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Old 09-24-2008, 05:45 PM   #1681
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Damn it, I want Barnett and Arlovski! It just makes so much sense... we had three top-10 HW's all put on great performances in the same event. Get them together while they are hot.



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Oh that's probably still going to happen in January. Barnett will be fighting on the next Sengoku card for his own tune-up.



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Brock Lesnar injured, forced to pull out of UFC 91

The match which was billed as the biggest in UFC history is in tatters today after rising star, Brock Lesnar, was forced to pull out of the fight due to injury.

Sustained during training, Lesnar has pulled his hamstring and will be unable to compete on November 15th against heavyweight champion Randy Couture, in what was the biggest fight of his young career.

Although not yet announced by UFC.com, the promotion will now be looking to fill the sizeable void created by this terrible news. One possibility is to pull the “Rampage” vs Silva fight back onto the November card if both fighters were willing.

The Minneapolis gym, at which Lesnar trains were unavailable for comment as I wrote this news, but every effort will be made to reach them during the course of the day.

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The rumor has already been dispelled. Apparently it was a prank.

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…on Thursday, Kim Couture rang about another crazy rumor that was going around. Someone, doing his best Lorenzo Fertitta impersonation, called the Xtreme Couture gym in Las Vegas. People inside Xtreme Couture scrambled when the fake Fertitta claimed Lesnar was injured, and the Nov. 15 fight was off. The rumor, however, was quickly quashed after confirming Lesnar, all 280 pounds of him, was fine.



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The rumor has already been dispelled. Apparently it was a prank.
ye just come back online and heard



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The evening's full results were:
  • Alexandre "Xande" Ribeiro def. Takashi Sugiura via TKO (strikes) -- Round 3, 4:18
  • Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal def. Travis Wiuff via TKO (punches) -- Round 1, 2:11
  • Yuki Sasaki def. Yuki Kondo def. via submission (rear naked choke) -- Round 2, 1:08*
  • Kazuhiro Nakamura def. Paul Cahoon via unanimous decision*
  • Jorge Santiago def. Logan Clark via submission (arm triangle choke) -- Round 2, 3:55
  • Siyar Bahadurzada def. Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos via TKO (injury) -- Round 1, 0:22*
  • Kiuma Kunioku def. A Sol Kwon via decision (unanimous)
  • Jorge Masvidal def. Ryan Schultz via TKO (punches) -- Round 1 1:57



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Man, Nakamura is one of those tough guys but he never seems to go anywhere. Congrats for him on the win but he is always going to decisions.



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It seems like he only performs to the level of his competition too. He's competitive with everyone he gets in the ring with and he's faced some real big names.



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The Top 10 Myths About Fedor Emelianenko | Bleacher Report

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A bunch of those are kinda inaccurate though.

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Myth No. 3
Fedor is afraid of the UFC's rules.
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Fedor fought under UFC rules and won.
Proof
Fedor has already fought under UFC rules in USA (vs. Tim Sylvia). He did just fine.
He never had a chance to put the rules in effect. It was a 36 second fight. I'd like to see what happens the first time he gets put on his back and takes a few elbows.

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Fedor fights cans (weak fighters).
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Fedor has fought more top-10 ranked fighters than anyone except Nogueira.
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Guys that you don't know, and you see them on Fedor's record are his early fights, where he had to prove himself. He was unknown also, remember that! If you look at the record of any other top fighter, you will find cans on their records as well.
Some cans you see on Fedor's record EARNED the right to face him. Example: Ogawa was not chosen by Fedor to beat up on. Ogawa won his previous Pride 2004 GP fights and EARNED the right to face Fedor. There was nothing Fedor could have done about that.
Some cans you see on Fedor's record were not cans at the time of their fights with Fedor. Examples: That same Ogawa, besides being a four-time World Judo Champion and Olympic medalist, was bringing a 7-0 record to the Fedor fight.
Schilt went 1-1 vs. UFC's best in UFC. Coleman was ranked in the top-three at the time of their first fight, etc.
Nogueira was the No. 1 fighter in the entire MMA world at the time of his first fight with Fedor. Cro Cop was ranked No. 2 in the world for his title fight with Fedor. Herring was No. 3 back when he faced Fedor. Nogueira was No. 2 for his second fight with Fedor. Tim was No. 4, and Hunt was No. 9.
This is a huge stretch. Back then the PRIDE mystique ruled the rankings world, fighters were ranked much higher than they deserved. Hunt is a perfect example. Nog and Tim are the only legitimate contenders he's ever faced.

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Fedor can't finish any top fighter.
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Fedor finished three top fighters.
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Tim Sylvia was ranked No. 4 in the world at the time of his fight with Fedor. Hunt was ranked No. 7, or No. 9 in the world, (depending on what rankings you look at). Coleman was in the top-three for their first fight (having only lost to Nog and nobody else) Fedor finished all three men in the first round.
Yet another huge stretch. If beating up on fighters that are extremely one dimensional is something to brag about, then by all means have at it. Hunt is a kickboxer and had Fedor side mounted with a hammerlock applied for most of the round. Had that been someone like Barnett, we might not be having this conversation.

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Fedor has sloppy striking.
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Fedor has the best striking in MMA.
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How many fighters can you name (aside from Fedor) that have never been dropped, even to one knee, by any strike?
(Don't worry, I'll wait)
His defense in striking is astounding, as the above example shows. (Two other great strikers, B.J. Penn and Anderson Silva, may make a similar claim. Props to them.)
The "loopy" "sloppy" boxing you see from Fedor is the product of different technique used in MMA due to smaller gloves, wider stance, and different weight distribution (in order to defend or prepare/set-up takedowns). Fedor's "loopy" punches curve AROUND the small blocking MMA gloves, and hit their target anyways.
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See fight with Goodridge: Gary puts up a standard boxing block with both hands, but unfortunately for him the gloves are not big enough to cover an area big enough, and Fedor's "loopy" shots hit Gary on the ear, temple and neck.
Another example:
See Tim Sylvia fight. Tim is prepared for Fedor's lightning-fast left hook. Tim is keeping his right hand as high as you'll ever see anyone do it. Fedor leaps in with that left hook again and... horror or horrors!!! The hook lands DESPITE Tim's hand being in the way. Fedor's small glove sneaks thru right next to Tim's small glove and Tim gets hurt. (The above explanations are from Fedor himself, who has elaborated on this topic during a recent master class which you can also see on youtube, but in Russian of course)
Boxing Champion Zab Judah was in attendance at Fedor's latest fight. He looked at Fedor's stand-up with awe and respect. Take Judah's word for it guys, he knows this stuff better than you and I.
Fedor does indeed have sloppy striking. How else does one break their wrist inside 30 seconds of a fight if they are striking properly? Brute strenght and crazy KO power, but horrid techinique. Matt Lindland took full advantage of Fedor's sloppy striking by getting inside the wide looping punches, establishing a body clinch and if it wasn't for Fedor grabbing the ropes, Lindland secures a picture-perfect takedown. All that from a natural middleweight.

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Fedor is overrated.
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Fedor is UNDERrated.
I don't think he's either. The concensus is he's amongst the top 3 P4P fighters in the world and I'd agree.

Bottom line is, we're not calling the Patriots the best team in football this year beacause they won the Super Bowl a few years ago. Sports are all about "what have you done for me lately" and Fedor hasn't done a ton. I still agree he's probably the best heavyweight out there, but he hasn't been tested nearly enough. Though I'll be completely convinced if he can knock off Arlovski and/or Barnett.



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A bunch of those are kinda inaccurate though.

He never had a chance to put the rules in effect. It was a 36 second fight. I'd like to see what happens the first time he gets put on his back and takes a few elbows.

This is a huge stretch. Back then the PRIDE mystique ruled the rankings world, fighters were ranked much higher than they deserved. Hunt is a perfect example. Nog and Tim are the only legitimate contenders he's ever faced.

Yet another huge stretch. If beating up on fighters that are extremely one dimensional is something to brag about, then by all means have at it. Hunt is a kickboxer and had Fedor side mounted with a hammerlock applied for most of the round. Had that been someone like Barnett, we might not be having this conversation.

Fedor does indeed have sloppy striking. How else does one break their wrist inside 30 seconds of a fight if they are striking properly? Brute strenght and crazy KO power, but horrid techinique. Matt Lindland took full advantage of Fedor's sloppy striking by getting inside the wide looping punches, establishing a body clinch and if it wasn't for Fedor grabbing the ropes, Lindland secures a picture-perfect takedown. All that from a natural middleweight.

I don't think he's either. The concensus is he's amongst the top 3 P4P fighters in the world and I'd agree.

Bottom line is, we're not calling the Patriots the best team in football this year beacause they won the Super Bowl a few years ago. Sports are all about "what have you done for me lately" and Fedor hasn't done a ton. I still agree he's probably the best heavyweight out there, but he hasn't been tested nearly enough. Though I'll be completely convinced if he can knock off Arlovski and/or Barnett.
nice post i found ur answers as interesting as the article

but damm it, its not football lol its hand ball with the odd bit of kicking



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Fedor has sloppy striking.
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Fedor has the best striking in MMA.
Wow! Who wrote that article?

Anderson Silva, GSP, Nick Diaz right off the top of my head are much better strikers.
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Anthony Pole

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hendo franklin will be good



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by Dann Stupp on Oct 01, 2008 at 9:10 am ET
The Ultimate Fighting Championship will head to Dublin, Ireland, for the first time in the organization's history for a Jan. 17 pay-per-view event at The O2.

As MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) first reported on Tuesday, the event features a headline bout of former UFC middleweight champion Rich Franklin (24-3 MMA, 11-2 UFC) vs. former PRIDE title-holder Dan Henderson (23-7 MMA, 3-2 UFC).

Additionally, the organization announced UFC hall-of-famer Mark Coleman (15-8 MMA, 6-3 UFC) will meet former PRIDE stand-out Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (16-3 MMA, 0-1 UFC) in a long-awaited rematch.

The Franklin-Henderson fight will take place at 205 pounds.

"Rich Franklin vs. Dan Henderson is a battle between two great former champions who are both looking to get another chance to wear a world title around their waist," UFC President Dana White stated in a press release. "These are two fan favorites with a lot of pride on the line as they want to show that they are still among the very best fighters in the world."

Franklin recently took his first light-heavyweight fight in more than three years and defeated Matt Hamill via third-round TKO at UFC 88. Aside from two losses to current middleweight champ Anderson Silva, Franklin has won his past 12 fights -- all but two via stoppage.

Henderson, meanwhile, picked up his first UFC victory in more than 10 years with a unanimous-decision victory over Rousimar Palhares earlier this month at UFC 88. Prior to the loss, Henderson arrived from PRIDE and suffered championship losses to then-UFC light heavyweight champ Quinton Jackson at UFC 75 and Silva at UFC 82

"Dan Henderson has great credentials, and he is going to be one of the toughest fights of my career," Franklin stated. "That being said, I'm planning on winning the fight, and I'm looking forward to fighting in the main event and fighting in Ireland. I love the fans, and the way they react by singing and chanting makes it a unique experience for me."

Coleman, meanwhile, will return to the octagon for the first time in more than nine years. After his induction into the UFC Hall of Fame earlier this year, Coleman announced he had signed a multi-fight deal with the UFC so he could return to competition. He was slated to fight Brock Lesnar in August at UFC 87 but was forced to pull out of the event with an injury.

In February 2006 Coleman defeated Rua at PRIDE 31; Rua suffered a broken arm in the fight, and the bout was halted after just 49 seconds. Rumors of the possible rematch first surfaced over the summer. At the time, Coleman told MMAjunkie.com that he wasn't opposed to the fight -- but that it wasn't necessarily his first choice either.

"I've never picked my opponents since the beginning," Coleman said. "I don't go around picking my opponents. I let the promoter do that. Whoever the promoter picks, that's obviously who the fans want to see.

"If [a fight with Rua] is something that interests the fans, if that's something that the UFC wants to make happen, I don't go around turning down fights. 'Shogun' is fine."

Rua will also return from recent injury. The Brazilian went under the knife after he made his UFC debut against Forrest Griffin in September 2007 and suffered an upset submission loss.

Tickets for the event will go on sale shortly.
Also if anyone lives in the West Palm Beach area, Dan Henderson will be doing a meet and greet @ the Gardens Mall @ Nordstroms from 1-3PM. UFC cutman "Stitch" will be there too.

Pretty interesting that the Hendo vs. Franklin fight will be @ 205. You would think they'd try to setup Silva vs. Hendo 2.

I couldn't care less about Coleman vs. Shogun 2, but there is bad blood there so it could make for a good fight.



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Wow! Who wrote that article?

Anderson Silva, GSP, Nick Diaz right off the top of my head are much better strikers.
Yeah I didn't think anyone's balls could withstand that much swinging from, but hey, it is Fedor we're talking about.



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i love rua, and even though he is fighting coleman(washup) i want to see him fight again



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i love rua, and even though he is fighting coleman(washup) i want to see him fight again
He's gonna come guns-a-blazin too since he owes Coleman an ass whoopin. I can't see it going past the first round.



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Me too actually.



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Strikeforce: Payback

Date: Oct 03, 2008

Location: Broomfield, Colo.
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TV: HDNet
  • Duane "Bang" Ludwig vs. Sammy Morgan
  • Frank Trigg vs. Falaniko Vitale
  • Pete Spratt vs. Donnie Liles
  • Phil Baroni vs. TBA
  • Luke Caudillo vs. Billy Evangelista
  • Patrick Barry vs. Andre Walker
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Date: Oct 04, 2008

Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Venue: BankAtlantic Center
Broadcast: CBS

MAIN CARD (CBS)
  • Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson vs. Ken Shamrock
  • Champ Jake Shields vs. Paul Daley (for EliteXC welterweight title)
  • Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson
  • Gina Carano vs. Kelly Kobold-Gavin
  • Benji Radach vs. Murilo "Ninja" Rua
PRELIMINARY CARD
  • Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos vs. Yoko Takahashi (could appear on CBS, time-permitting)
  • Edson Berto vs. Connor Heun
  • Seth Petruzelli vs. Aaron Rosa
  • Lorenzo Borgomeo vs. Mikey Gomez
  • David Gomez vs. Brett Jackowski
  • Jorge Bouchat vs. Nicolae Cury
Pretty excited about Affliction and EliteXC coming to terms and putting the Arlovski/Nelson fight on this card.



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By: James Iannotti

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“It’s gonna be an explosive fight. I heard Tyra’s really aggressive and good on the ground so it should be very exciting for the fans.”
“The Dean of Mean,” “The Hungarian Nightmare,” “Lights Out,” “The Iceman,” “The Arm Collector,” “The Baby Faced Assassin,” “The Axe Murderer” … Some fighters do a decent job of living up to their nicknames, but Michelle “The Karate Hottie” Waterson (pictured above) takes the cake. Oh yeah, the former bikini model will take on Tyra Parker tomorrow night on the Strikeforce: “Payback” card, which takes place at the Broomfield Events Center in Denver, Colorado and will air live on HDNet beginning at 10 p.m. ET. Yum.
Definitely newsworthy considering how damn hot she is..



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Definitely newsworthy considering how damn hot she is..
hell ye its newsworthy

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hell ye its newsworthy

the elite xc card looks not too bad not quality fights but worth seeing
Yeah, it should definitely pull the ratings CBS is looking for. Throwing Arlovski on there last minute really added some legitimacy to the card as well. What I'm interested in seeing is how they plan on pulling off 5 fights on a 2 hour show..



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Yeah, it should definitely pull the ratings CBS is looking for. Throwing Arlovski on there last minute really added some legitimacy to the card as well. What I'm interested in seeing is how they plan on pulling off 5 fights on a 2 hour show..
they wont be doing ufc style promos for a start



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they wont be doing ufc style promos for a start
I guess they're also counting on quick finishes, which all the fights should be.



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I guess they're also counting on quick finishes, which all the fights should be.
whats your picks the repro

does kimbo get brought back to reality ?

and effectively end elite xc

i guess they might have one more event at least cause the carano santos fight should be a draw



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Old 10-03-2008, 08:29 AM   #1709
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whats your picks the repro

does kimbo get brought back to reality ?

and effectively end elite xc

i guess they might have one more event at least cause the carano santos fight should be a draw
I don't know much about the undercard fights but here are my main card picks:

  • Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson vs. Ken Shamrock
  • Champ Jake Shields vs. Paul Daley (for EliteXC welterweight title)
  • Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson
  • Gina Carano vs. Kelly Kobold-Gavin
  • Benji Radach vs. Murilo "Ninja" Rua
Pretty lopsided actually. I don't see any upsets at all. I'll be pulling for Ken, but he's gonna get laid out.



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Old 10-03-2008, 09:03 AM   #1710
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I don't know much about the undercard fights but here are my main card picks:

  • Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson vs. Ken Shamrock
  • Champ Jake Shields vs. Paul Daley (for EliteXC welterweight title)
  • Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson
  • Gina Carano vs. Kelly Kobold-Gavin
  • Benji Radach vs. Murilo "Ninja" Rua
Pretty lopsided actually. I don't see any upsets at all. I'll be pulling for Ken, but he's gonna get laid out.
thats how i saw it but i cant imagine anybody will differ to much in their picks

im really hoping on old ken to do this one, surely if and i know its an if he can take it to the ground theres a chance at least

jake shields should be worth seeing ive read good things about him

id imagine that cyborg santos is a safe pick aswell



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