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ReproMan · 10-13-2008, 07:29 AM

Frank Shamrock vs Ken Shamrock fight in the works for early 2009 at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com

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Frank Shamrock vs Ken Shamrock fight in the works for early 2009

By: MMAmania

Adopted and quasi-estranged brothers Frank and Ken Shamrock have apparently signed a contract to meet inside the cage once and for all sometime in 2009, according to a recent ESPN.com article.
The brothers have had somewhat of a behind the scenes feud going on for years. And a fight between the two has been talked about for a while and now … so take this latest announcement with a grain of salt.
Frank is a master promoter, which means that he could be using all the high profile attention Ken received for not fighting Kimbo Slice at Elite XC: “Heat” on October 4. In the past, he’s referred to fighting his brother as, “the biggest fight in mixed martial arts history.”
Here is his most recent take on the match up:

“We’ve both signed a contract to fight each other. Ken is down with it. We talked about it two years ago, and we’ve agreed materially to fight. The fight has a cool hook, brothers beating each other up. Everyone wants to see that.”

Frank has not competed since losing his Strikeforce middleweight title to Cung Le earlier this year. He could not answer the bell for the fourth round in a thrilling affair because his forearm was shattered during the fight.
He is also on the CBS “Saturday Night Fights” television announcer crew. And when Ken pulled out of the Slice fight because of a cut sustained hours for the bout, Frank — who has not been training for a fight and competes at 185 pounds — volunteered to fight the much larger Slice on two hours notice.
However, CBS executives reportedly nixed the idea and opted to go with Seth Petruzelli instead. The rest, as “they” say is history.
So since that horse left the barn, Frank switched public relations gears and now apparently is already beating his drum for a showdown with his 44-year old brother. For his part, Ken is equally game.
Here’s a snip from him:

“Will the fight happen? Absolutely. He’s got a buttkicking coming to him. Everything I’ve learned, everything I have bottled up in me, is going to come out on him. I’ve still got love for Frank, but I’m angry at him. He feels he’s better than me, but I always spanked him in the gym. Now he wants to show me. I figured he’d wait until I was 50 years old, but I guess he’s waiting until I turn 45.”

Ken is a mixed martial arts pioneer who has not won a professional fight in more than four years. In fact, he has lost eight of his last 10 fights dating back to 2001 and he’s on a five-fight losing skid.
A UFC Hall of Fame inductee, Ken dropped his first and most recent bout under the ProElite banner, losing to Robert “Buzz” Berry via first knockout at Cage Rage 25: “Bring it On” earlier this year.
That, too, was supposed to be a warm-up for the “World’s Most Dangerous Man” to groom him for a big money match down the road against either Slice, or his younger brother, Frank.
He didn’t deliver … and he rarely does these days.
But that may not matter Elite XC Head of Fight Operations Jeremy Lappen appears warm to the idea.
Here’s what he had to say:

“They’re talking about doing it and we’re interested in the fight. It’s a storyline everyone can relate to, Cain versus Abel.”

It’s interesting that Elite XC is open to working with Ken after everything that happened as a result of him being scratched from the Slice fight.
He put them in a terrible spot. And then everything that has transpired since that night, including allegations of fight influencing, put the already struggling promotion in a much deeper whole of which to climb out.
Furthermore, is this really a fight that fight fans want to see or is it a fight that Frank and Ken think the fans want to see? Let is know what you think in the comments section below.

AKIRA · 10-13-2008, 11:31 AM

Bout time.

ReproMan · 10-13-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

Bout time.

Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to it.

TrojanMan60563 · 10-13-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ReproMan

It's a recurring injury, this isn't the first, or the second time it's kept him sidelined. Ya know, I swear you guys don't read these posts, I've stated that 2 times now....

He needs to quit punching so hard and his hand won't hurt... I can't see it being a form issue at his level of play. How you swing your arm and how your hand connects are not related in every case. He might have a wide swing but that doesn't mean he is connecting with the wrong part of his fist. Am I wrong?

AKIRA · 10-13-2008, 10:56 PM

MIght have seen this, but this is hilarious but spot on.

Dana White Goes Off On Why EliteXC Be Investigated Video | MMA TKO

ReproMan · 10-14-2008, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

He needs to quit punching so hard and his hand won't hurt... I can't see it being a form issue at his level of play. How you swing your arm and how your hand connects are not related in every case. He might have a wide swing but that doesn't mean he is connecting with the wrong part of his fist. Am I wrong?

In general, I'd agree with you. I was looking for the clip, but Bas Rutten talks about how Fedor punches incorrectly and how it has effected him over the years on Inside MMA.

In regards to the recurring hand injury:

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"It's the way he hits," Rutten said. "It's a little awkward. It's not an overhand. It's a really crazy punch, and he connects with it. That's the whole problem, once you connect with a crazy punch."

ReproMan · 10-14-2008, 12:12 PM

‘Goofy Homo’ knocks out Kimbo Slice – Outsports

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‘Goofy Homo’ knocks out Kimbo Slice

Oct 6th, 2008 by Jim Buzinski.

Seth Petruzelli, a last-minute replacement, needed only 14 seconds to knock out previously unbeaten Kimbo Slice on Saturday night in a mixed martial arts fight. What was strange was what Deadspin found on Petruzelli’s MySpace page, where he described himself as a “goofy homo.”

I AM A GOOFY HOMO THAT DOESNT ACT LIKE A FIGHTER AT ALL. I DO IT FOR FUN NOT CAUSE I LIKE TO FIGHT…I JUST HAPPEN TO BE GOOD AT FIGHTING…..AND LOOKING GOOD

So does this mean a gay guy KO’d Slice? Not exactly.
While there are some “interesting” photos of Petruzelli on MySpace (see below), his bio describes himself as 28, straight and married (he calls her “my sexy biiatch.”) He says he has opened “my latest business venture, a smoothie king, with my woman.”

On the other hand, not many straight guys would use pink type on a black background for his MySpace page. Or post this: “i kissed a guy and i liked it, the taste of his cherry chapstick.” Given the number of homoerotic photos with “gay” in the caption, Petruzelli might be straight but play gay on the Web.

Update: Dan Wetzel of Yahoo Sports contacted Petruzelli and got this response:
“I’ve been happily married for two years and been with her for five years, so I want to put that to rest right now. I’m officially 100 percent not gay. I’m in love with her very much.”

Ok, so maybe he is gay.

Goodfella9783 · 10-15-2008, 11:38 AM

Koscheck steps in for Sanchez at UFC 90

By Ken Pishna/MMAWeekly.com Oct 13, 11:12 pm EDT

The Ultimate Fighting Championship on Monday confirmed a report by MMAWeekly.com that Diego Sanchez is out of his scheduled UFC 90 bout with Thiago Alves due to torn rib cartilage. Stepping in to take his place is American Kickboxing Academy’s Josh Koscheck.

“There is nothing worse than having a great fight and then having one of the fighters drop out at the last second,” said UFC President Dana White. “But the one thing the UFC has proven time and time again is our ability to replace fights with ones as good as or better than the original fight.”
Koscheck had already been training for a fight on the UFC Fight For The Troops event in December, and says he actually hadn’t stopped training after his last fight, against Chris Lytle at UFC 86.

“I think he’s a tough opponent. He’s on a tear right now in the UFC and for me to step up and fight him, I think it’s gonna be an exciting fight. I’ve been in training since Chris Lytle, I haven’t taken any time off.”

Though he had prepared for Sanchez, Alvez doesn’t appear to be all that bothered by the change in opponents, relishing the chance to fight Koscheck instead.

“Josh Koscheck is a great fighter and I think he’s an even better matchup for me,” said Alves. “I’m looking forward to fighting him, and I’m gonna knock him out.”

ReproMan · 10-15-2008, 11:51 AM

Nope I forgot all about this, thank you.

I was crushed when I heard this, Diego is one of my favorites and I thought he'd either grind one out, or catch Thiago in a submission. Now Koscheck will grind one out.. Kos via UD.

fufu · 10-15-2008, 02:11 PM

That does suck, but...go get him Kos! He is one of my favorite fighters, it is a great fight. Although, I would have rather seen Diego fight Alves. Love them both.

fufu · 10-15-2008, 02:12 PM

So what is the deal with TUF? Has anyone been watching? Who is the top guy? Anything notable happen?

I think I'll catch it tonight.

ReproMan · 10-15-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fufu

So what is the deal with TUF? Has anyone been watching? Who is the top guy? Anything notable happen?

I think I'll catch it tonight.

I haven't paid a whole lot of attention. The best LHW is Ryan Bader and the best LW is the kid causing all of the fuss, Junie Browning.

fufu · 10-15-2008, 03:10 PM

Cool, I was wondering if Browning was still in the mix.

ReproMan · 10-15-2008, 03:23 PM

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Cool, I was wondering if Browning was still in the mix.

Well, he hasn't fought yet except to qualify, but he does seem to have a lot of skill. And he front kicked a LHW right on his ass which I was impressed with. LOL!

rdh23 · 10-15-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ReproMan

‘Goofy Homo’ knocks out Kimbo Slice – Outsports

Ok, so maybe he is gay.

IF that aint gay I dont know what it!!!

Goodfella9783 · 10-15-2008, 07:32 PM

Yeah Junie does look like he has a ton of talent but he is definately immature as all hell. He has a good chance of winning if he doesn't get booted. He has no self control.

Actually a lot of the LW dudes have some great potential and will make some noise in the UFC once they get experienced. A few very well rounded lightweights from what I've seen.

AKIRA · 10-15-2008, 08:17 PM

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That does suck, but...go get him Kos! He is one of my favorite fighters, it is a great fight. Although, I would have rather seen Diego fight Alves. Love them both.

Me too. I am pulling for Alves.

I am actually going to be able to catch a TUF episode tonight. Weird shit, huh.

fufu · 10-15-2008, 09:27 PM

One of these guys fighting tonight is trained by Rob Khan, I went to a Rob Khan seminar a few months ago. Cool shit.

AKIRA · 10-15-2008, 11:03 PM

"Pee in the pillow"

ReproMan · 10-16-2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

Yeah Junie does look like he has a ton of talent but he is definately immature as all hell. He has a good chance of winning if he doesn't get booted. He has no self control.

Actually a lot of the LW dudes have some great potential and will make some noise in the UFC once they get experienced. A few very well rounded lightweights from what I've seen.

Yeah actually, now that you mention it that Efrain kid looked pretty good last week beating Shane. His wrestling is pretty good, might take him the whole way.

fufu · 10-18-2008, 11:29 AM

Goodfella9783 · 10-18-2008, 12:12 PM

Getting pretty sick of Bisping having the luxury of fighting in his own backyard practically every fight. I know it's a good draw being in the UK and all, but it's getting played out. Go Crippler.

fufu · 10-18-2008, 12:35 PM

^ I'm with you on that. I'm rooting for Chris.

AKIRA · 10-18-2008, 11:14 PM

Welp. Thats that.

TrojanMan60563 · 10-19-2008, 01:47 AM

Why does everyone dislike Bisping? He fought the better fight without a doubt. He looked fresh the whole fight. He was not the agressor but he used his opponents energy against him...he would rush in and catch a jab....he is like 19-1 now....can't argue with that much. I am not saying I am a Bisping fan, but I thought he would win from the get go, and he for sure played the better game tonight.

Richie1888 · 10-20-2008, 05:01 AM

i thought it was weird at with the lytle fight i thought he won that beyond a doubt

AKIRA · 10-20-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Why does everyone dislike Bisping? He fought the better fight without a doubt. He looked fresh the whole fight. He was not the agressor but he used his opponents energy against him...he would rush in and catch a jab....he is like 19-1 now....can't argue with that much. I am not saying I am a Bisping fan, but I thought he would win from the get go, and he for sure played the better game tonight.

I actually like the guy. I thought he was entertaining in the show. As far as the recent fight, I thought hed win, but I was pulling for Leben.

Bisping didnt really do anything impressive. He clearly won, yes, but with a 19-1 record, I would think hed be amazing, but hes not. Its as if hes not challenged that much. IMO opinion, Leben is better than he was on the show, but not that much better. If Bisping was so great, he shouldve walked through Leben, but even with the unanimous decision (that I cant see anyone would disagree with), he seemed to struggle here and there regardless of his counterstriking ability.

AKIRA · 10-20-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Why does everyone dislike Bisping? He fought the better fight without a doubt. He looked fresh the whole fight. He was not the agressor but he used his opponents energy against him...he would rush in and catch a jab....he is like 19-1 now....can't argue with that much. I am not saying I am a Bisping fan, but I thought he would win from the get go, and he for sure played the better game tonight.

To give you some examples...

ReproMan · 10-21-2008, 09:59 AM

Looks like the end for EliteXC:

EliteXC’s Demise Likely to Signal Change in MMA Landscape - MMA on Tap

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EliteXC’s Demise Likely to Signal Change in MMA Landscape

Oct 21, 2008 1:53 AM John Chandler

Photo by Esther Lin/EliteXC.
High network television ratings, the financial backing of two media giants, and the greatest amount of visibility for an MMA promotion to date proved to be not enough for ProElite and its figurehead brand, EliteXC, as another organization that attempted to dethrone the Zuffa empire has likely come to a crashing halt.
The news of ProElite’s demise has quickly spread throughout the mixed martial arts community and as expected, so has reaction. However the story of the downfall of one of MMA’s most influential companies is just beginning as facts regarding ProElite’s insurmountable debt, failed sale, and questionable tactics will likely surface within the next few weeks following its expected cessation at the end of this week.
During its close to two-year run as one of MMA’s most unique associations, ProElite began as a vision for MMA fighters and fans that weren’t too fond of the monopoly the Ultimate Fighting Championship was quickly creating. Showtime, which owned a 20 percent stake in the company, aired ProElite’s first live event in February 2007. Entitled “EliteXC: Destiny”, over 7,000 fans packed the DeSoto Civic Center in Southaven, Mississippi to see Frank Shamrock continue his return to active competition against Renzo Gracie.
Overall, the EliteXC brand put on a total of twenty events, nine of them promoted as part of its ShoXC: Elite Challenger Series extension, which was formed as an outlet for up-and-coming prospects to showcase their skills in front of a broader audience compared to smaller regional shows.
The company also acquired some of the sport’s better-known feeder promotions in Cage Rage, King of the Cage, and ICON Sport, as well as forming partnerships with Rumble on the Rock and Korea-based Spirit MC. With its goal to build a non-exclusive organization housing several outlets for fighters to stay active in, it once looked as if Zuffa may have had a legitimate rival company to deal with, especially when CBS came calling this past spring.
EliteXC became the first major MMA promotion other than the now-defunct International Fight League to have a live event broadcast on network television when “Primetime” was shown in front of 6.5 million viewers worldwide. However the numbers from the next two events under the CBS banner failed to reach the same level, leading to speculation that CBS may have been considering dropping ProElite from their deal in favor of agreeing to terms with either the UFC or Affliction.
ProElite reportedly accumulated close to $60 million in debt over its existence, an amount too large for the organization to overcome, despite funding from both CBS and Showtime that helped it stay afloat for the short term following an August 15 SEC filing stating that the company would need approximately $3.5 million in funding to operate until the end of the year.
The organization was subject of much criticism during its run, the majority of it surrounding a select group of individuals - Gary Shaw and his son Jared and their prized acquisition, popular internet street brawler Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson, who drew extreme ire from hardcore fans who didn’t want Ferguson’s image to taint a sport that had began to drift far away from its controversial past.
However negativity reached an all-time high following Ferguson’s first professional defeat to one-time “Ultimate Fighter” reality show contestant Seth Petruzelli, who one day after his monumental victory, revealed that EliteXC officials had bribed him with a bonus to keep the fight against Ferguson on the feet.
A slew of negative publicity, mainstream media coverage, contradicting official statements from EliteXC, and a preliminary investigation by the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation into the matter followed and likely damaged relations with both CBS and Showtime, who entered into talks to purchase the ProElite brand before opting to walk away from the negotiations and reportedly cut off all funding, quickly leading to the company’s deterioration over the last couple of weeks.
While some fans may rejoice over the demise of ProElite and its lackluster advertising efforts, sketchy operating methods, and overall lack of MMA knowledge, the fact remains that hundreds of fighters are now unemployed as a result of the organization folding.
The major promotions such as the UFC, WEC, Strikeforce, and Affliction may choose to participate in the newly stocked free agent market, but the majority of fighters under contract to ProElite will remain without a home and be relegated to the smaller local shows where they once developed their skills.
Unlike the failure of the IFL, PRIDE, and BodogFight promotions, the MMA landscape is now losing multiple organizations for fighters to compete in. The futures of Cage Rage, King of the Cage and ICON Sport, three of MMA’s longest-running and well-known regional shows, are now in doubt because of non-competing contracts their owners signed before being bought out by ProElite.
The demise of ProElite likely signals that multiple organizations will never again allow themselves to be purchased by a larger parent company while they are still successful and experiencing monetary gain, the exact mistake that the aforementioned three made over the last two years.
Also in question is the train of thought of network television executives - With mixed martial arts only pulling in mediocre numbers on CBS and the only brand to put on an event for a channel now extinct, will they ever again consider taking the risk of putting the sport back in the national spotlight once again, or leave it relegated to cable television for the foreseeable future? Affliction remains a likely candidate to replace EliteXC’s spot in CBS’ bi-monthly lineup but whether or not a deal will be struck remains unknown.
Amidst all of the doom and gloom surrounding ProElite’s demise, EliteXC may not be completely dead as a number of outlets will be permitted to bid for the rights to the brand’s name, including its former part-owners, Showtime Networks. Still, the fact remains that Showtime could also easily choose to just purchase the naming rights, video library and nothing else.
The most awkward situation coming out of this involves the UFC, the sport’s biggest, most profitable and most successful promotional company to date. At the same time EliteXC is going down the drain, so are three of the UFC’s traditional feeder organizations. Affliction Entertainment is visibly going through its own share of growing pains and San Jose-based Strikeforce doesn’t look ready enough to burst out onto the national scene just yet.
The MMA landscape has now reverted to what it looked like pre-2005, before “The Ultimate Fighter” reality series cause the sport to explode in popularity - the UFC is still the big dog, but gone is the majority of its competition, as well as some of the smaller organizations that produced some of the UFC’s most popular stars. Will the UFC and the sport continue to thrive?

fufu · 10-21-2008, 02:11 PM

Summary? hehehehhe

10-13-2008, 11:31 AM	#1832
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Bout time. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

10-13-2008, 10:56 PM	#1835
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	MIght have seen this, but this is hilarious but spot on. Dana White Goes Off On Why EliteXC Be Investigated Video \| MMA TKO 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

10-15-2008, 11:38 AM	#1838
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,226	Don't know if this has already been posted Koscheck steps in for Sanchez at UFC 90 By Ken Pishna/MMAWeekly.com Oct 13, 11:12 pm EDT The Ultimate Fighting Championship on Monday confirmed a report by MMAWeekly.com that Diego Sanchez is out of his scheduled UFC 90 bout with Thiago Alves due to torn rib cartilage. Stepping in to take his place is American Kickboxing Academy’s Josh Koscheck. “There is nothing worse than having a great fight and then having one of the fighters drop out at the last second,” said UFC President Dana White. “But the one thing the UFC has proven time and time again is our ability to replace fights with ones as good as or better than the original fight.” Koscheck had already been training for a fight on the UFC Fight For The Troops event in December, and says he actually hadn’t stopped training after his last fight, against Chris Lytle at UFC 86. “I think he’s a tough opponent. He’s on a tear right now in the UFC and for me to step up and fight him, I think it’s gonna be an exciting fight. I’ve been in training since Chris Lytle, I haven’t taken any time off.” Though he had prepared for Sanchez, Alvez doesn’t appear to be all that bothered by the change in opponents, relishing the chance to fight Koscheck instead. “Josh Koscheck is a great fighter and I think he’s an even better matchup for me,” said Alves. “I’m looking forward to fighting him, and I’m gonna knock him out.”

10-15-2008, 02:11 PM	#1840
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	That does suck, but...go get him Kos! He is one of my favorite fighters, it is a great fight. Although, I would have rather seen Diego fight Alves. Love them both. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

10-15-2008, 02:12 PM	#1841
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	So what is the deal with TUF? Has anyone been watching? Who is the top guy? Anything notable happen? I think I'll catch it tonight. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

10-15-2008, 11:51 AM	#1839
ReproMan Señor Member Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 7,260	Nope I forgot all about this, thank you. I was crushed when I heard this, Diego is one of my favorites and I thought he'd either grind one out, or catch Thiago in a submission. Now Koscheck will grind one out.. Kos via UD.

10-15-2008, 03:10 PM	#1843
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	Cool, I was wondering if Browning was still in the mix. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

10-15-2008, 07:32 PM	#1846
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,226	Yeah Junie does look like he has a ton of talent but he is definately immature as all hell. He has a good chance of winning if he doesn't get booted. He has no self control. Actually a lot of the LW dudes have some great potential and will make some noise in the UFC once they get experienced. A few very well rounded lightweights from what I've seen.

10-15-2008, 09:27 PM	#1848
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	One of these guys fighting tonight is trained by Rob Khan, I went to a Rob Khan seminar a few months ago. Cool shit. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

10-15-2008, 11:03 PM	#1849
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	"Pee in the pillow" 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

10-18-2008, 11:29 AM	#1851
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

10-18-2008, 12:12 PM	#1852
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,226	Getting pretty sick of Bisping having the luxury of fighting in his own backyard practically every fight. I know it's a good draw being in the UK and all, but it's getting played out. Go Crippler.

10-18-2008, 12:35 PM	#1853
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	^ I'm with you on that. I'm rooting for Chris. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

10-18-2008, 11:14 PM	#1854
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Welp. Thats that. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

10-19-2008, 01:47 AM	#1855
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	Why does everyone dislike Bisping? He fought the better fight without a doubt. He looked fresh the whole fight. He was not the agressor but he used his opponents energy against him...he would rush in and catch a jab....he is like 19-1 now....can't argue with that much. I am not saying I am a Bisping fan, but I thought he would win from the get go, and he for sure played the better game tonight.

10-20-2008, 05:01 AM	#1856
Richie1888 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,235	i thought it was weird at with the lytle fight i thought he won that beyond a doubt When you play for Celtic forget the Jersey forget the club, your playing for a people and a cause.

10-21-2008, 02:11 PM	#1860
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	Summary? hehehehhe fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

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