MMA News and Notes

fufu · 08-26-2007, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Excuse me for being a dumbass but what's your s/n?

"fufu"!

bigss75 · 08-26-2007, 02:10 AM

guess babalu got some of his purse lost for that fight.

**IainDaniel** · 08-26-2007, 05:51 AM

Team Canada

BoneCrusher · 08-26-2007, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Team Canada

Your boys did do a good job tonight. Maybe someday there'll even be a Canadian champ!!

**IainDaniel** · 08-26-2007, 06:04 AM

Maybe one day they will have an event up here.

MMA has been huge up here for a long time.

BoneCrusher · 08-26-2007, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Maybe one day they will have an event up here.

MMA has been huge up here for a long time.

Are there any Canadian franchises? There are smaller ones in Europe, Russia, South America, and the UK that have produced top fighters.

**IainDaniel** · 08-26-2007, 06:14 AM

All sort of underground events up here.

Organizations like TKO and ECC

fufu · 08-26-2007, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bigss75

guess babalu got some of his purse lost for that fight.

I read he held his submission too long on purpose and they fined him 25k for "excessive rudeness". I heard Heath came into the fight with a shirt with Sobral's mugshot on the front. Disrespect from both men. I don't feel that bad for Heath though, even though there is no excuse for what Sobral did.

ReproMan · 08-26-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fufu

"fufu"!

You in a fight camp?

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Originally Posted by fufu

I read he held his submission too long on purpose and they fined him 25k for "excessive rudeness". I heard Heath came into the fight with a shirt with Sobral's mugshot on the front. Disrespect from both men. I don't feel that bad for Heath though, even though there is no excuse for what Sobral did.

Daaaam. No wonder Babalu was so fired up, that's mad disrespect. Can't wait to see that one.

fufu · 08-26-2007, 08:32 AM

Nope, no fight camp.

ReproMan · 08-26-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fufu

Nope, no fight camp.

I sent you an invite. BC is in it, and A Black Guy is DeadMorgan.

fufu · 08-26-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ReproMan

I sent you an invite. BC is in it, and A Black Guy is DeadMorgan.

w00t, I am groupified. Thanks

My overall score kind of sucks because I didn't take it that serious before. This season I'm doing ok though.

ReproMan · 08-26-2007, 10:58 AM

Haha

Rogan during the Heath vs. Babalu fight: "Wow, that's ridiculous... If you saw that in a horror movie you'd say "wow, that's too much blood""

Babalu held on to the choke for about 3 seconds after Mazzagati tried to pull him off, just long enough to put Heath to sleep. BJ Penn held on to Pulver longer actually but Babalu looked Mazzagati right in the eyes and waited till Heath went nighty night. I liked it.

Josh Barnett was Babalu's cornerman, I hope Dana signs him!!

AKIRA · 08-26-2007, 11:28 AM

God dammit, where is the blood bath fight?!

ReproMan · 08-26-2007, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

God dammit, where is the blood bath fight?!

I've got a subscription to UFC on demand, you get all the undercard bouts the day after the PPV.

BoneCrusher · 08-26-2007, 12:52 PM

Downloading the unaired prelims now.

BoneCrusher · 08-26-2007, 12:56 PM

Heeeey .... welcome to the camp fufucious

ReproMan · 08-26-2007, 12:59 PM

I'm still impressed with Koscheck. He really showed a ton of improvement in his game. No panic set in while he was on the bottom, survived 2 Kimura attempts and basically came out unscathed, more than Hughes, Trigg and Sherk can say that's for sure. Kos truly deserves to be mentioned amongst the top fighters in the WW division.

ReproMan · 08-26-2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

Downloading the unaired prelims now.

Nice!

I thought Mir looked awesome. He looked quick, responsive, and strong. BJJ is top notch as it once appeared to be. I'm excited for him. Could prove to once again be a player in a confusing/crowded HW division.

BoneCrusher · 08-26-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ReproMan

Haha

Rogan during the Heath vs. Babalu fight: "Wow, that's ridiculous... If you saw that in a horror movie you'd say "wow, that's too much blood""

Babalu held on to the choke for about 3 seconds after Mazzagati tried to pull him off, just long enough to put Heath to sleep. BJ Penn held on to Pulver longer actually but Babalu looked Mazzagati right in the eyes and waited till Heath went nighty night. I liked it.

Josh Barnett was Babalu's cornerman, I hope Dana signs him!!

I just watched that. Mazzagati shoulda DQ'd his ass.
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Why Barnett hates Dana, Zuffa, and the UFC:
The Rest of the story.

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Vacant UFC Title
Posted on July 30, 2002
The UFC has stripped Josh Barnett of the UFC Heavyweight Title. The match at UFC 39 between Ricco Rodriguez and Randy Couture will now be for the UFC Heavyweight Title.
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Josh Barnett Suspended for Six Months
Posted on July 27, 2002

In a meeting held Friday (7/26/02) in Las Vegas, the Nevada State Athletic Commission made the decision to suspend Josh Barnett for six months. Barnett tested positive for anabolic steroids following his UFC title victory against Couture. This comes days after Josh Barnett's camp released information on an independent drug test that defended Barnett.
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Independent Drug Test Proves Josh Barnett’s Innocence
Posted on July 24, 2002

UFC Heavyweight Champion Fights to Clear Reputation After NSAC’s Testing Procedures Result in False Positive

KIRKLAND, Washington--On April 22, 2002, the Nevada State Athletic Commission filed a complaint against Josh Barnett for alleged anabolic steroid use, stemming from a drug test after his win over Randy Couture in UFC 36 on March 22, 2002. The NSAC contacted Barnett and his trainer, Matt Hume, to schedule a hearing via teleconference on May 24, 2002. In addition to Barnett and Hume, Roy Silbert (United Full Contact Federation President), Dr. Mark Webber (drug testing expert and administrator for USA Power Lifting and the International Olympic Committee), Mark Ratner (NSAC commissioner), Dr. Flip Homansky (NSAC), Keith Kizer (NSAC attorney) took part in the meeting. The issues expressed were as follows:
NSAC issues:

The NSAC alleged two positive tests for anabolic steroids from samples taken on 11/02/01 and 03/22/02. Josh Barnett’s issues:
The NSAC did not provide Josh with a list of banned substances or inform him of any testing requirements for anabolic agents on either occasion. To date, Josh has not received a list of banned substances.
The NSAC claims that Josh tested positive for the same substances on 11/02/01, four months before his title fight with Randy Couture. Yet, the NSAC did not inform him that he had failed that initial test or provide him with the alleged results. According to the NSAC, Barnett’s first drug test revealed three anabolic metabolites, one of which remains in the human body for up to 18 months. If this was indeed the case, why did the NSAC and Zuffa subsequently allow Barnett to fight for the world championship just four months later with full knowledge that he might have steroids in his system?
The NSAC withholds a portion of each fighter’s purse until the drug test is completed. If the results are positive, the fighter must forfeit that portion of his purse. If Josh failed his drug test, why did the NSAC send that money to Barnett on both occasions with no notification of any problem?
The NSAC did not follow established protocol when testing Barnett. They did not provide tracking information for his samples. Nor did they separate Josh’s samples into two specimens in his presence. Because of these and other basic protocol errors, a positive test could not be accurately verified or validated. Many factors can contribute to a positive drug test—hence the term “false positive.” Without proper notification and protocol, the true cause of the positive result for anabolic steroids cannot be determined.

Josh Barnett has still not received results from the NSAC drug test on 11/02/01.

During the course of the meeting, both sides acknowledged the other side’s concerns. Hume informed the NSAC members that Dr. Webber had already scheduled another test with Aegis laboratories that would follow proper protocol and established Olympic standards.

The NSAC members and attorney agreed that a negative result and education from Dr. Webber would resolve this situation. NSAC attorney Keith Kizer stated that he would prepare a draft of the agreement for both parties to sign. It was agreed that this was to serve as the final hearing and that the signed draft would bring the issue to a resolution.

Dr. Homansky then invited Dr. Webber and Roy Silbert to come to Las Vegas on the weekend of June 22 to meet with the NSAC toxicology specialist. The purpose of the meeting was for Dr. Webber to educate the NSAC on the standards, methods of protocol and proper anabolic drug testing. Dr. Webber and Roy Silbert subsequently met with Dr. Homansky and the NSAC toxicology specialist in Las Vegas as requested.

On June 11, 2002, Barnett took a new test administered by Dr. Webber, who utilized Olympic-level protocol. The result of this test was negative, demonstrating that Josh is not currently using and could not have been using the alleged substances as charged due to the length of time that such substances remain present in the human body.

Approximately three weeks after the hearing, Barnett and Hume had still not received the draft from Keith Kizer, as discussed. However, they did receive a phone call stating that another hearing was to be scheduled. When asked why the draft of the aforementioned verbal agreement had not been prepared and why the NSAC wished to schedule a second hearing, Kizer stated that it was just a formality and he would get the draft to them right away.

Hume informed the NSAC members of Barnett’s travel schedule, which clearly stated that the only time Barnett would be away was the week of the UFC 38 in England in mid July. Unfortunately, when Kizer finally sent the draft of the agreement from the May 24 teleconference, it was inaccurate. In addition, the NSAC requested a second hearing during the time that Josh was scheduled to corner Ian Freeman in London, England—a time conflict of which the NSAC was well aware.

Barnett, Silbert and Hume worked diligently with the NSAC to develop a mutually acceptable draft of the May 24th agreement. Barnett also availed himself to the NSAC by telephone from England on the day and time of the scheduled hearing.

Unfortunately, the NSAC refused the draft and did not speak with Josh on their scheduled date. The NSAC then rescheduled the hearing for July 26, 2002. Barnett requested to be present at the hearing via telephone as he does not have the resources to pay for the travel expenses he would be forced to incur in order to appear in person.

Meanwhile, neither Zuffa LLC nor UFC president Dana White has bothered to contact Barnett to express any concern or support for that organization’s reigning heavyweight champion in this matter.

It is Barnett’s hope that the NSAC will have the integrity and honesty to honor the resolution that its members agreed upon during the hearing on May 24, 2002. He is also optimistic that Zuffa will exercise its substantial influence in Nevada and voice its support for their innocent champion.

Josh Barnett is very frustrated with this situation. “I am a fighter, not a lawyer,” he stated. “I am innocent, and I should be fighting right now.”
Source: AMC Pankration

BoneCrusher · 08-26-2007, 02:51 PM

WTF?!?!? How could ANY judge call the Guida fight in favor of Maximus? A split my ass ... Guida owned all three rounds yet one of the judges gave it too Maximus.

ReproMan · 08-26-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

WTF?!?!? How could ANY judge call the Guida fight in favor of Maximus? A split my ass ... Guida owned all three rounds yet one of the judges gave it too Maximus.

Obviously a boxing lover. To Aurelio's credit, had that been an amateur boxing match he would have easily won the first round on points, those jabs were pinpoint, but Guida clearly did the most damage. That's a big win for Guida considering Aurelio's resume.

A Black Guy · 08-26-2007, 07:06 PM

Just finished watching ShoXC from over the weekend. Jesus Christ, if you complain about Goldberg, wait until you have to listen through one of these productions.

Quadros irks me.

ReproMan · 08-26-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by A Black Guy

Just finished watching ShoXC from over the weekend. Jesus Christ, if you complain about Goldberg, wait until you have to listen through one of these productions.

Quadros irks me.

You Tivo it?

08-26-2007, 05:51 AM	#183
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08-26-2007, 06:04 AM	#185
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,778	Maybe one day they will have an event up here. MMA has been huge up here for a long time.
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

08-26-2007, 06:14 AM	#187
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,778	All sort of underground events up here. Organizations like TKO and ECC
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

08-26-2007, 08:32 AM	#190
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,483 Photos: 3	Nope, no fight camp.
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08-26-2007, 11:28 AM	#194
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,119 Photos: 3	God dammit, where is the blood bath fight?!
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08-26-2007, 02:10 AM	#182
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,032	guess babalu got some of his purse lost for that fight.

08-26-2007, 10:58 AM	#193
ReproMan SeÃ±or Member Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 6,355	Haha Rogan during the Heath vs. Babalu fight: "Wow, that's ridiculous... If you saw that in a horror movie you'd say "wow, that's too much blood"" Babalu held on to the choke for about 3 seconds after Mazzagati tried to pull him off, just long enough to put Heath to sleep. BJ Penn held on to Pulver longer actually but Babalu looked Mazzagati right in the eyes and waited till Heath went nighty night. I liked it. Josh Barnett was Babalu's cornerman, I hope Dana signs him!!

08-26-2007, 12:52 PM	#196
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,311	Downloading the unaired prelims now.

08-26-2007, 12:56 PM	#197
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,311	Heeeey .... welcome to the camp fufucious

08-26-2007, 12:59 PM	#198
ReproMan SeÃ±or Member Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 6,355	I'm still impressed with Koscheck. He really showed a ton of improvement in his game. No panic set in while he was on the bottom, survived 2 Kimura attempts and basically came out unscathed, more than Hughes, Trigg and Sherk can say that's for sure. Kos truly deserves to be mentioned amongst the top fighters in the WW division.

08-26-2007, 02:51 PM	#201
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,311	WTF?!?!? How could ANY judge call the Guida fight in favor of Maximus? A split my ass ... Guida owned all three rounds yet one of the judges gave it too Maximus.

08-26-2007, 07:06 PM	#203
A Black Guy Registered Offender Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fort Pierce, FL Posts: 678 Photos: 1	Just finished watching ShoXC from over the weekend. Jesus Christ, if you complain about Goldberg, wait until you have to listen through one of these productions. Quadros irks me.