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**DOMS** · 04-27-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Or how about a few years ago in the NHL playoffs, the New York Islander fans booed the Canadian National anthem. When the series returned to Toronto, the Canadian fans cheered emphatically during the American Anthem. To show what class is.

So then, it's just the MMA fans?

**DOMS** · 04-27-2008, 11:26 AM

After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?

tallcall · 04-27-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DOMS

After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?

Actually I think there's a whole heck of a lot more guys in the 155 "lightweight" and 205 "light-heavyweight" classes than the others. Right now 185 is popular but I think that's due to Anderson Silva being the champ and everyone and their mother wanting a crack at him. I love Anderson, I'd also love to fight him just so I could say I had my ass handed to me by Anderson Silva!

Richie1888 · 04-27-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fufu

Off night it may be, but you still don't run.

fair point i suppose.

AKIRA · 04-27-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DOMS

After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?

I think it has to do with the average weight vs. the easiest weight to make. I would be a beast at 185lbs. I wouldnt doubt I am not the only one with that kind of attitude...

What Id like to see is a TUF show with nothing BUT heavyweights. That department seems to be the most lacking as far as being true to just the UFC and the constant bickering as to who is the best..

I mean, Couture was the last respectable HW champ. Everyone else seemed like a target waiting to be knocked down. However, you got GSP in WW, Silva in MW, both of them earned and deserved that title. Shit, even Rampage in LHW is a better champ than Liddell. (Here it comes)

biggfly · 04-27-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

I think it has to do with the average weight vs. the easiest weight to make. I would be a beast at 185lbs. I wouldnt doubt I am not the only one with that kind of attitude...

What Id like to see is a TUF show with nothing BUT heavyweights. That department seems to be the most lacking as far as being true to just the UFC and the constant bickering as to who is the best..

I mean, Couture was the last respectable HW champ. Everyone else seemed like a target waiting to be knocked down. However, you got GSP in WW, Silva in MW, both of them earned and deserved that title. Shit, even Rampage in LHW is a better champ than Liddell. (Here it comes)

I agree...Rampage is a better champ. Liddell is straight up scared of Rampage...no way he will ever beat him. Rampage is a funny fucker too...

fufu · 04-27-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DOMS

After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?

What do you mean? The talent pool sucks in that division compared to LHW, WW and LW. The only division worse right now is the HW.

There aren't many main card MW showbusters.

**DOMS** · 04-27-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fufu

What do you mean? The talent pool sucks in that division compared to LHW, WW and LW. The only division worse right now is the HW.

There aren't many main card MW showbusters.

So many of the bouts in the last UFC shows, and a lot of the contenders on The Ultimate Fighter, seem to be in that weight category.

fufu · 04-27-2008, 03:56 PM

I don't think there were any MW bouts in the last UFN.

There were alot in the last PPV card, but that doesn't mean anything. It is just the ebb and flow of match making.

fufu · 04-27-2008, 03:58 PM

Take a look at the last UFN. 7/12 fights were LW's.

Nothing to pay attention to IMO.

AKIRA · 04-27-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fufu

What do you mean? The talent pool sucks in that division compared to LHW, WW and LW. The only division worse right now is the HW.

There aren't many main card MW showbusters.

Yeah. However, I would tackle what is hurting me the most first and thats HW.

fufu · 04-27-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bigss75

They added Thiago Alves/Matt Hughes and Leben/Bisping for ufc 85

Two good fights. Finally a test for Bisping (sans Evans).

tallcall · 04-27-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

Yeah. However, I would tackle what is hurting me the most first and thats HW.

I totally agree. I wonder if it's just that it's easier for the guys to cut 20 pounds and be a heavy light-heavyweight than fight at their normal weight. The heavyweight class is a pretty damn large class - I mean it covers 206 lbs to 265 lbs - 60 pounds. They should probably divide it up further and put a super-heavyweight division in ranging in weight from 236-265 pounds. I'm willing to bet most of the guys fall somewhere very close to 220 pounds and find it much easier to cut 14 pounds to light-heavy and be some of the heavier light-heavyweights out there.

I weigh 277 pounds and am currently a super-heavyweight, I would love to cut down to 265 and fight eventually as a very heavy heavyweight - I would own all of them since I'd probably be about 40 pounds heavier. That's a nice weight gap in my favor.

CORUM · 04-27-2008, 05:38 PM

brock lesner thought the same with his weight, owning the heavy weights just cause your big

tallcall · 04-27-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CORUM

brock lesner thought the same with his weight, owning the heavy weights just cause your big

Yeah, but that was what his first match in the UFC (2nd MMA fight total). And I thought he did very well against a more seasoned opponent - If Frank didn't win it would've all looked like it was fixed. I love Frank, but I still think Brock is going to, thankfully, terrorize that entire division the way Gonzaga should've (he was the real disappointment).

Either way a 60 pound weight range is just crazy, I don't blame people for not wanting to sign up for that and face the possibility of going up against someone potentially 50-60 pounds heavier than them. I say split the division and add super-heavyweight.

bigss75 · 04-27-2008, 06:35 PM

More UFC 83 fallout, Lutter gets cut

Travis Lutter cut from the UFC | MMAjunkie.com

CORUM · 04-27-2008, 06:46 PM

tallcall you are absolutly right!! but i think lesner will be a let down, 170 lb wrestler choked him out and he never went back to that training camp. givin it was matt hughes that chocked him out, but they were rolling you would figure since he is supposedly a great wrestler he would have held his own, but the word around is he is weak minded so i do not think he will go very far. but i will say for a guy his size he is QUICK!!!! he has all the tools, he just needs to sharpen them and use them!!!

AKIRA · 05-16-2008, 10:20 AM

Anyone watch TUF last night or on Wed? Finally, Rampage is getting funny and looks like some steam is brewing between the coaches.

I thought "mini rampage" was pretty good with those slams. If he didnt tire nor take that knee, he couldve done more damage.

**DOMS** · 05-16-2008, 03:29 PM

I liked it. I wonder if the coaches are serious or just acting for the camera?

Goodfella9783 · 05-16-2008, 04:13 PM

I watched it too. Second fight was garbage. That one dude throwing overhand right after overhand right looked like a drunken bar brawler. Terrible.

tallcall · 05-16-2008, 05:03 PM

I liked Cale, but then again, I thought he was kind of hot, so my opinions may be a bit biased.

Anyways, I think it'll either by CB or Dante to win it all. I really hope CB does well, I've seen a few of his previous fights on YouTube and really just want to see him take it all. I think experience counts for a lot in this sport and that's why I think one of these two guys will be the winner (please let it be CB....I want CB....Come on CB......Lets Go

CB

Lets Go

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fufu · 05-16-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

I watched it too. Second fight was garbage. That one dude throwing overhand right after overhand right looked like a drunken bar brawler. Terrible.

Yeah, that was terrible. The frosted hair guy kept lunging in with this slow body shots but the other guy didn't even capitalize on it.

AKIRA · 05-16-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

I watched it too. Second fight was garbage. That one dude throwing overhand right after overhand right looked like a drunken bar brawler. Terrible.

Wow, thats exactly what I said to myself when I watched it. "Nothing but overheads.." (I thought it would be overhead, not overhand..?)

What were his exact words to Forrest? " cant wait til you fight Rampage"?

I wouldnt had been surprised if it went to a 3rd round though. Then again, I am not surprised it DIDNT.

fufu · 05-21-2008, 12:01 PM

UFC 84 picks?

Penn over Sherk
Machida over Ortiz
Wanderlei Silva over Jardine (come on wandy)
Gouveia over Reljic
Palhares over Salaverry
Kim over Tan
Sokoudjou over Nakamura
Wellisch over Carwin
Thiago Silva over Mendez
Yoshido over Koppenhaver
Clementi over Etim by absolute destruction

Richie1888 · 05-22-2008, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fufu

UFC 84 picks?

Penn over Sherk
Machida over Ortiz
Wanderlei Silva over Jardine (come on wandy)
Gouveia over Reljic
Palhares over Salaverry
Kim over Tan
Sokoudjou over Nakamura
Wellisch over Carwin
Thiago Silva over Mendez
Yoshido over Koppenhaver
Clementi over Etim by absolute destruction

something makes me think Jardine and Sherk though I could be wrong

04-27-2008, 03:56 PM	#1149
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,637 Photos: 4	I don't think there were any MW bouts in the last UFN. There were alot in the last PPV card, but that doesn't mean anything. It is just the ebb and flow of match making.
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04-27-2008, 03:58 PM	#1150
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,637 Photos: 4	Take a look at the last UFN. 7/12 fights were LW's. Nothing to pay attention to IMO.
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05-16-2008, 10:20 AM	#1158
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05-16-2008, 05:03 PM	#1161
tallcall That's Mr. Incredible Elite Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,223 Blog Entries: 8	I liked Cale, but then again, I thought he was kind of hot, so my opinions may be a bit biased. Anyways, I think it'll either by CB or Dante to win it all. I really hope CB does well, I've seen a few of his previous fights on YouTube and really just want to see him take it all. I think experience counts for a lot in this sport and that's why I think one of these two guys will be the winner (please let it be CB....I want CB....Come on CB......Lets Go CB Lets Go ) Note: Gay Rant Over - Ranting may come back at any time without warning - You have all been warned!
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05-21-2008, 12:01 PM	#1164
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,637 Photos: 4	UFC 84 picks? Penn over Sherk Machida over Ortiz Wanderlei Silva over Jardine (come on wandy) Gouveia over Reljic Palhares over Salaverry Kim over Tan Sokoudjou over Nakamura Wellisch over Carwin Thiago Silva over Mendez Yoshido over Koppenhaver Clementi over Etim by absolute destruction
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04-27-2008, 05:38 PM	#1154
CORUM Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 258	brock lesner thought the same with his weight, owning the heavy weights just cause your big

04-27-2008, 06:35 PM	#1156
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,105	More UFC 83 fallout, Lutter gets cut Travis Lutter cut from the UFC \| MMAjunkie.com

04-27-2008, 06:46 PM	#1157
CORUM Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 258	tallcall you are absolutly right!! but i think lesner will be a let down, 170 lb wrestler choked him out and he never went back to that training camp. givin it was matt hughes that chocked him out, but they were rolling you would figure since he is supposedly a great wrestler he would have held his own, but the word around is he is weak minded so i do not think he will go very far. but i will say for a guy his size he is QUICK!!!! he has all the tools, he just needs to sharpen them and use them!!!

05-16-2008, 04:13 PM	#1160
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,970	I watched it too. Second fight was garbage. That one dude throwing overhand right after overhand right looked like a drunken bar brawler. Terrible.