Jay Cutler being traded from the Broncos

**Prince** · 04-03-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

I don't get these people saying the Broncos got the better of this trade. The NFL draft is a hit or miss. 50% of players drafted don't amount to shit.

Maybe he will do good for the Bears, but he did not do shit for the Broncos.

bio-chem · 04-03-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Maybe he will do good for the Bears, but he did not do shit for the Broncos.

4500 yards passing and a pro bowl while leading the 2nd ranked offense when 7 running backs were placed on IR in his third season isn't shit. and he was 13-1 as a starter when his defense decided they wanted to have a heartbeat that day.

**calalily1972** · 04-03-2009, 05:44 PM

17-20 career record??? He's way over rated.

bio-chem · 04-03-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by calalily1972

17-20 career record??? He's way over rated.

thats what i said about the defense needing to have a heart beat. if you put him on a team with a defense ranked in the middle of the pack everything changes. 17-20 is not an accurate indication of his record. it is an accurate indication of that team.

lucifuge · 04-03-2009, 08:53 PM

I'm torn about this.
The Bears can definitely use Cutler in the QB slot, but then again, I think Orton was developing nicely. His biggest flaw is staring down his receiver. Once he conquers that, I think he'll become a solid quarterback.

bio-chem · 04-03-2009, 09:02 PM

chris simms will be the denver broncos starting quarterback

the nut · 04-03-2009, 10:35 PM

Fuck Brian Xanders! Fuck Josh McDaniels for ever letting this happen.....

There never should have been any talk about Matt Cassel. Who wants this fucking guy? Tyler Thigpen will be starting for the Chief's by the end of the year!

Fuck Pat Bowlen.....

Let's fire Mike Shanahan, a proven head coach and offensive mastermind, and bring in a young coach that can only hope to do as well as Shanahan! I know, Romeo and Mangini have shown how Bellichek assistants are great head coaches and leaders!

He's been through this shit before with Elway and Reeves, and kept the QB and look what happened..... 2 Super Bowls.

Fuck Jay Cutler.....

Show up, lead your team in workouts, hear what this guy has to say, and if they don't want you, go to Chicago with some pride. Then sit back and watch Orton hears a Hoo and Mayor McCheese lead the Broncos to the 4 - 12.

Fucking millions of dollars and they ruin shit over a dick measuring contest!

Anyone wanna buy 2 tickets Giants - Denver, Thanksgiving night!

FUCK!

the nut · 04-03-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifuge

I'm torn about this.
The Bears can definitely use Cutler in the QB slot, but then again, I think Orton was developing nicely. His biggest flaw is staring down his receiver. Once he conquers that, I think he'll become a solid quarterback.

They just became they clear favorite in the central, and should be competing for a NFC championship this year. Wide receiver might be there only hole. Defense, special teams (kicking and return game), running game, and a top 5 QB now. Why wouldn't the Bears be pysched?

the nut · 04-03-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Maybe he will do good for the Bears, but he did not do shit for the Broncos.

You are out of your mind if you think he was the problem with the broncos. You actually think they would be competing without him last year?

**IainDaniel** · 04-04-2009, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Maybe he will do good for the Bears, but he did not do shit for the Broncos.

What did shit for the broncos was there atrocious defense.

I don't understand why you come in and fuck with one of the best offenses in the league.

**I Are Baboon** · 04-04-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by the nut

Fuck Brian Xanders! Fuck Josh McDaniels for ever letting this happen.....

There never should have been any talk about Matt Cassel. Who wants this fucking guy? Tyler Thigpen will be starting for the Chief's by the end of the year!

Fuck Pat Bowlen.....

Let's fire Mike Shanahan, a proven head coach and offensive mastermind, and bring in a young coach that can only hope to do as well as Shanahan! I know, Romeo and Mangini have shown how Bellichek assistants are great head coaches and leaders!

He's been through this shit before with Elway and Reeves, and kept the QB and look what happened..... 2 Super Bowls.

Fuck Jay Cutler.....

Show up, lead your team in workouts, hear what this guy has to say, and if they don't want you, go to Chicago with some pride. Then sit back and watch Orton hears a Hoo and Mayor McCheese lead the Broncos to the 4 - 12.

Fucking millions of dollars and they ruin shit over a dick measuring contest!

Anyone wanna buy 2 tickets Giants - Denver, Thanksgiving night!

FUCK!

That's a solid vent right there.

**Dale Mabry** · 04-04-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

I think some people here are letting their personal feelings about Jay Cutler cloud the facts here.

He's a HUGE improvement at QB for the Bears and probably the best QB they've landed in 30 or 40 years. The Bears were already a playoff contender with their defense, and now they are adding a Pro Bowl QB to the offense.

I don't get these people saying the Broncos got the better of this trade. The NFL draft is a hit or miss. 50% of players drafted don't amount to shit.

Unless they upgrade the O-line, Cutler is screwed, he is a long ball QB who needs time. Forte is awesome, and a decent receiver who can get open quick will help, but Cutler has a slow release, and even with time, throws a ton of interceptions.

With a decent O-line Orton can play the dink and dunk Pats offense, especially with Royal and Marshall. What is Devin Hester going to do in the passing game? Is he even 5 feet tall?

I think the Bears will have the better record next year, but the Broncos are matched up against the NFC East/AFC South and the Pats/Colts. The Bears play the Eagles, Steelers, Ravens, and a slew of JV teams. In 2 years, the Broncos will be solid.

the nut · 04-04-2009, 01:30 PM

Give Cutler a running game in Chicago and he'll move the ball around. Denver blocking scheme and talent are not what they used to be, and lets not forget the 5 injuries to running backs. Anybody think Peyton Hillis would have been their starting back late in the season? I see Olson and Forte catching some balls next year.

I was intially hot about the hiring of McDaniels, I wanted Spags with a passion. But I got over it, for a little while. Then to hear that a first year head coach, and their first year GM come in and figured somewhere in their minds that the Matt Cassel was right fit for this team is crazy. You have a Pro Bowl qb, and an offense, that when healthy, is pretty damn good. Don't you want to build around that? I realize he plans on taping the opponents side line for an advantage, but that will only go so far!

I am happy with them signing Dawkins, Arrington, Buckholter, and Gaffney, but if they kept Cutler these players mean that much more immeadiately. There were 2, maybe 3 games last year that Cutler couldn't get much done, and I expect that from a young QB.

I have to expect they will go heavy defense in the draft, and maybe some O-line. If Chris Simms is the starting QB for the Broncos, I'm gonna lose my shit!

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

What did shit for the broncos was there atrocious defense.

I don't understand why you come in and fuck with one of the best offenses in the league.

More specifically, their second half defense!

lucifuge · 04-06-2009, 09:33 PM

The Bears offensive line is not the greatest.. I think there's three new lineman this year. Add that to not really having a wide out, and Cutler's effectiveness drops off dramatically. Forte and Olsen are going to be his best friends.
Hester's fast as hell, but he only catches about 50% of the passes thrown to him... if he even realizes the ball's in the air. There was a game last year that he was wide open in a full sprint and he didn't even look for the ball until after it had bounced off his shoulder.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a Bears fan all the way. Cutler's a nice addition, and I hope he can live up to the expectations. It'd be nice to have the Bears in real contention again... without having to depend completely on defense & special teams.

StuckInBako · 04-09-2009, 11:46 PM

We upgraded our o line some with the addition of Pace the same day we got Cutler, did no one notice. And we had a first round o lineman out for most of the year that played well at the end. He will be healthy and improved this year. I know are line will be much better this year.

We need to add a solid reciever and we will go far this year.

the nut · 04-26-2009, 09:10 PM

Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox, Derek Kinder all taken by the Bears. They are some potential weapons. Iglesias has no fear and good hands. I believe he'll be the #1 in no time. Knox is a burner and Kinder has Boldin size and build. Not bad.

lnvanry · 04-26-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by StuckInBako

We upgraded our o line some with the addition of Pace the same day we got Cutler, did no one notice. And we had a first round o lineman out for most of the year that played well at the end. He will be healthy and improved this year. I know are line will be much better this year.

We need to add a solid reciever and we will go far this year.

lucifuge · 04-27-2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by the nut

Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox, Derek Kinder all taken by the Bears. They are some potential weapons. Iglesias has no fear and good hands. I believe he'll be the #1 in no time. Knox is a burner and Kinder has Boldin size and build. Not bad.

Yep, I am soooo looking forward to season start!
Go Bears!

04-03-2009, 10:35 PM	#67
the nut And the winner is...... Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Quahog, RI Posts: 2,258 Photos: 6	Bullshit! Fuck Brian Xanders! Fuck Josh McDaniels for ever letting this happen..... There never should have been any talk about Matt Cassel. Who wants this fucking guy? Tyler Thigpen will be starting for the Chief's by the end of the year! Fuck Pat Bowlen..... Let's fire Mike Shanahan, a proven head coach and offensive mastermind, and bring in a young coach that can only hope to do as well as Shanahan! I know, Romeo and Mangini have shown how Bellichek assistants are great head coaches and leaders! He's been through this shit before with Elway and Reeves, and kept the QB and look what happened..... 2 Super Bowls. Fuck Jay Cutler..... Show up, lead your team in workouts, hear what this guy has to say, and if they don't want you, go to Chicago with some pride. Then sit back and watch Orton hears a Hoo and Mayor McCheese lead the Broncos to the 4 - 12. Fucking millions of dollars and they ruin shit over a dick measuring contest! Anyone wanna buy 2 tickets Giants - Denver, Thanksgiving night! FUCK! *I hope that donkey doesn't have a heinie troll!*

04-26-2009, 09:10 PM	#76
the nut And the winner is...... Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Quahog, RI Posts: 2,258 Photos: 6	Juaquin Iglesias, Johnny Knox, Derek Kinder all taken by the Bears. They are some potential weapons. Iglesias has no fear and good hands. I believe he'll be the #1 in no time. Knox is a burner and Kinder has Boldin size and build. Not bad. *I hope that donkey doesn't have a heinie troll!*

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04-03-2009, 05:44 PM	#63
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	17-20 career record??? He's way over rated.

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lucifuge 100 Proof Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 1,472 Photos: 14	I'm torn about this. The Bears can definitely use Cutler in the QB slot, but then again, I think Orton was developing nicely. His biggest flaw is staring down his receiver. Once he conquers that, I think he'll become a solid quarterback.

04-06-2009, 09:33 PM	#74
lucifuge 100 Proof Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 1,472 Photos: 14	The Bears offensive line is not the greatest.. I think there's three new lineman this year. Add that to not really having a wide out, and Cutler's effectiveness drops off dramatically. Forte and Olsen are going to be his best friends. Hester's fast as hell, but he only catches about 50% of the passes thrown to him... if he even realizes the ball's in the air. There was a game last year that he was wide open in a full sprint and he didn't even look for the ball until after it had bounced off his shoulder. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Bears fan all the way. Cutler's a nice addition, and I hope he can live up to the expectations. It'd be nice to have the Bears in real contention again... without having to depend completely on defense & special teams.

04-09-2009, 11:46 PM	#75
StuckInBako Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bakersfield CA Posts: 168	We upgraded our o line some with the addition of Pace the same day we got Cutler, did no one notice. And we had a first round o lineman out for most of the year that played well at the end. He will be healthy and improved this year. I know are line will be much better this year. We need to add a solid reciever and we will go far this year.