Why are American footballers wusses??? You heard me!

coleman · 07-12-2002, 01:32 AM

First off, I am Australian, so that automatically makes me tough! So don't try and pay me out for being a hypocrite

I watched a game of NFL on pay tv over here and I couldn't believe how much friggin armour they were wearing!! If the sport is meant to be a test of which team is the toughest and strongest and most skillful, why do they need so much padding that they probably can't even feel it when they get crunched??? It isn't as if all those guys running into each other from about a metre apart are going to get up to any speed which helmets would be required for!

In rugby union, a true test of skill and strength, there is no padding worn. Guys have to rely on their own skill strength, not a tonne of padding, to avoid getting smashed into pieces. It isn't as though the guys are small either. At the moment, in the Australian rugby union team (winners of every trophy they can compete for) the smallest of the backs is 6 foot 2 and 104 kilograms. The fowards, they are fucking huge, mate. Wouldn't mess with them...6 foot 5 and all muscle. Muscle is their protection, not synthetics.

So, why are American footballers such wusses?

kuso · 07-12-2002, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by coleman
First off, I am Australian, so that automatically makes me tough!

You tell em buddy

Mordred · 07-12-2002, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by coleman I watched a game of NFL on pay tv over here and I couldn't believe how much friggin armour they were wearing!! If the sport is meant to be a test of which team is the toughest and strongest and most skillful, why do they need so much padding that they probably can't even feel it when they get crunched??? It isn't as if all those guys running into each other from about a metre apart are going to get up to any speed which helmets would be required for!

You have obviously never actually played football before...trust me, you can feel plenty when you are wearing those pads. Also, they do manage to get up plenty of speed. Maybe television just doesn't capture it very well, or you weren't paying close attention...but those guys can move, especially wide receivers who basically have big fat bullseyes on them whenever they run a pattern over the middle. Those guys are running full speed and often don't even see the guy that hits them (they're too busy trying to catch the ball).

Pads and helmets were first introduced to American football in the early part of this century. It was done by Universities who were under public pressure because around 20 young men DIED playing college football that year. Even with the pads there are still people that end up paralyzed, and might be very rare now but it is still a possibility.

Burner02 · 07-12-2002, 08:51 AM

Yeah, tell 'em, buddy!

ponyboy · 07-12-2002, 09:10 AM

I'm going to give a shout out for Canadian football here...(what, they have FOOTBALL in CANADA?!). We only need three downs to get ten yards instead of that wussy four downs. Our field is also longer by 10 yards. Of course...so is our end zone...and field goals are shorter...and people get a point even if they miss...crap...I'll shut up now.

I'm joking of course...I love the NFL...now if only the Bills could get to a Super Bowl and actually win it...damn you Scott Norwood.

I agree with the statement that rugby players are the most powerful in the world...it has been documented that many rugby players generate insane amounts of power when playing. Simply moving 300+ pounds down the field constantly without stopping requires incredible endurance and strength. I admire rugby players.

Stickboy · 07-12-2002, 10:11 AM

Well, Aussies are tough, no doubt about it. After all, they eat Vegamite don't they?

Here's how to fix the delima. Have one of your rugby teams play our football teams. First a game of american football, then a game of rugby. We'll wear our uniform (helmet, pads, etc.) and you guys will wear yours (shirt, shorts), and then we'll see how many from each side are standing after the second game. The team with the most wins

kuso · 07-12-2002, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stickboy
Well, Aussies are tough, no doubt about it.

Now you coulda just stopped there

LOL

Captain · 07-12-2002, 10:48 AM

You gotta be kidding me Coleman!

The Crocodile Hunter is the only badass to ever come out of Australia!!!

shooter · 07-12-2002, 10:56 AM

Football and Rugby two totally different games. IMO they can't really be compared apples to apples. btw I love both of them

Side note: I like league better than union and I totally dislike Aussie rules.

Captain · 07-12-2002, 11:31 AM

Like I said. Australia's only saving grace.....

**Mudge** · 07-12-2002, 01:33 PM

Perhaps because not all of them want to die of injuries, or be taken out of the game after only a few years of playing.

**Prince** · 07-12-2002, 01:36 PM

All American athletes care about one thing! MONEY period.

it disgusts me too.

fuck em all.

shooter · 07-12-2002, 01:39 PM

have a say Prince, don't hold back!

Captain · 07-12-2002, 01:44 PM

Having one cousin that currently plays semi-pro baseball and another that used to play for the MLB California Angels, I would have to disagree with Prince. I wouldn't "fuck em all". Those guys (my cousins) dont/didn't need a dime.

KataMaStEr · 07-12-2002, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
All American athletes care about one thing! MONEY period.

it disgusts me too.

fuck em all.

Those words make me puke…

KataMaStEr · 07-12-2002, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by coleman

So, why are American footballers such wusses?

Hey buddy, want to spend some time here in FL with full pads/full contact under the sun for a week? I wish I had some money I would pay for you ticket and also for some of you “tough” Australian friend without thinking in over for a fifth of a sec. Boy you sure don’t have any idea what your talking about.

LAM · 07-12-2002, 02:59 PM

Despite what people think the pads don't help as much as they think. My father played pro football he can barely play golf now. It’s from a combination of all the injuries and "field medicine" performed on players to keep them in the game...

**Mudge** · 07-12-2002, 03:00 PM

Approximately 12 high school kids die each year from head and neck injuries from football. I like the sport within reason, flag football was fun, but why does being macho have to mean heaving your 340 pound ass into some other 340 pound donkey? Big sweaty guys crashing into each other, yes, that is machismo to the max. Its all about breaking bones bro.

Captain · 07-12-2002, 03:05 PM

This was deserving of making the list......

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...804#post123804

Nutrasweet · 07-12-2002, 03:07 PM

KataMaStEr · 07-12-2002, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stickboy
Well, Aussies are tough, no doubt about it. After all, they eat Vegamite don't they?

Here's how to fix the delima. Have one of your rugby teams play our football teams. First a game of american football, then a game of rugby. We'll wear our uniform (helmet, pads, etc.) and you guys will wear yours (shirt, shorts), and then we'll see how many from each side are standing after the second game. The team with the most wins

LMAO, that would not be fair!!! Do you really think that it need to go as far as a 2nd game? I just average 15 min life span after they step on the field!!!

TriZZle305 · 07-12-2002, 08:32 PM

you guyz have pretty much said it but ill second what youve said....1. only people with super huge egos are dumb enough to play like that in no pads and risk their lives and careers every time they step onto the field... defense- it sure as hell is fun to watch!!!

2. If you cant feel the hits through all that "american" pading then santa clause is real and im rudolph the red nosed reigndeer.- defense.. shit im a wussey amercan football player and i dont want to play full intensity without pads...
3. CANADIAN FOOTBALL? hahahahahaha 4. Originally posted by CaptainThe Crocodile Hunter is the only badass to ever come out of Australia!!! lol trueeeee him and his wife..

kuso · 07-12-2002, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TriZZle305
only people with super huge egos are dumb enough to play like that in no pads and risk their lives and careers every time they step onto the field...

I that that is a bs comment.....thats the way the game is played....you know what they say, if it too hot, stay outta the kitchen and go to McDonalds.....

TriZZle305 · 07-12-2002, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kuso

I that that is a bs comment.....thats the way the game is played....you know what they say, if it too hot, stay outta the kitchen and go to McDonalds.....

gladdly... ill take a number three super size with an Oreo Mc Flurry

well i can just as easily say that the "why are american footballers so wussey" comment is a bs comment..... thats the way the game is played..... goes both ways

... strolls back into the kitchen after having lunch at Mcdonalds

kuso · 07-12-2002, 09:16 PM

I understand that

I think how it should have been written was they LOOK like a pack of wussy`s from an Aussie perspective...........covered in protection, different team for offense and defense........just doesn`t LOOK tuff at all.......having never played it thats all I can say.........

In Oz, Rugby ( both types ) and even AFL have one team that goes on and stays for the duration....no padding at all.......and they gotta earn thier keep........none of the star players get babied to the extent they SEEM to be over there.......

Was that better ?

Funny.....living in Japan I had this debate daily during the World cup with idiots trying to compare soccer with rugby...I mean....WTF????????

TriZZle305 · 07-12-2002, 09:23 PM

ok here mine goes... from an American perpective... or at least mine.. it seems absolutley crazy to run around crashing against each other full speed without any or with only little padding,... the humman body is very hard and yet very breakable when put in those conditions... HOWEVER it is very entertaining to watch... i dunno about the babying part ive never played PRO football but i know in Highschool football there is NO BABYING WHATSOEVER lol... i do think most american athletes are money hungry to

kuso · 07-12-2002, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TriZZle305
ok here mine goes... from an American perpective... or at least mine.. it seems absolutley crazy to run around crashing against each other full speed without any or with only little padding,... the humman body is very hard and yet very breakable when put in those conditions... HOWEVER it is very entertaining to watch...

I can live with that

bigss75 · 07-13-2002, 12:04 AM

I was watching a rugby game on tv the other game and i will say they have alot of balls running around hitting each other but these guys are featherweights compared to the NFL. No way in hell is any rugby is going to nail somebody as hard as a Ray Lewis or a Warren Sapp. Also there was not one guy on the rugby field that looked like he was above 220.

One side note: When is Paul Hogan going to shoot another movie?

kuso · 07-13-2002, 12:34 AM

I`m not sure which kinda league you were watching, but I just checked out the Wallabies site and there were and awful lot of guys on there between 255 and 265lb..................I have no idea the sizes in American Footy, but I would guess that they could go higher because of the padding

You mean to say Hog`s is still alive???? I though he died just before CD III and they used his corpse

**Mudge** · 07-13-2002, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TriZZle305
ok here mine goes... from an American perpective... or at least mine.. it seems absolutley crazy to run around crashing against each other full speed without any or with only little padding,... the humman body is very hard and yet very breakable when put in those conditions... HOWEVER it is very entertaining to watch... i dunno about the babying part ive never played PRO football but i know in Highschool football there is NO BABYING WHATSOEVER lol... i do think most american athletes are money hungry to

I think you can do ok hitting people the "right way", just like in "wrestling" - but still with my own injuries from warehouse work etc, no matter what you do its going to cause alot of people to feel f'ing old before thier time, so I pretty much stick to "I think football is stupid as a profession". My woman watches it, I dont - fun to play but I wont watch it.

07-12-2002, 01:32 AM	#1
coleman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,187	Why are American footballers wusses??? You heard me! First off, I am Australian, so that automatically makes me tough! So don't try and pay me out for being a hypocrite I watched a game of NFL on pay tv over here and I couldn't believe how much friggin armour they were wearing!! If the sport is meant to be a test of which team is the toughest and strongest and most skillful, why do they need so much padding that they probably can't even feel it when they get crunched??? It isn't as if all those guys running into each other from about a metre apart are going to get up to any speed which helmets would be required for! In rugby union, a true test of skill and strength, there is no padding worn. Guys have to rely on their own skill strength, not a tonne of padding, to avoid getting smashed into pieces. It isn't as though the guys are small either. At the moment, in the Australian rugby union team (winners of every trophy they can compete for) the smallest of the backs is 6 foot 2 and 104 kilograms. The fowards, they are fucking huge, mate. Wouldn't mess with them...6 foot 5 and all muscle. Muscle is their protection, not synthetics. So, why are American footballers such wusses?

07-12-2002, 08:51 AM	#4
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07-12-2002, 09:10 AM	#5
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	I'm going to give a shout out for Canadian football here...(what, they have FOOTBALL in CANADA?!). We only need three downs to get ten yards instead of that wussy four downs. Our field is also longer by 10 yards. Of course...so is our end zone...and field goals are shorter...and people get a point even if they miss...crap...I'll shut up now. I'm joking of course...I love the NFL...now if only the Bills could get to a Super Bowl and actually win it...damn you Scott Norwood. I agree with the statement that rugby players are the most powerful in the world...it has been documented that many rugby players generate insane amounts of power when playing. Simply moving 300+ pounds down the field constantly without stopping requires incredible endurance and strength. I admire rugby players. Today I can do what others will not so that tomorrow I will do what others cannot. The difference between winners and losers is that winners do things that losers don't want to do.

07-12-2002, 10:56 AM	#9
shooter I am Canadian Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 206	Football and Rugby two totally different games. IMO they can't really be compared apples to apples. btw I love both of them Side note: I like league better than union and I totally dislike Aussie rules. If you wanna piss with the big dogs, you'd better lift your leg high.

07-12-2002, 01:33 PM	#11
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07-12-2002, 10:11 AM	#6
Stickboy Rebel without a clue Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NM Posts: 1,115	Well, Aussies are tough, no doubt about it. After all, they eat Vegamite don't they? Here's how to fix the delima. Have one of your rugby teams play our football teams. First a game of american football, then a game of rugby. We'll wear our uniform (helmet, pads, etc.) and you guys will wear yours (shirt, shorts), and then we'll see how many from each side are standing after the second game. The team with the most wins

07-12-2002, 10:48 AM	#8
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shooter I am Canadian Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 206	have a say Prince, don't hold back! If you wanna piss with the big dogs, you'd better lift your leg high.

07-12-2002, 01:44 PM	#14
Captain franchise player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Some people with everything do nothing, some with nothing do everything Posts: 31	Having one cousin that currently plays semi-pro baseball and another that used to play for the MLB California Angels, I would have to disagree with Prince. I wouldn't "fuck em all". Those guys (my cousins) dont/didn't need a dime.

07-12-2002, 02:59 PM	#17
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	Despite what people think the pads don't help as much as they think. My father played pro football he can barely play golf now. It’s from a combination of all the injuries and "field medicine" performed on players to keep them in the game... Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

07-12-2002, 03:00 PM	#18
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,477 Photos: 1	Approximately 12 high school kids die each year from head and neck injuries from football. I like the sport within reason, flag football was fun, but why does being macho have to mean heaving your 340 pound ass into some other 340 pound donkey? Big sweaty guys crashing into each other, yes, that is machismo to the max. Its all about breaking bones bro. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

07-12-2002, 03:05 PM	#19
Captain franchise player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Some people with everything do nothing, some with nothing do everything Posts: 31	This was deserving of making the list...... http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...804#post123804

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07-12-2002, 08:32 PM	#22
TriZZle305 Go Away Body Fat Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 819 Photos: 13	you guyz have pretty much said it but ill second what youve said....1. only people with super huge egos are dumb enough to play like that in no pads and risk their lives and careers every time they step onto the field... defense- it sure as hell is fun to watch!!! 2. If you cant feel the hits through all that "american" pading then santa clause is real and im rudolph the red nosed reigndeer.- defense.. shit im a wussey amercan football player and i dont want to play full intensity without pads... 3. CANADIAN FOOTBALL? hahahahahaha 4. Originally posted by CaptainThe Crocodile Hunter is the only badass to ever come out of Australia!!! lol trueeeee him and his wife.. My "Quest for Strength" Journal The Cheapest Supplement is knowledge! Follow me on Vi-Net, Health and Prosperity

07-12-2002, 09:16 PM	#25
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,048 Photos: 15	I understand that I think how it should have been written was they LOOK like a pack of wussy`s from an Aussie perspective...........covered in protection, different team for offense and defense........just doesn`t LOOK tuff at all.......having never played it thats all I can say......... In Oz, Rugby ( both types ) and even AFL have one team that goes on and stays for the duration....no padding at all.......and they gotta earn thier keep........none of the star players get babied to the extent they SEEM to be over there....... Was that better ? Funny.....living in Japan I had this debate daily during the World cup with idiots trying to compare soccer with rugby...I mean....WTF????????

07-12-2002, 09:23 PM	#26
TriZZle305 Go Away Body Fat Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 819 Photos: 13	ok here mine goes... from an American perpective... or at least mine.. it seems absolutley crazy to run around crashing against each other full speed without any or with only little padding,... the humman body is very hard and yet very breakable when put in those conditions... HOWEVER it is very entertaining to watch... i dunno about the babying part ive never played PRO football but i know in Highschool football there is NO BABYING WHATSOEVER lol... i do think most american athletes are money hungry to My "Quest for Strength" Journal The Cheapest Supplement is knowledge! Follow me on Vi-Net, Health and Prosperity

07-13-2002, 12:04 AM	#28
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,125	I was watching a rugby game on tv the other game and i will say they have alot of balls running around hitting each other but these guys are featherweights compared to the NFL. No way in hell is any rugby is going to nail somebody as hard as a Ray Lewis or a Warren Sapp. Also there was not one guy on the rugby field that looked like he was above 220. One side note: When is Paul Hogan going to shoot another movie?

07-13-2002, 12:34 AM	#29
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,048 Photos: 15	I`m not sure which kinda league you were watching, but I just checked out the Wallabies site and there were and awful lot of guys on there between 255 and 265lb..................I have no idea the sizes in American Footy, but I would guess that they could go higher because of the padding You mean to say Hog`s is still alive???? I though he died just before CD III and they used his corpse

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