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Old 09-10-2008, 08:03 AM   #331
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Ok let's stick to the numbers

Teams the Yanks need to Catch

Tampa 86-57 $45 Million
Boston 85-59 $133 Million
Minnesota 79-65 $48 Milllion
Jays 78-66 $84 Million
Yankees 77-68 $233 Million


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Old 09-10-2008, 10:45 AM   #333
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It's a reality we have to they face, my point is a fighter doesn't call it quits...he goes down fighting.

After the all-star break I already sensed this season was down the shitter, so did Hank.

This is all about Boston and the Rays now.

No shame on my behalf.
I agree with Iain.

It's one thing when you're playing that team in a playoff series, it's another thing when you're as close to being mathematically eliminated as the Yankees are and have to jump several teams to even be in contention.

It's not a dislike thing because Jeter is one of the few Yankees I respect, it's simply being irrational and boneheaded which describes three-fourths of the Yankee fan base.

If you have time, go to NYYfans.com and read some of the opinions of Yankee fans who think they still have a chance at the playoffs:

"Technically, we're only 4.5 games out because we finish the year against the Red Sox and we can sweep 'em!"

Again, I love that optimism and we're all victims at one time or another of doing something similar, it's just hysterical to me given my hatred for that team and their fans.



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You don't say we are going to lose....not to the media nor yourself.
They might as well forfeit every game and call it a year.



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Tell the Phillies of last year that.



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So is Joe Torre secretly gleaming on the inside as his team holds a playoff spot, while the Yanks struggle.
Given the way Torre was forced out of NY, I wouldn't be surprised if he were pleased at the way things turned out. I know if I were in that position I would be.
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Given the way Torre was forced out of NY, I wouldn't be surprised if he were pleased at the way things turned out. I know if I were in that position I would be.
Not Torre's style...at least not with his former players.
Pretty sure he does feel that way with management though...



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Sorry sox, but I'm with min0 on this one. The realist in me says the Yankees are finished for the year, but the Yankee fan still holds out hope that a miracle occurs. That hope will remain until they are mathematically eliminated.

I don't think Jeter realistically thinks they have a chance either, but it's his job to go out there, do his best, and see what happens. That attitude is what puts them at the top of their profession.
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Hey Sox....do you wake up to the NYDaily news and look for more reasons to hate New Yorkers and the Yankees?
I kid around Boston but it's in good humor......I get this feeling I'll see you at the new stadium strapped with Explosives wearing your Schilling Jersey....yelling the "Yankees Suck!" in the back and Jeter is gay on the front.



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Sorry sox, but I'm with min0 on this one. The realist in me says the Yankees are finished for the year, but the Yankee fan still holds out hope that a miracle occurs. That hope will remain until they are mathematically eliminated.

I don't think Jeter realistically thinks they have a chance either, but it's his job to go out there, do his best, and see what happens. That attitude is what puts them at the top of their profession.
I wish I could speak as eloquently as you do.

That is what I am trying to say.

A-Rod just has a way of putting his foot in his mouth.....and then to make matters worse he denies them. I think if he were blunt and stopped kissing up to everyone he would be more accepted..



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Jeter: Who's quitting?

Aceves goes strong 7 as Damon, A-Rod provide 3 HRs, 6 RBIs

BY KAT O'BRIEN

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8:56 AM EDT, September 10, 2008

ANAHEIM, Calif.


On Monday, hours before the Yankees would lose a lopsided 12-1 game, one longtime Yankee questioned the effort of some players.

The veteran wondered aloud if players were still turning in top effort, or if perhaps some had thrown in the towel for the season and were merely going through the motions. If the latter were the case, he would be furious. When asked about that possibility on Tuesday, some veteran players vehemently disagreed. They then went out and showed some spark in a 7-1 Yankees win over the Angels.

The game would not have appeared to be a perfect setup for a Yankees victory. The Angels could have clinched the American League West Division if they beat the Yankees and the Rangers lost to the Mariners, and they were surely eager to pop some champagne. Also, the Yankees had Alfredo Aceves making his first major league start while Angels starter Ervin Santana was 15-5 with a 3.23 ERA. Yet Aceves was outstanding and multi-run homers by Alex Rodriguez and Johnny Damon chased Santana.

The Yankees are 8 1/2 games out in the wild card chase.

"He was great," Yankees manager Joe Girardi said of Aceves. "Seven strong innings, and we probably could have sent him out for the eighth."

Before the game, captain Derek Jeter, in particular, took exception to the idea that any players had given up: "If somebody said that, they should identify themselves."

Jeter, who had two hits and passed Babe Ruth for second on the Yankees' all-time hit list with 2,520, said he believes everyone is playing at top effort. He seemed most bothered that someone would make an assertion to the contrary without attaching their name to the sentiment, saying: "You've got to give me someone to disagree with. Like I said, if somebody said that, they should identify themselves. That's the way I look at it."

In Jeter's eyes, if you're going to accuse members of your own team of not trying as hard as they are capable, it should be a public accusation.


Said Damon: "I don't know who would say that. We're going out, playing hard. We're trying as hard as we can. It just seems like nothing is going our way right now."







The veteran who worried that some people had quit had no cause for concern last night. Before the game, Mariano Rivera said players should never quit, but he did not want to add to anyone else's comments by chiming in, so he said: "I prefer not to have any comment about that. I see the guys trying as hard as they've been trying all year."

That looked true last night.

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You don't say we are going to lose....not to the media nor yourself.
They might as well forfeit every game and call it a year.
Herein lies the problem. A-Rod never said that they sucked, we're going to lose or anything like that. He simply praised the Jays, nothing more and nothing less.

It's the media and Yankee fans who simply have it out for the guys head who are in the wrong here, not A-Rod.



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How would it look to have the captain of your team call it quits with games left to play?

If I was your coach Sox I would bench you for thinking that way.


Why this reminds me of a speech I once gave.....

min0 Lee

Well, boys ... I haven't a thing to say.
Played a great game...all of you. Great game.
(min0 lee it tries to smile.)
I guess we just can't expect to win ‘em all.
(min0 lee pauses and says quietly.)
I'm going to tell you something I've kept to myself for years ...no,not my sex you idiot--
None of you ever knew KEFE.
It was long before your time.
But you know what a tradition he is at The bathhouse...
(There is gentle, faraway look in min0 lee eyes as he recalls the boy's words.)
And the last thing he said to me -- "min0 lee," he said -
"sometime, when the team is up against it -- and the
breaks are beating the boys -- tell them to go out there
with all they got and win just one for the KEFE...
(min0 lees eyes become misty and its voice is unsteady as it finishes.)
I don't know where I'll be then, min0 lee", he said - "but
I'll know about it - and I'll be happy."
There is a hushed stillness as min0 lee and the crowd of boys look at each other naked. In the midst of this tense silence and the aroma of unwashed jock straps, min0 lee quietly says "Alright," to the men beside it and on top of it, and it's chair is wheeled slowly out of the dressing room.

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Herein lies the problem. A-Rod never said that they sucked, we're going to lose or anything like that. He simply praised the Jays, nothing more and nothing less.

It's the media and Yankee fans who simply have it out for the guys head who are in the wrong here, not A-Rod.
Your right, he was confused though as you are in saying that he said they sucked.

The media came out with this and of course that's where the fans get there info from.



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Hey Sox....do you wake up to the NYDaily news and look for more reasons to hate New Yorkers and the Yankees?
I kid around Boston but it's in good humor......I get this feeling I'll see you at the new stadium strapped with Explosives wearing your Schilling Jersey....yelling the "Yankees Suck!" in the back and Jeter is gay on the front.
I hate the New York media, hate the Yankees and hate many of their fans but I think half of our country thinks the same.

Wouldn't own a Schilling jersey, went years without wearing my Yankees suck shirt (because they didn't suck until this year) up until this year, I don't think Jeter is gay and I actually respect and like him as a ballplayer with the only thing that irks me being how unbelievably overrated he's been throughout his career.

That description isn't me.



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Your right, he was confused though as you are in saying that he said they sucked.

The media came out with this and of course that's where the fans get there info from.
He wasn't confused. The reporter asked him a question and then spun it on him knowing he could sell papers to the Yankee fan base who will do anything and everything to take a shit all over this guys life.

It's a joke.



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Sorry sox, but I'm with min0 on this one. The realist in me says the Yankees are finished for the year, but the Yankee fan still holds out hope that a miracle occurs. That hope will remain until they are mathematically eliminated.

I don't think Jeter realistically thinks they have a chance either, but it's his job to go out there, do his best, and see what happens. That attitude is what puts them at the top of their profession.
This isn't the problem here, TT.

If A-Rod isn't trying his best and seeing what happens then shame on him, but that most definitely isn't the case. He's been the best hitter in baseball thus far in September, so being on the opposite end of this argument is downright ridiculous.

A-Rod commended the Jays for how well they've been playing, the Yankee media and their fans chose to make a mountain out of a molehill because they are both out to get this guy and thats that.



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He wasn't confused. The reporter asked him a question and then spun it on him knowing he could sell papers to the Yankee fan base who will do anything and everything to take a shit all over this guys life.

It's a joke.
I think everybody likes to shit on A-Rod, sadly he is is a lightning rod for critism here and everywhere else.
In Texas it was the same, in Boston where he never played but almost was signed he's loathed....the stuff about that came out of there is funny. It's not so bad now though.



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This isn't the problem here, TT.

If A-Rod isn't trying his best and seeing what happens then shame on him, but that most definitely isn't the case. He's been the best hitter in baseball thus far in September, so being on the opposite end of this argument is downright ridiculous.

A-Rod commended the Jays for how well they've been playing, the Yankee media and their fans chose to make a mountain out of a molehill because they are both out to get this guy and thats that.

The Media sucks I admit, but tell me what fans do you speak of?
The one's who boo A-rod when the bases are loaded and he hits into a double play?

In clutch situations he hasn't done really good and for the money he makes which I don't think anyone can disagree he should produce a little better.

Trust me, his numbers may look good but he ain't a Big Papi when it comes to wining games.

Same shit happened in Texas.



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The one's who boo A-rod when the bases are loaded and he hits into a double play and then jump up for joy and say that they "called it" when he hits a a go ahead home run off of Papelbon in the ninth.
^ I hate them.



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^ I hate them.
You don't see that too often, do you ever see any Yankee games?
I wouldn't expect you too but he's really horrible in clutch and important situations.



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You don't see that too often, do you ever see any Yankee games?
I wouldn't expect you too but he's really horrible in clutch and important situations.
There was an article recently showing that although Arod is putting up respectable numbers, he's not coming through in the clutch, ie, his big hits occur either early in the game or when the score is lopsided.
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