the feet and a better mental/confidence game. Probably as mentally strong as Guida but far more technical.

Huerta has shown good submission defense, gonna be a good fight.

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AKIRA

He did good against Guida.

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Florian vs. Huerta will in my opinion be fight of the night and candidate for fight of the year. Winner should automatically get a shot at BJ. I honestly think Kenny can sub Huerta and will also be able to defen agaist Huerta's somewhat wild stand up.

ReproMan

No he didn't, that's the luck I was talking about. He was getting his ass kicked until he caught Guida with a knee in the 3rd round. Huerta lost every second of that fight including almost being KO'd at the end of the second. It was his trademark desperate flailing that caught Guida with that knee and that was the end of Guida's night.

I don't think this will be FOTN at all. Kenny is faster, his BJJ is much better, his striking is more crisp, he's more intelligent, and he's more composed in dangerous situations. Huerta has the heart advantage, that's all. I honestly think this will be over quickly with Kenny winning by RNC.

ReproMan

Eeek, I missed that before. I don't think Roger is a good bet at all. The line started pretty even, I bet on Kenny @ -145 and he's @ -170 now over at Bodog. Apparently I'm not the only one that's thinking this way.

Goodfella9783

Jeez that was some beatdown. Fitch has got a nice chin and a lot of heart but shitty standup. Time to get with that boxing coach.

If GSP fights like he did tonight he beats BJ @ 170 imo. I also ask myself how well GSP would fare moving up to face Anderson Silva.

Also, wtf was Dana White thinking throwing that dude in with Kongo? Viking boy fuck Dana White's wife or something? I thought that was going to end a lot worse.

The Monkey Man

No F#$kin way JSP beats BJ... Penn is too natural...
Hes calm, controlled, and smooth like Fedor... (a living machine)

Whats up w/ brock lesner and that display of bad sportsmanship???

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ReproMan

I agree with ya, an in shape BJ beats GSP.

The Monkey Man

No comments about LES-NAR "ropin the wind"??

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ReproMan

When Lesnar grabbed the mic from Rogan I was thinking Brock was about to say "Listen here Mean Gene!!" He was a little cocky in that celebration.

Goodfella9783

Well he already did a couple years back. BJ Penn will have a tough time taking GSP down as St. Pierre has some of the best sprawl in the game and the ability to get back up once he's down. It will be a standup war like it was in 2006 and this time GSP's polished striking will be the difference.

fufu

That was the most exciting 5 rounder I have watched. I think GSP knocked Fitch down hard every round. Props to Fitch, that guy is tough as nails.

Fitch had nothing for GSP. Let's see GSP v. BJ!

Lesnar is a shitty sportsman and showed his immaturity in the sport. Let's leave those WWE antics out of MMA. Good win for him, though.

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oh yeah, we can finally stop hearing Florian spouting his "I'm a finisher" speeches.

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AKIRA

I was thinking the exact same thing. Fuck BJ. Silva would be more of a trophy win.

Yeah, I thought Brock's sportsmanship was lousy but it was entertaining. I guess.

The main event was pretty exciting, in fact, I thought it was an exciting night altogether. In all honesty, I always want a good fight regardless of picks. With the exception of the Huerta Florian fight, I loved all the others.

Huerta was just terrible.

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I thought Huerta was pretty good. He can hang in there with the better LW's but I don't see him beating any of them. Huerta is too uncalculated and predictable in his striking. He can make for an exciting fight, though.

Also, that MacDonald Maia fight was like a fucking submission grappling match. That was a great showing of ground work.

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ReproMan

Gonna disagree with ya here. That was back when BJ didn't think it was necessary to train for fights, and it was still the closest match of GSP's career. The main differences between Fitch and BJ is BJ's polished striking, his takedown defense, and BJ's chin. Plus BJ will offer more of a challenge to GSP off of his back. BJ fought Lyoto Machida @ 205lbs and lost a close decision, that in itself if amazing. No way GSP can rock BJ with anything, and I'm pretty sure BJ has heavier hands than Fitch too. I'd take BJ all day.

Anderson Silva would beat GSP too. No doubt.

I thought the Maia vs MacDonald fight was unbelievable, my candidate for FotN after the main event. Major props to MacDonald for just jumping right down on the ground with a multiple time BJJ World Champ. That made the fight. Overall that was a great night of fights.