Jay Cutler being traded from the Broncos

bio-chem · 04-02-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

You severely overrated Cutler and that's saying something considering how good he is.

overrated? maybe, but there are very few teams right now that have a quarterback who will be with them in ten years and play at a pro bowl level.

the steelers, giants, chargers, falcons, ravens are the only teams i can think of that have quarterbacks young enough and good enough to still be with the team in 10 years. and that is being generous with the falcons and ravens because those guys have only had one year. lots and lots of money and draft picks get wasted searching for what Jay Cutler brings to the table.

**calalily1972** · 04-02-2009, 03:11 PM

Ryan and Flacco both > Cutler

bio-chem · 04-02-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by calalily1972

Ryan and Flacco both > Cutler

you're joking right?

**Prince** · 04-02-2009, 04:27 PM

I just heard on the news Cutler is going to the Chicago Bears, not sure what the Broncos are getting for the trade.

**calalily1972** · 04-02-2009, 04:30 PM

"Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com reports that the Chicago Bears have sent two first-round picks, a third-round pick, and quarterback Kyle Orton to the Broncos for quarterback Jay Cutler and a fifth-round draft pick.

The Bears held the 18th pick in the first round of the draft.

Per NFLPA records, Orton is signed through 2009, at a base salary of $995,000."

No I'm not kidding either!

**I Are Baboon** · 04-02-2009, 04:33 PM

Good for the Bears! They could use a good qb after the suck that has been Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman.

**IainDaniel** · 04-02-2009, 04:37 PM

Packers D is gonna eat him up and spit him out

**I Are Baboon** · 04-02-2009, 04:49 PM

The Packers have a defense?

**IainDaniel** · 04-02-2009, 04:50 PM

Yes actually a pretty decent one...

**calalily1972** · 04-02-2009, 04:51 PM

Maybe Simms will finally get his chance now. You KNOW McDaniels is not gonna start Orton.

UPDATE: John Clayton of ESPN.com says that the deal involves the Broncos getting Orton and two first-round picks, and the Bears getting Cutler and a third-round pick.

SECOND UPDATE: Glazer now reports that it’s two first-round picks and Orton for Cutler and a five.

THIRD UPDATE: NFL.com reports that the Bears are giving up two first-rounder, a third-rounder, and Orton for only Cutler

**I Are Baboon** · 04-02-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Yes actually a pretty decent one...

I just checked. Ranked 20 overall last year. Middle of the pack ain't all bad.

min0 lee · 04-02-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

where was he shipped to?

what a baby!

Bears.

min0 lee · 04-02-2009, 05:24 PM

The Jets need a QB but they wanted 2 draft picks.

The Jets first round draft picks always bomb so that wouldn't be a huge loss.

bio-chem · 04-02-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

I just checked. Ranked 20 overall last year. Middle of the pack ain't all bad.

if cutler would have had that last year he would have been a division winner and gone to the playoffs

**IainDaniel** · 04-02-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

I just checked. Ranked 20 overall last year. Middle of the pack ain't all bad.

Up until the last 3-4 weeks they had the number 3 pass defense.

There Run D was horrible.

**I Are Baboon** · 04-02-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

The Jets need a QB but they wanted 2 draft picks.

The Jets first round draft picks always bomb so that wouldn't be a huge loss.

Who cares. Fuck the Jets.

Mike Greenberg will by whining all morning tomorrow. *sigh*

lnvanry · 04-02-2009, 06:27 PM

welcome to chicago Jay....thats best QB we've had since the 60s and he hasn't even thrown a ball.

Bear Down!

min0 lee · 04-02-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Who cares. Fuck the Jets.

Mike Greenberg will by whining all morning tomorrow. *sigh*

His man love for Pennington was funny though.

AKIRA · 04-02-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Are you drunk?

Oh sorry. I meant, I think he should stick to bodybuilding.

**calalily1972** · 04-02-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

Oh sorry. I meant, I think he should stick to bodybuilding.

Yup, still drunk.

**Dale Mabry** · 04-03-2009, 07:01 AM

The Bears overpayed for Cutler, but this makes them a lot better. With Forte and Cutler, all they need is a decent receiver to contend for the NFC Championship. On the other side, though, iot will be interesting to see how good Cutler does without a solid #1 receiver.

busyLivin · 04-03-2009, 08:37 AM

busyLivin · 04-03-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

The Bears overpayed for Cutler, but this makes them a lot better. With Forte and Cutler, all they need is a decent receiver to contend for the NFC Championship. On the other side, though, iot will be interesting to see how good Cutler does without a solid #1 receiver.

Grossman (especially) & Orton were terrible, just terrible & painful to watch. I'm interested to see what our receivers can do with a quaterback that doesn't suck.

**P-funk** · 04-03-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by busyLivin

Grossman (especially) & Orton were terrible, just terrible & painful to watch. I'm interested to see what our receivers can do with a quaterback that doesn't suck.

I think the bears overpaid too, giving up those 1st round draft picks for Cutler. I do agree that both Grossman & Orton were not very good, but the bears could have probably picked up a good QB without sacrificing so much. For some reason I just don't see Cutler as "the guy". Only time will tell though. For the record, I never though Eli Manning was "the guy" and he certainly proved me wrong.

patrick

**dg806** · 04-03-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I think the bears overpaid too, giving up those 1st round draft picks for Cutler. I do agree that both Grossman & Orton were not very good, but the bears could have probably picked up a good QB without sacrificing so much. For some reason I just don't see Cutler as "the guy". Only time will tell though. For the record, I never though Eli Manning was "the guy" and he certainly proved me wrong.

patrick

Agree somewhat. I think most quaterbacks can be pretty good given a good O line that can protect him and give him time to throw.

**Prince** · 04-03-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

The Bears overpayed for Cutler, but this makes them a lot better. With Forte and Cutler, all they need is a decent receiver to contend for the NFC Championship. On the other side, though, iot will be interesting to see how good Cutler does without a solid #1 receiver.

he can't do shit without a good receiver, and he is really good at throwing interceptions!

**calalily1972** · 04-03-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

he can't do shit without a good receiver, and he is really good at throwing interceptions!

No kidding! He's a Favre replica.

I wonder how much he bitches and moans when his numbers go down. Bears are a running team and unless they change the team to conform to Cutler, he won't be throwing as much.

**Dale Mabry** · 04-03-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I think the bears overpaid too, giving up those 1st round draft picks for Cutler. I do agree that both Grossman & Orton were not very good, but the bears could have probably picked up a good QB without sacrificing so much. For some reason I just don't see Cutler as "the guy". Only time will tell though. For the record, I never though Eli Manning was "the guy" and he certainly proved me wrong.

patrick

I still don't think Eli is the man. He had 2 good games in the playoffs last year and I still would give all of the credit to that defense.

**I Are Baboon** · 04-03-2009, 02:32 PM

I think some people here are letting their personal feelings about Jay Cutler cloud the facts here.

He's a HUGE improvement at QB for the Bears and probably the best QB they've landed in 30 or 40 years. The Bears were already a playoff contender with their defense, and now they are adding a Pro Bowl QB to the offense.

I don't get these people saying the Broncos got the better of this trade. The NFL draft is a hit or miss. 50% of players drafted don't amount to shit.

bio-chem · 04-03-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

I think some people here are letting their personal feelings about Jay Cutler cloud the facts here.

He's a HUGE improvement at QB for the Bears and probably the best QB they've landed in 30 or 40 years. The Bears were already a playoff contender with their defense, and now they are adding a Pro Bowl QB to the offense.

I don't get these people saying the Broncos got the better of this trade. The NFL draft is a hit or miss. 50% of players drafted don't amount to shit.

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calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Maybe Simms will finally get his chance now. You KNOW McDaniels is not gonna start Orton. UPDATE: John Clayton of ESPN.com says that the deal involves the Broncos getting Orton and two first-round picks, and the Bears getting Cutler and a third-round pick. SECOND UPDATE: Glazer now reports that it’s two first-round picks and Orton for Cutler and a five. THIRD UPDATE: NFL.com reports that the Bears are giving up two first-rounder, a third-rounder, and Orton for only Cutler Last edited by calalily1972 : 04-02-2009 at 05:08 PM.

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04-02-2009, 03:11 PM	#32
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Ryan and Flacco both > Cutler

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calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	"Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com reports that the Chicago Bears have sent two first-round picks, a third-round pick, and quarterback Kyle Orton to the Broncos for quarterback Jay Cutler and a fifth-round draft pick. The Bears held the 18th pick in the first round of the draft. Per NFLPA records, Orton is signed through 2009, at a base salary of $995,000." No I'm not kidding either!

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I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Good for the Bears! They could use a good qb after the suck that has been Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman.

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I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	I think some people here are letting their personal feelings about Jay Cutler cloud the facts here. He's a HUGE improvement at QB for the Bears and probably the best QB they've landed in 30 or 40 years. The Bears were already a playoff contender with their defense, and now they are adding a Pro Bowl QB to the offense. I don't get these people saying the Broncos got the better of this trade. The NFL draft is a hit or miss. 50% of players drafted don't amount to shit.

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