MMA News and Notes

CORUM · 08-06-2009, 03:29 PM

all the fighters that left UFC?? they left because UFC didn't want them.... they were wash outs!!!

Doublebase · 08-06-2009, 06:48 PM

I saw this this morning. Thought about it all day. It really sucks. I wanted to see Fedor fight in the UFC now. It will take him at least 3 years to fulfill a 6 fight contract. He will be 35-36 then. Then if he fights in the UFC and gets beat people will say he wasn't in his prime. I put UFC at the top of the MMA organizations. If you are the HW champ of the UFC then you are the guy to beat. If you are the HW champ of Strikeforce, who gives a fuck. Obviously Strikeforce is trying to change that mentality. Right now that is the way it is. I will not consider Fedor the best HW until he beats the HW champ of the UFC. That is my opinion and I'm sure it is shared by others. Its just really sad. I don't think this is Fedor either. It is his sponsor. All though Fedor should be able to sway them. Fuck!

AKIRA · 08-06-2009, 09:01 PM

There are other assholes out there that want to chant some sort of sneer at his next fight like "Fight Brock" and sorts.

TrojanMan60563 · 08-06-2009, 09:11 PM

Fedor Emelianenko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Go read about him and then tell me he is not an accomplished fighter, or he only fights washed up people. He has dominated every federation of MMA style fighting as well as other styles.

Without a doubt he is an elite in the sport of MMA. UFC is probably the most well known organization, but that isn't to say they have the best fighters. If someone loses 2-3 fights in UFC they are kicked to the curb and labeled a has been when not too long ago they were top dog. Is Rampage Jackson a has been? Is Rashad Evens on his way to being a has been? There is the "best in the world", and the "best of UFC". UFC is not the pro ranks of fighting and the rest are minor league. UFC fighters for the most part make shit, and I think majority of other places pay better.

Fedor may have signed with Strikeforce, but I would be shocked if that limited him to only fighting there. He doesn't roll like that, and I am sure if the price tag was large enough he could take a UFC fight. The issue still stands that Dana does not want to shell out a contract for 1 fight...he wants a commitment to what 5 or 6?

We will see Fedor in the UFC when Dana offers a 1 fight contract probably 10m+. Until then anyone that wants to prove to be better will have to seek him elsewhere.

I don't know why everyone is putting UFC as the place to fight if you want respect in MMA. Why don't UFC fighters fight in other federations to prove they are the best in the world? Oh I know why...its the long contracts Dana White dangles in front of broke fighters on the come up. It takes from from hungry new and growing, to their primes, and to their last fight in the UFC when someone else as taken their glory. Look at GSP for example. I don't know how many more fights he is contracted for, but he came hungry and lost a couple....he came into his prime....and he will fight UFC until someone comes along and takes his belt. He will lose a few fights and then he will be ready for some sub prime league right? UFC contracts pretty much suck, and obligate fighters to many fights.

Doublebase · 08-07-2009, 07:21 AM

I believe the UFC has the more elite fighters in MMA.

**Dale Mabry** · 08-07-2009, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Fedor Emelianenko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Go read about him and then tell me he is not an accomplished fighter, or he only fights washed up people. He has dominated every federation of MMA style fighting as well as other styles.

Without a doubt he is an elite in the sport of MMA. UFC is probably the most well known organization, but that isn't to say they have the best fighters. If someone loses 2-3 fights in UFC they are kicked to the curb and labeled a has been when not too long ago they were top dog. Is Rampage Jackson a has been? Is Rashad Evens on his way to being a has been? There is the "best in the world", and the "best of UFC". UFC is not the pro ranks of fighting and the rest are minor league. UFC fighters for the most part make shit, and I think majority of other places pay better.

Fedor may have signed with Strikeforce, but I would be shocked if that limited him to only fighting there. He doesn't roll like that, and I am sure if the price tag was large enough he could take a UFC fight. The issue still stands that Dana does not want to shell out a contract for 1 fight...he wants a commitment to what 5 or 6?

We will see Fedor in the UFC when Dana offers a 1 fight contract probably 10m+. Until then anyone that wants to prove to be better will have to seek him elsewhere.

I don't know why everyone is putting UFC as the place to fight if you want respect in MMA. Why don't UFC fighters fight in other federations to prove they are the best in the world? Oh I know why...its the long contracts Dana White dangles in front of broke fighters on the come up. It takes from from hungry new and growing, to their primes, and to their last fight in the UFC when someone else as taken their glory. Look at GSP for example. I don't know how many more fights he is contracted for, but he came hungry and lost a couple....he came into his prime....and he will fight UFC until someone comes along and takes his belt. He will lose a few fights and then he will be ready for some sub prime league right? UFC contracts pretty much suck, and obligate fighters to many fights.

You have to look at it from UFC's side. If they give Fedor a 1 fight contract, he wins the title, then bounces to another federation, how does it look having the UFC champ fighting for another organization? I honestly think if Fedor fights Lesnar, Fedor wins, and I think Dana thinks that as well, which is why he wants him sewed up for more fights. Everyone know this is the primary sticking point and nothing has changed on either side. From Fedor's end, he would be smart to take the fight soon, Brock will surpass him. Fedor has how many years of real fighting experience compared to Brock's 2. That has to take a toll on his body, even though he won all but one.

CORUM · 08-07-2009, 11:53 AM

TROJAN, FEDORS LAST FIGHTS AGAINST ufc GUYS WERE WHO?? Arlovski, and big Tim..... Tim got ktfo by mercer (old ass guy) Arlovski lost to a nobody in rogers..... those guys are not in their UFC form. could they get back that way.... sure. but right now they look like has beens. im not impressed..... i just do not see it, they offer you 5 million a fight and the right to do whatever you want to come prove your the best (self proclaimed emporer) and you walk away??? obviously you may have some doubt in whether you truly are the best or not...... come on GUARENTEED 30 million!!!!!! looks like a dodger to me, thats making up excuses, just drop your managers and prove you are the best.

TrojanMan60563 · 08-07-2009, 01:25 PM

Dana White traps people into a UFC career as I mentioned before. I can totally side with Fedor for not wanting a multi fight contract. If Dana wants to prove who is the best he will sign for 1 fight at a time. I don't think Fedor as any reserves to fighting anyone in the UFC. Its Dana White he has an issue with.

Secondly Corum maybe you didn't go read wiki about him, but he is very accomplished in many ways as a professional fighter. To claim only UFC houses the best fighters in the world is foolish. I think you will see more fighters fighting open contracts in the future because other federations DO have elite fighters, and these folks are not sucked in by Dana White and his empire.

added after the fact is...UFC is what people know as the household name in MMA. You cannot compare UFC to anyone because they do not fight eachother. Only when people are "washed up" do they leave their previous federtions to seek another fighting career elsewhere....Until fighting between federations is allowed, where fighters can perform in their primes, then you can't count anyone out.

AKIRA · 08-07-2009, 02:12 PM

Bottom line, he doesnt want to do it. If I was him, Id say fuck the contract ties, I have a new contract that will pay what I may owe. UFC has always been bigger than their competition (PRIDE may have been bigger in UFC's birth years), so it makes sense that the best would want to fight for the best.

In other words, proving that he "cant" is impossible." I have more reason to believe he doesnt WANT to sign and thats the bottom line.

TrojanMan60563 · 08-08-2009, 12:56 AM

I agree....he does want to sign....has nothing to do with not wanting to fight UFC...Dana is nothing more then a tick.

TrojanMan60563 · 08-09-2009, 10:38 AM

OMG what the hell was that pathetic show Forrest put on? Then he runs all the way back to the locker room? That was either a set fight to give Anderson his big intro into the weight class, or .... or..... I want to hear what Forrest has to say. My only guess is he was so emarassed by his fight he didn't want to speak so he ran away.

DesertFox · 08-10-2009, 12:56 AM

Forrest just got completely humiliated and he knew it right away so he just left. I was looking forward to Kenny Florian beating BJ but it didn't happen...sigh.

AKIRA · 08-12-2009, 10:33 AM

**IainDaniel** · 08-12-2009, 12:44 PM

HAHAHA that is classic.

Runnnn Forrest

AKIRA · 08-12-2009, 12:48 PM

Am i the only one that thinks Silva looks like Seal without acne scars?

**IainDaniel** · 08-12-2009, 12:55 PM

Yeah similar

TrojanMan60563 · 08-12-2009, 06:06 PM

I don't think that is acne scars...yes they do look similar

GreenLit · 08-14-2009, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegoodstuffguy

In MMA you can use any fighting style right? Kicks, punches, knees, elbows, headbutts - whatever?

The fights always seem to be decided on the ground though, which seems to suggest that 1 on 1, wrestling style fighting techniques trump all others?

This is why Gracie/Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu is so popular.

AKIRA · 08-16-2009, 12:43 AM

I Fucking Hate T K O s.

Gina shouldve went to the 2nd!!!!

Doublebase · 08-16-2009, 08:18 PM

Fight Finder - Fedor "The Last Emperor" Emelianenko's Mixed Martial Arts Statistics
Here's everyone Fedor has fought. Impressive? Yes. Does it mean he is the best in the world? No. Fighting has changed tremendously in the past 5 years. I want to see Fedor fight some of the new HW's. Such as Brock, Mir, Couture, Kongo, Gonzaga. I know he has beaten Nog before but I would like to see that now. He could absolutely annihilate everyone I have listed but until I see him beat the HW champ, he is not the best in the world, in my eyes.

Also, check this documentary out. It was on HBO back in 2002. Really great insight into the beginnings of MMA. Lots of ROID use. Go figure.
Amazon.com: The Smashing Machine - The Life and Times of Extreme Fighter Mark Kerr: Mark Kerr, Mark Coleman, Dawn Staples, Bas Rutten, Eddie Goldman, Royce Gracie, Ken Shamrock, Igor Vovchanchyn, Stephen Schlueter, John Hyams, Frederico Lapenda, Gavi

AKIRA · 08-16-2009, 09:37 PM

Umm..thanks.

Cyborg is juicing and there should be a 'Barnett' test. Strip her of her title and give it back. No men in Women MMA!

Doublebase · 08-17-2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Umm..thanks.

Cyborg is juicing and there should be a 'Barnett' test. Strip her of her title and give it back. No men in Women MMA!

Tru dat.

TrojanMan60563 · 08-17-2009, 09:13 AM

Nice post above with a history on Fedor. I think it goes without being said I am a huge fan, and believe 100% he is the best in the world. I hope Fedor and the UFC can agree on some terms to allow us the pleasure of seeing him fight Brock and some of the other top heavy weights. Once that happens I hope the non Fedor fans can become more supportive of this guy once he has proven himself agains the best UFC has to offer.

AKIRA · 08-17-2009, 09:41 AM

Hard to do that now considering the dodge. I get the legality, but he didnt overcome it and that is what an "Emperor" wouldnt do.

Doublebase · 08-17-2009, 11:12 AM

Chuck Liddell on the next season of dancing with the stars...What the.
'Dancing With the Stars' Season 9 Cast Announced - Dancing with the Stars - AOL Television

Doublebase · 08-18-2009, 08:04 PM

Silva talks about training with Franklin. He seems like a really cool guy. He speaks very well about the sport.

YouTube Video

AKIRA · 08-18-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doublebase

Chuck Liddell on the next season of dancing with the stars...What the.
'Dancing With the Stars' Season 9 Cast Announced - Dancing with the Stars - AOL Television

Worst news for Liddell. Worst loss.

Richie1888 · 08-20-2009, 04:40 AM

maybe get santos one of these

Athletics Gender Row: South African Caster Semenya To Undergo Gender Test After Winning Gold Medal | World News | Sky News

AKIRA · 09-19-2009, 11:47 PM

What? WHAT?! Cro Cop, what the fuck man?

AKIRA · 09-19-2009, 11:47 PM

By the way, note to referee, if Kampman is standing, its not a ko or even a tko.

08-06-2009, 06:48 PM	#2222
Doublebase Lightweight, Ya Buddy! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 7,323	I saw this this morning. Thought about it all day. It really sucks. I wanted to see Fedor fight in the UFC now. It will take him at least 3 years to fulfill a 6 fight contract. He will be 35-36 then. Then if he fights in the UFC and gets beat people will say he wasn't in his prime. I put UFC at the top of the MMA organizations. If you are the HW champ of the UFC then you are the guy to beat. If you are the HW champ of Strikeforce, who gives a fuck. Obviously Strikeforce is trying to change that mentality. Right now that is the way it is. I will not consider Fedor the best HW until he beats the HW champ of the UFC. That is my opinion and I'm sure it is shared by others. Its just really sad. I don't think this is Fedor either. It is his sponsor. All though Fedor should be able to sway them. Fuck! "A child does not learn to squat from the top down -- in other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and makes the conscious decision to stand." - Gray Cook

08-06-2009, 09:01 PM	#2223
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	There are other assholes out there that want to chant some sort of sneer at his next fight like "Fight Brock" and sorts. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

08-07-2009, 07:21 AM	#2225
Doublebase Lightweight, Ya Buddy! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 7,323	I believe the UFC has the more elite fighters in MMA. "A child does not learn to squat from the top down -- in other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and makes the conscious decision to stand." - Gray Cook

08-07-2009, 01:25 PM	#2228
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	Dana White traps people into a UFC career as I mentioned before. I can totally side with Fedor for not wanting a multi fight contract. If Dana wants to prove who is the best he will sign for 1 fight at a time. I don't think Fedor as any reserves to fighting anyone in the UFC. Its Dana White he has an issue with. Secondly Corum maybe you didn't go read wiki about him, but he is very accomplished in many ways as a professional fighter. To claim only UFC houses the best fighters in the world is foolish. I think you will see more fighters fighting open contracts in the future because other federations DO have elite fighters, and these folks are not sucked in by Dana White and his empire. added after the fact is...UFC is what people know as the household name in MMA. You cannot compare UFC to anyone because they do not fight eachother. Only when people are "washed up" do they leave their previous federtions to seek another fighting career elsewhere....Until fighting between federations is allowed, where fighters can perform in their primes, then you can't count anyone out. Last edited by TrojanMan60563 : 08-07-2009 at 01:31 PM.

08-07-2009, 02:12 PM	#2229
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Bottom line, he doesnt want to do it. If I was him, Id say fuck the contract ties, I have a new contract that will pay what I may owe. UFC has always been bigger than their competition (PRIDE may have been bigger in UFC's birth years), so it makes sense that the best would want to fight for the best. In other words, proving that he "cant" is impossible." I have more reason to believe he doesnt WANT to sign and thats the bottom line. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

08-06-2009, 03:29 PM	#2221
CORUM Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 557	all the fighters that left UFC?? they left because UFC didn't want them.... they were wash outs!!!

08-06-2009, 09:11 PM	#2224
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	Fedor Emelianenko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Go read about him and then tell me he is not an accomplished fighter, or he only fights washed up people. He has dominated every federation of MMA style fighting as well as other styles. Without a doubt he is an elite in the sport of MMA. UFC is probably the most well known organization, but that isn't to say they have the best fighters. If someone loses 2-3 fights in UFC they are kicked to the curb and labeled a has been when not too long ago they were top dog. Is Rampage Jackson a has been? Is Rashad Evens on his way to being a has been? There is the "best in the world", and the "best of UFC". UFC is not the pro ranks of fighting and the rest are minor league. UFC fighters for the most part make shit, and I think majority of other places pay better. Fedor may have signed with Strikeforce, but I would be shocked if that limited him to only fighting there. He doesn't roll like that, and I am sure if the price tag was large enough he could take a UFC fight. The issue still stands that Dana does not want to shell out a contract for 1 fight...he wants a commitment to what 5 or 6? We will see Fedor in the UFC when Dana offers a 1 fight contract probably 10m+. Until then anyone that wants to prove to be better will have to seek him elsewhere. I don't know why everyone is putting UFC as the place to fight if you want respect in MMA. Why don't UFC fighters fight in other federations to prove they are the best in the world? Oh I know why...its the long contracts Dana White dangles in front of broke fighters on the come up. It takes from from hungry new and growing, to their primes, and to their last fight in the UFC when someone else as taken their glory. Look at GSP for example. I don't know how many more fights he is contracted for, but he came hungry and lost a couple....he came into his prime....and he will fight UFC until someone comes along and takes his belt. He will lose a few fights and then he will be ready for some sub prime league right? UFC contracts pretty much suck, and obligate fighters to many fights.

08-07-2009, 11:53 AM	#2227
CORUM Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 557	TROJAN, FEDORS LAST FIGHTS AGAINST ufc GUYS WERE WHO?? Arlovski, and big Tim..... Tim got ktfo by mercer (old ass guy) Arlovski lost to a nobody in rogers..... those guys are not in their UFC form. could they get back that way.... sure. but right now they look like has beens. im not impressed..... i just do not see it, they offer you 5 million a fight and the right to do whatever you want to come prove your the best (self proclaimed emporer) and you walk away??? obviously you may have some doubt in whether you truly are the best or not...... come on GUARENTEED 30 million!!!!!! looks like a dodger to me, thats making up excuses, just drop your managers and prove you are the best.

08-08-2009, 12:56 AM	#2230
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	I agree....he does want to sign....has nothing to do with not wanting to fight UFC...Dana is nothing more then a tick.

08-09-2009, 10:38 AM	#2231
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	OMG what the hell was that pathetic show Forrest put on? Then he runs all the way back to the locker room? That was either a set fight to give Anderson his big intro into the weight class, or .... or..... I want to hear what Forrest has to say. My only guess is he was so emarassed by his fight he didn't want to speak so he ran away.

08-10-2009, 12:56 AM	#2232
DesertFox Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 190	Forrest just got completely humiliated and he knew it right away so he just left. I was looking forward to Kenny Florian beating BJ but it didn't happen...sigh. 6' 0" 20 yrs 9 Months deep into life 210 lbs 17% Body Fat (approx)

08-12-2009, 10:33 AM	#2233
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

08-12-2009, 12:44 PM	#2234
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	HAHAHA that is classic. Runnnn Forrest Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

08-12-2009, 12:48 PM	#2235
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Am i the only one that thinks Silva looks like Seal without acne scars? 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

08-12-2009, 12:55 PM	#2236
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	Yeah similar Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

08-12-2009, 06:06 PM	#2237
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	I don't think that is acne scars...yes they do look similar

08-16-2009, 12:43 AM	#2239
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	I Fucking Hate T K O s. Gina shouldve went to the 2nd!!!! 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

08-16-2009, 08:18 PM	#2240
Doublebase Lightweight, Ya Buddy! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 7,323	Fight Finder - Fedor "The Last Emperor" Emelianenko's Mixed Martial Arts Statistics Here's everyone Fedor has fought. Impressive? Yes. Does it mean he is the best in the world? No. Fighting has changed tremendously in the past 5 years. I want to see Fedor fight some of the new HW's. Such as Brock, Mir, Couture, Kongo, Gonzaga. I know he has beaten Nog before but I would like to see that now. He could absolutely annihilate everyone I have listed but until I see him beat the HW champ, he is not the best in the world, in my eyes. Also, check this documentary out. It was on HBO back in 2002. Really great insight into the beginnings of MMA. Lots of ROID use. Go figure. Amazon.com: The Smashing Machine - The Life and Times of Extreme Fighter Mark Kerr: Mark Kerr, Mark Coleman, Dawn Staples, Bas Rutten, Eddie Goldman, Royce Gracie, Ken Shamrock, Igor Vovchanchyn, Stephen Schlueter, John Hyams, Frederico Lapenda, Gavi "A child does not learn to squat from the top down -- in other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and makes the conscious decision to stand." - Gray Cook

08-16-2009, 09:37 PM	#2241
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Umm..thanks. Cyborg is juicing and there should be a 'Barnett' test. Strip her of her title and give it back. No men in Women MMA! 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

08-17-2009, 09:13 AM	#2243
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	Nice post above with a history on Fedor. I think it goes without being said I am a huge fan, and believe 100% he is the best in the world. I hope Fedor and the UFC can agree on some terms to allow us the pleasure of seeing him fight Brock and some of the other top heavy weights. Once that happens I hope the non Fedor fans can become more supportive of this guy once he has proven himself agains the best UFC has to offer.

08-17-2009, 09:41 AM	#2244
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Hard to do that now considering the dodge. I get the legality, but he didnt overcome it and that is what an "Emperor" wouldnt do. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

08-17-2009, 11:12 AM	#2245
Doublebase Lightweight, Ya Buddy! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 7,323	Chuck Liddell on the next season of dancing with the stars...What the. 'Dancing With the Stars' Season 9 Cast Announced - Dancing with the Stars - AOL Television "A child does not learn to squat from the top down -- in other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and makes the conscious decision to stand." - Gray Cook

08-20-2009, 04:40 AM	#2248
Richie1888 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,235	maybe get santos one of these Athletics Gender Row: South African Caster Semenya To Undergo Gender Test After Winning Gold Medal \| World News \| Sky News When you play for Celtic forget the Jersey forget the club, your playing for a people and a cause.

09-19-2009, 11:47 PM	#2249
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	What? WHAT?! Cro Cop, what the fuck man? 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

09-19-2009, 11:47 PM	#2250
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	By the way, note to referee, if Kampman is standing, its not a ko or even a tko. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal Last edited by AKIRA : 09-19-2009 at 11:48 PM. Reason: Ives is a moron.

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