2008 New York Yankees

**I Are Baboon** · 09-09-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Wow what a bullshit story.

The Media looking to hang someone, for a team that is run like shit.

Meh, they'll be back in a couple of years. They're still eight games over .500.

**IainDaniel** · 09-09-2008, 08:17 AM

Yeah cause they can buy players like Sabathia.

Management wise it is horrible. There is no excuse for them not dominating every year with there payroll.

min0 lee · 09-09-2008, 08:21 AM

I wonder what's going to happen to Cashman this year.

**I Are Baboon** · 09-09-2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Yeah cause they can buy players like Sabathia.

Management wise it is horrible. There is no excuse for them not dominating every year with there payroll.

They are working on a new business model which includes growing their own young players and keeping them, rather than trade them away for expensive vets. It'll be a couple of years before they can wash out those expiring contracts. They'll still spend like hell, but I think they're going to try to be smarter about it and not give rediculous contracts to the Sheffields, Giambis and Damons of the world.

**IainDaniel** · 09-09-2008, 08:37 AM

Hey all the power to them if they have that kind of money.

It isn't like they are losing money doing it. Let alone the money they bring into NYC when the make the playoffs.

It is just sad when a team spends 200 Million, is getting beat by teams with less then half that payroll.

min0 lee · 09-09-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

They are working on a new business model which includes growing their own young players and keeping them, rather than trade them away for expensive vets. It'll be a couple of years before they can wash out those expiring contracts. They'll still spend like hell, but I think they're going to try to be smarter about it and not give rediculous contracts to the Sheffields, Giambis and Damons of the world.

Jeter, Posada, Rivera, Pettitte, Orlando Hernandez and Bernie Williams, Cano
The Yankees have always mixed homegrown players with seasoned players throughout there history.
It hasn't always worked, in fact Boston has used there formula during this run. You can thank Epstein for that.

Manny....Pedro.....Big Papi....those are big names that were not home grown.

min0 lee · 09-09-2008, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Hey all the power to them if they have that kind of money.

It isn't like they are losing money doing it. Let alone the money they bring into NYC when the make the playoffs.

It is just sad when a team spends 200 Million, is getting beat by teams with less then half that payroll.

Sadly someone will pay for this.
The Yanks are not the only team to do this, look at the Dodgers the Mets...you have a few.

This may be the first time in Years they don't make the playoffs....it's been a good run if they didn't.

I always say this, I would rather have an owner like the Boss than an owner like they have in KC.

**I Are Baboon** · 09-09-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

It hasn't always worked, in fact Boston has used there formula during this run. You can thank Epstein for that.

Boston's much smarter about it.

**IainDaniel** · 09-09-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

I always say this, I would rather have an owner like the Boss than an owner like they have in KC.

I am sure if KC had the revenue that the Yanks did, you would see a different story there.

min0 lee · 09-09-2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Boston's much smarter about it.

Now they are.

min0 lee · 09-09-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

I am sure if KC had the revenue that the Yanks did, you would see a different story there.

No way, read up on that owner.

You do have a few small market teams willing to spend some cash wisely, KC runs there team like a minor league.
They also get money from the Yankees...where has it gone? People keep asking that.

soxmuscle · 09-09-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

It hasn't always worked, in fact Boston has used there formula during this run. You can thank Epstein for that.

Manny....Pedro.....Big Papi....those are big names that were not home grown.

Epstein had nothing to do with the Pedro/Manny signings and while responsible for signing David Ortiz, that one (considering the overall money he's made for the production he's put up since his time in Boston) might go down as the greatest move in the history of sport.

min0 lee · 09-09-2008, 12:08 PM

OK, not those but he has made a few good moves.

min0 lee · 09-09-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Epstein had nothing to do with the Pedro/Manny signings and while responsible for signing David Ortiz, that one (considering the overall money he's made for the production he's put up since his time in Boston) might go down as the greatest move in the history of sport.

That's taking it a bit too far....maybe, just maybe for the Red Sox.

soxmuscle · 09-09-2008, 12:11 PM

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"Toronto's playing really well," he said. "I'll tell you what, a lot of people should be happy they're not in the playoff race, because they'd be the scariest team, with the 1-2 punch they've got over there with [Roy] Halladay and [A.J.] Burnett."

But, Alex, if the Blue Jays are ahead of your team, and they're not in the playoff mix, what does that mean about your chances to make the playoffs?

Said A-Rod: "I'm too tired to answer that; you confused me."

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"We have 20 games left. Last time I checked we weren't 21 games out," Yankees captain Derek Jeter insisted.

A-Rod's being realistic, Jeter's being completely delusional.

If anything, Jeter should be the one being bashed by the New York media; if not for this ridiculous comment, because he's been absolutely horrid this year.

soxmuscle · 09-09-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

That's taking it a bit too far....maybe, just maybe for the Red Sox.

From 2003 through 2007, Ortiz has made:

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2003Boston Red Sox$1,250,000 2004Boston Red Sox$4,587,500 2005Boston Red Sox$5,250,000 2006Boston Red Sox$6,500,000 2007Boston Red Sox$13,250,000

...or $30,837,500 total dollars while putting up:

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2003 27 BOS AL 128  448   79  129  39  2  31  101   0  0  58  83  .288  .369  .592  144  265   0   2   8   1   9 MVP-5
 2004 28 BOS AL 150  582   94  175  47  3  41  139   0  0  75 133  .301  .380  .603  145  351   0   8   8   4  12 SS,MVP-4,AS
 2005 29 BOS AL 159  601  119  180  40  1  47  148   1  0 102 124  .300  .397  .604  158  363   0   9   9   1  13 SS,MVP-2,AS
 2006 30 BOS AL 151  558  115  160  29  2  54  137   1  0 119 117  .287  .413  .636  161  355   0   5  23   4  12 SS,MVP-3,AS
 2007 31 BOS AL 149  549  116  182  52  1  35  117   3  1 111 103  .332  .445  .621  171  341   0   3  12   4  16 SS,MVP-4,AS

Five top 5 MVP caliber seasons for $4.5 million dollars more than Alex Rodriguez makes per season.

In this day and age, money has to be factored in. When you do so, the Ortiz signing is quite remarkable.

min0 lee · 09-09-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

A-Rod's being realistic, Jeter's being completely delusional.

If anything, Jeter should be the one being bashed by the New York media; if not for this ridiculous comment, because he's been absolutely horrid this year.

Hold on, that's what separates Jeter from Arod, Arod is already quiting.

You can't be negative... you have to think positive, you think the Red Sox of '03 thought negativly down 0-3 in the series?

If I remember that series well during the final outs of the game Jeter got a hit and was rooting for more hits.

A-Rod seems to quit on himself a lot, sure he's had a not so great year but when the game is on the line you can count on Jeter to stick his chest out while A-Rod sticks his up his ass....tell me, how many times has A-Rod come up big against Boston compared to Jeter?

min0 lee · 09-09-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

In this day and age, money has to be factored in. When you do so, the Ortiz signing is quite remarkable.

Like I said maybe for Boston but not for all of sports.

I think Babe Ruth wants to have a word with you........

min0 lee · 09-09-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

A-Rod's being realistic, Jeter's being completely delusional.

If anything, Jeter should be the one being bashed by the New York media; if not for this ridiculous comment, because he's been absolutely horrid this year.

You must hate Jeter.
I am suprised because that's the what they teach players...to be positive..a winner.

**IainDaniel** · 09-10-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Hold on, that's what separates Jeter from Arod, Arod is already quiting.

You can't be negative... you have to think positive, you think the Red Sox of '03 thought negativly down 0-3 in the series?

If I remember that series well during the final outs of the game Jeter got a hit and was rooting for more hits.

A-Rod seems to quit on himself a lot, sure he's had a not so great year but when the game is on the line you can count on Jeter to stick his chest out while A-Rod sticks his up his ass....tell me, how many times has A-Rod come up big against Boston compared to Jeter?

You can be optomistic all you want. When you are battling a team Head to Head... you can continue to fight. But the Yanks much like the Jays are down. The Yanks have to Jump what 4 teams? to get a spot.

min0 lee · 09-10-2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

You can be optomistic all you want. When you are battling a team Head to Head... you can continue to fight. But the Yanks much like the Jays are down. The Yanks have to Jump what 4 teams? to get a spot.

It's a reality we have to they face, my point is a fighter doesn't call it quits...he goes down fighting.

After the all-star break I already sensed this season was down the shitter, so did Hank.

This is all about Boston and the Rays now.

No shame on my behalf.

**IainDaniel** · 09-10-2008, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

It's a reality we have to they face, my point is a fighter doesn't call it quits...he goes down fighting.

After the all-star break I already sensed this season was down the shitter, so did Hank.

This is all about Boston and the Rays and the Jays now.

No shame on my behalf.

Fixed

09-09-2008, 08:17 AM	#302
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,854	Yeah cause they can buy players like Sabathia. Management wise it is horrible. There is no excuse for them not dominating every year with there payroll.
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09-09-2008, 08:37 AM	#305
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,854	Hey all the power to them if they have that kind of money. It isn't like they are losing money doing it. Let alone the money they bring into NYC when the make the playoffs. It is just sad when a team spends 200 Million, is getting beat by teams with less then half that payroll.
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

09-09-2008, 12:08 PM	#313
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 33,688 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	OK, not those but he has made a few good moves.
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