Manny would accept trade from Red Sox, even to... Iraq?

min0 lee · 07-28-2008, 07:16 AM

It's just Manny being......stupid.

Manny would accept trade from Red Sox, even to... Iraq? | NECN

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(NECN) - According to a report by ESPNdeportes.com, Manny Ramirez said that he would accept a trade to another team.
In the interview, Ramirez said, "If the Red Sox are a better team without Manny Ramirez, they should trade me... I will not object... I don't have any preferences... I could choose a team that offers me the best conditions or one in the chase for the postseason... I don't care where I play, I can even play in Iraq if need be... My job is to play baseball"
Manny goes on to say that he doesn't want to be a problem and a distraction to the Red Sox, but that he thinks the Sox are trying to portray him as the "bad guy".

aqflames · 07-30-2008, 01:48 AM

manny being manny.

**I Are Baboon** · 07-30-2008, 07:30 AM

He is being a real asshole these days.

Triple Threat · 07-30-2008, 11:30 AM

Did you see him jog to first base on that ground ball to 3rd base? When I saw how much time it took for Figgins to get to the ball and setup to throw, I thought there would be no way to get Manny.

**IainDaniel** · 07-30-2008, 11:32 AM

He does this every year.

That and he is always lazy on the base paths and in the field.

**calalily1972** · 07-30-2008, 11:36 AM

Ah...Manny, Manny, Manny.

Love the guy but he's such a drama queen!

**I Are Baboon** · 07-30-2008, 05:52 PM

ESPN is reporting that the Sox and Marlins are in "serious talks" with the Marlins about a trade for Manny.

I think the Sox should send Julio Lugo and Manny to the Marlins for Hanley Ramirez.

Goodfella9783 · 07-30-2008, 09:10 PM

Shit I'm hearing Manny might be going to Florida for Jason Bay. Please no!

min0 lee · 07-30-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

Shit I'm hearing Manny might be going to Florida for Jason Bay. Please no!

**I Are Baboon** · 07-31-2008, 06:15 AM

Jason Bay's numbers are actually very comparable to Manny's this season. Bay's got a lower BA but a couple more HR's. Obviously Jason Bay doesn't have the career success as Manny, nor is he a proven post-season perfromer like Manny is. Taking all emotion out of this though and thinking about it logically, replacing Manny with Bay in the lineup isn't that big a downgrade.

Word is though the Sox have to pick up the 2009 and 2010 options on Manny and pay the entire thing if Florida is to take him. YOWSERS.

soxmuscle · 07-31-2008, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Jason Bay's numbers are actually very comparable to Manny's this season. Bay's got a lower BA but a couple more HR's. Obviously Jason Bay doesn't have the career success as Manny, nor is he a proven post-season perfromer like Manny is. Taking all emotion out of this though and thinking about it logically, replacing Manny with Bay in the lineup isn't that big a downgrade.

Word is though the Sox have to pick up the 2009 and 2010 options on Manny and pay the entire thing if Florida is to take him. YOWSERS.

The whole reason Manny is acting the way he's acting is because his cocksucker agent Scott Boras is telling him to act this way. Manny will only waive his 10/5 no-trade rights if the team he's going to agrees not to pick up the options.

The Red Sox would be taking on the roughly $7 million dollars still owed to Ramirez for this season, but nothing thereafter.

**I Are Baboon** · 07-31-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

The whole reason Manny is acting the way he's acting is because his cocksucker agent Scott Boras is telling him to act this way. Manny will only waive his 10/5 no-trade rights if the team he's going to agrees not to pick up the options.

The Red Sox would be taking on the roughly $7 million dollars still owed to Ramirez for this season, but nothing thereafter.

That's insane. He is not going to make more than $20 per season if he becomes a free agent. He's talking about getting a $100 million contract, too. That's laughable. Obviously Boras didn't learn his lesson from the A-Rod debacle.

soxmuscle · 07-31-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

That's insane. He is not going to make more than $20 per season if he becomes a free agent. He's talking about getting a $100 million contract, too. That's laughable. Obviously Boras didn't learn his lesson from the A-Rod debacle.

He won't get more than $40 million on the open market but that's not a concern of Scott Boras'. The current deal Manny is being paid for was negotiated by a different agent, thus Boras receives no money if/when the Red Sox pick up those options. On top of that, Ramirez is pretty much playing each year for his option to be picked up which he doesn't think is fair.

What is it with professional athletes signing contracts and then being baby's forcing teams to make a move to save face?

It's unfortunate that Manny's acting the way he's acting, but I'd be shocked if Scott Boras wasn't behind all of this.

**I Are Baboon** · 07-31-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

The current deal Manny is being paid for was negotiated by a different agent, thus Boras receives no money if/when the Red Sox pick up those options.

That is an excellent point that I hadn't even thought of.

It's very disappointing to see Manny acting like this. The Sox have paid him $160 million so far and he feels he's "owed" more. WTF?

soxmuscle · 07-31-2008, 07:54 AM

It's beyond disappointing.

Thing is, I'm not entirely sure this team can win a World Series as presently constructed. If you subtract Manny and add Bay (for the sake of math, we'll say it's an even trade off even though I don't think it is), this team isn't improving any of it's glaring holes.

They should forget about Pittsburgh, take Hermida and the prospects from Florida and use the prospects to upgrade the black hole that is the catcher position in addition to acquiring Ron Mahay who has been offered for Brandon Moss according to numerous sources.

**I Are Baboon** · 07-31-2008, 08:00 AM

Yeah, the point of this trade certainly would not be to fix any holes...it's just to get rid of a disgruntled and disinterested Manny.

Goodfella9783 · 07-31-2008, 10:39 AM

**I Are Baboon** · 07-31-2008, 12:16 PM

ESPN is reporting that Manny has waived his no-trade clause if a Marlins deal is reached.

**IainDaniel** · 07-31-2008, 12:43 PM

Plus Jason Bay is Canadian, so you know you will get a champ in return

**I Are Baboon** · 07-31-2008, 12:47 PM

Goodfella9783 · 07-31-2008, 03:34 PM

Manny to the Dodgers, Red Sox still get Jason Bay...I don't know the rest of the particulars.

ReproMan · 07-31-2008, 03:44 PM

ESPN - Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal - MLB

**I Are Baboon** · 07-31-2008, 03:56 PM

Sox gave up Manny Ramirez and two minor leaguers for Jason Bay. Manny had to go, but it looks like the Sox got raped.

**I Are Baboon** · 07-31-2008, 03:58 PM

Bummer to see Brandon Moss go.

Craig Hansen has been a huge disappointment. I do hope he develops into a good pitcher in Pittsburgh.

**I Are Baboon** · 07-31-2008, 04:09 PM

It's a shame it came to this. Boston would not have won the 04 and 07 World Series without Manny, and Manny certainly gave us lots of great moments.

Good luck, Manny. Thanks for everything.

oaktownboy · 07-31-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Sox gave up Manny Ramirez and two minor leaguers for Jason Bay. Manny had to go, but it looks like the Sox got raped.

the Sox really got raped on this one...Manny for Jason Bay...wtf is Boston's front office thinking? When I heard the deal, I couldn't stop laughing...

**I Are Baboon** · 07-31-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oaktownboy

the Sox really got raped on this one...Manny for Jason Bay...wtf is Boston's front office thinking? When I heard the deal, I couldn't stop laughing...

Boston also sent CASH to the Dodgers to help offset Manny's salary.

In any case, fuck the Yankees.

min0 lee · 07-31-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Jason Bay's numbers are actually very comparable to Manny's this season.

Can he be the Yankee killer Manny was...I sure hope not.

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Scott Boras is telling him to act this way.

Manny should have done what both A-Rod and I-Rod did to become yYankees...tell him to shut his yap.

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

It's unfortunate that Manny's acting the way he's acting, but I'd be shocked if Scott Boras wasn't behind all of this.

I'm pretty sure he was behind it, watch...he won't be the same player he was in Boston.
Boras needs to be Banned from Baseball, really.

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Haha.

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

It's a shame it came to this. Boston would not have won the 04 and 07 World Series without Manny, and Manny certainly gave us lots of great moments.

Good luck, Manny. Thanks for everything.

He made that team special. Boston still sucks.

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Boston also sent CASH to the Dodgers to help offset Manny's salary.

In any case, fuck the Yankees.

It's been a good week here at the Empire......

DUN DUN DA DA DA NUN NUN DA DA NUN NUN DA DA DA

Goodfella9783 · 07-31-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Craig Hansen has been a huge disappointment. I do hope he develops into a good pitcher in Pittsburgh.

A friend of mine dated him for awhile, said he's a weird dude.

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Originally Posted by oaktownboy

the Sox really got raped on this one...Manny for Jason Bay...wtf is Boston's front office thinking? When I heard the deal, I couldn't stop laughing...

They pretty much had to. He wouldn't shut up and there weren't many deals on the table. Sucks to see him go, but he wanted out 100%. It's ashame it couldn't have happened with more time before the deadline to make a better deal for the Sox.

min0 lee · 07-31-2008, 05:10 PM

goodbye Boston, hello Hollywood as Manny Ramirez is dealt to Dodgers Thursday in a three-team trade deadline blockbuster.

There was more good news for the Yankees Thursday - and it came out of Boston. The Red Sox dealt Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers as part of a three-team deal that also included the Pirates, according to numerous reports.

The Red Sox get Pirates outfielder Jason Bay and Pittsburgh receives four players, two each from the Dodgers and Sox.

The Red Sox were obviously desperate to rid themselves of the mercurial slugger. To make the deal, they also had to trade reliever Craig Hansen and outfielder Brandon Moss, who have both spent time on the Sox's big league roster. They also had to include $7 million toward Ramirez's salary.
Boston gave up a lot?

The relationship between Ramirez and the Red Sox became badly fractured in recent days. When the Yankees played at Fenway last Sunday, Ramirez said, "I'm tired of them. They're tired of me...enough is enough." And in a report on ESPNdepotes.com he was quoted as saying the Red Sox "don't deserve a player like me."

His departure separates him from David Ortiz, with whom he made one of the best 1-2 punches in baseball.

That was a great duo.

Ramirez was batting .299 with a team-high 20 homers and 68 RBI. Bay will become the Sox everyday left fielder. He was batting .282 with 22 home runs and 64 RBI.

Your right, the numbers are pretty close this year.

Ramirez is in the final guaranteed year of his contract, which includes $20 million options for 2009 and 2010. Bay is signed through next season at $7.5 million.
In addition to Moss and Hansen, the Pirates will get third baseman Andy LaRoche and righthander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers.

What the hell is going on in Pittsburg?
Are the having a fire sale?

07-28-2008, 07:16 AM	#1
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	Manny would accept trade from Red Sox, even to... Iraq? It's just Manny being......stupid. Manny would accept trade from Red Sox, even to... Iraq? \| NECN Manny would accept trade from Red Sox, even to... Iraq? Play video (NECN) - According to a report by ESPNdeportes.com, Manny Ramirez said that he would accept a trade to another team. In the interview, Ramirez said, "If the Red Sox are a better team without Manny Ramirez, they should trade me... I will not object... I don't have any preferences... I could choose a team that offers me the best conditions or one in the chase for the postseason... I don't care where I play, I can even play in Iraq if need be... My job is to play baseball" Manny goes on to say that he doesn't want to be a problem and a distraction to the Red Sox, but that he thinks the Sox are trying to portray him as the "bad guy". How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

07-30-2008, 11:32 AM	#5
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	He does this every year. That and he is always lazy on the base paths and in the field. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

07-31-2008, 07:54 AM	#15
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 10,045 Photos: 10	It's beyond disappointing. Thing is, I'm not entirely sure this team can win a World Series as presently constructed. If you subtract Manny and add Bay (for the sake of math, we'll say it's an even trade off even though I don't think it is), this team isn't improving any of it's glaring holes. They should forget about Pittsburgh, take Hermida and the prospects from Florida and use the prospects to upgrade the black hole that is the catcher position in addition to acquiring Ron Mahay who has been offered for Brandon Moss according to numerous sources. Age: 20 \| Height: 5'7" \| Weight: 150 lbs \| Penis: 12 inches

07-31-2008, 12:43 PM	#19
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	Plus Jason Bay is Canadian, so you know you will get a champ in return Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

07-31-2008, 05:10 PM	#30
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	goodbye Boston, hello Hollywood as Manny Ramirez is dealt to Dodgers Thursday in a three-team trade deadline blockbuster. There was more good news for the Yankees Thursday - and it came out of Boston. The Red Sox dealt Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers as part of a three-team deal that also included the Pirates, according to numerous reports. The Red Sox get Pirates outfielder Jason Bay and Pittsburgh receives four players, two each from the Dodgers and Sox. The Red Sox were obviously desperate to rid themselves of the mercurial slugger. To make the deal, they also had to trade reliever Craig Hansen and outfielder Brandon Moss, who have both spent time on the Sox's big league roster. They also had to include $7 million toward Ramirez's salary. Boston gave up a lot? The relationship between Ramirez and the Red Sox became badly fractured in recent days. When the Yankees played at Fenway last Sunday, Ramirez said, "I'm tired of them. They're tired of me...enough is enough." And in a report on ESPNdepotes.com he was quoted as saying the Red Sox "don't deserve a player like me." His departure separates him from David Ortiz, with whom he made one of the best 1-2 punches in baseball. That was a great duo. Ramirez was batting .299 with a team-high 20 homers and 68 RBI. Bay will become the Sox everyday left fielder. He was batting .282 with 22 home runs and 64 RBI. Your right, the numbers are pretty close this year. Ramirez is in the final guaranteed year of his contract, which includes $20 million options for 2009 and 2010. Bay is signed through next season at $7.5 million. In addition to Moss and Hansen, the Pirates will get third baseman Andy LaRoche and righthander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers. What the hell is going on in Pittsburg? Are the having a fire sale? How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

07-30-2008, 01:48 AM	#2
aqflames Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: california Posts: 9	manny being manny.

07-30-2008, 07:30 AM	#3
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	He is being a real asshole these days.

07-30-2008, 11:30 AM	#4
Triple Threat End of the world Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 10,444 Photos: 6	Did you see him jog to first base on that ground ball to 3rd base? When I saw how much time it took for Figgins to get to the ball and setup to throw, I thought there would be no way to get Manny.

07-30-2008, 11:36 AM	#6
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Ah...Manny, Manny, Manny. Love the guy but he's such a drama queen!

07-30-2008, 05:52 PM	#7
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	ESPN is reporting that the Sox and Marlins are in "serious talks" with the Marlins about a trade for Manny. I think the Sox should send Julio Lugo and Manny to the Marlins for Hanley Ramirez.

07-30-2008, 09:10 PM	#8
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,226	Shit I'm hearing Manny might be going to Florida for Jason Bay. Please no!

07-31-2008, 06:15 AM	#10
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Jason Bay's numbers are actually very comparable to Manny's this season. Bay's got a lower BA but a couple more HR's. Obviously Jason Bay doesn't have the career success as Manny, nor is he a proven post-season perfromer like Manny is. Taking all emotion out of this though and thinking about it logically, replacing Manny with Bay in the lineup isn't that big a downgrade. Word is though the Sox have to pick up the 2009 and 2010 options on Manny and pay the entire thing if Florida is to take him. YOWSERS.

07-31-2008, 08:00 AM	#16
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Yeah, the point of this trade certainly would not be to fix any holes...it's just to get rid of a disgruntled and disinterested Manny.

07-31-2008, 10:39 AM	#17
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,226

07-31-2008, 12:16 PM	#18
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	ESPN is reporting that Manny has waived his no-trade clause if a Marlins deal is reached.

07-31-2008, 12:47 PM	#20
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4

07-31-2008, 03:34 PM	#21
Goodfella9783 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,226	Manny to the Dodgers, Red Sox still get Jason Bay...I don't know the rest of the particulars.

07-31-2008, 03:44 PM	#22
ReproMan Señor Member Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 7,260	ESPN - Ramirez traded to Dodgers in three-way deal - MLB

07-31-2008, 03:56 PM	#23
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Sox gave up Manny Ramirez and two minor leaguers for Jason Bay. Manny had to go, but it looks like the Sox got raped.

07-31-2008, 03:58 PM	#24
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Bummer to see Brandon Moss go. Craig Hansen has been a huge disappointment. I do hope he develops into a good pitcher in Pittsburgh.

07-31-2008, 04:09 PM	#25
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	It's a shame it came to this. Boston would not have won the 04 and 07 World Series without Manny, and Manny certainly gave us lots of great moments. Good luck, Manny. Thanks for everything.

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