"He's an a-----e himself. A complete a-----e," Gaston

min0 lee · 04-02-2009, 06:53 PM

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Cito Gaston has sharp words for Roger Clemens
Book on Clemens says he pushed Jays to fire Gaston in '97
April 02, 2009
MORGAN CAMPBELL
SPORTS REPORTER
LAKELAND, Fla.–The daily meeting between the media and Jays' manager Cito Gaston was dying down when one reporter asked what Gaston thought about allegations made in a new book about disgraced pitcher Roger Clemens.

In his book The Rocket That Fell to Earth, author Jeff Pearlman says Clemens, who arrived in Toronto the same season the Jays fired Gaston as manager, influenced the club to bring in Gaston's replacement, Tim Johnson.

Gaston, it turns out, hadn't heard the news, but it's not like hearing it changed his image of Clemens. That's been entrenched for more than a decade.

"He's an a-----e himself. A complete a-----e," Gaston said with a chuckle. "And I'll say that loud, right in his face. It was all about him. Ain't about nobody else but him."

For the next five minutes Gaston, who is starting his first full season in his second stint as Jays' manager detailed the strained relationship with the star pitcher, who had signed with the Jays before the 1997 season after burning out with the Boston Red Sox.

Gaston praised Clemens for his work on the mound, saying the 354-game winner always gave his best effort on days he pitched, winning 41 games and two Cy Young Awards as the AL's top pitcher in two seasons with the Blue Jays. But for the four days in between starts, Gaston said he couldn't deal with the seven-time Cy Young Award winner.

"When he's pitching, everyone's in the dugout pulling for him, but when he's not pitching he's not in the dugout," Gaston said. "I didn't feel like he supported his teammates as much as he wanted support."

Though Gaston said he didn't know of anything specific Clemens did to get him fired, he said Clemens did flaunt his influence with the club's upper management, even asking Gaston if he wanted to keep his job as manager or lose it.

He also challenged Gaston's authority in front of the team, once questioning the manager's refusal to pull Pat Hentgen from a game. Gaston says Clemens never brought those criticisms to his face, and he regrets not confronting him over it.

"He wouldn't (confront me). One of us would have had an ass whuppin' that day," Gaston said. "It might have been me, but he still would have known I was there."

**IainDaniel** · 04-03-2009, 07:31 AM

Wow what an ass-hat...

Clemens was my boyhood idol.

Sad to see the reality of him.

min0 lee · 04-03-2009, 03:52 PM

Although he is past his prime you can always root for Jeter.

**IainDaniel** · 04-04-2009, 06:25 AM

I don't root for below average fielders

soxmuscle · 04-04-2009, 10:10 AM

This shouldn't be news to anybody.

Roger Clemens always has and always will be a complete fucking jerk off.

As far as Jeter goes, Min0 - it's mind boggling to me just how wrong you are about Jeter. The constant jokes in his regard just show that you disagree entirely with my opinion of him and believe, just like the majority of dumb ass Yankee fans, that Derek Jeter!!! is the same player he once was. It's too bad, because I thought you were truly a knowledgeable sports fan.

Again, I can't wait for this season. I love that quote from the Yankee thread, "he's lost his range, but he can at least do his patented Yankee jump step."

Haha.

I'm bias as well, so I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think I've ever been so adament about something so wrong since back years ago in grade school when I believed that Antoine Walker and Paul Pierce was the best duo in basketball.

min0 lee · 04-04-2009, 10:20 AM

I know he's not that great but I do have to defend him.
He did us Yankee fans good and as long as he plays I will root for him to do good.

It is hard to root for all of your team but you ttry.

Funny, but I could never get into Roger when he was a Yankee.
I didn't like Sheffield at all.

min0 lee · 04-04-2009, 10:21 AM

Pena looks so good at short, I like his defense!

soxmuscle · 04-04-2009, 10:25 AM

Don't get me wrong, rooting for him and giving him the benefit of the doubt is the right thing to do as a fan of the Yankees.

For instance, it took a World Series and about a year and a half to drop my defense of the Nomar Garciaparra trade.

You grow up watching these guys and you never want to fault them.

I understand completely.

Thing is, over the last three seasons Jeter has declined from a 900 OPS to an .840 to a .771; you better hope that figure doesn't decline more because if it does, combined with the way he plays defense at short stop, they'll be forced to change positions sooner than they thought.

soxmuscle · 04-04-2009, 10:26 AM

I understand it.

It's hard to root for notorious ass clowns who demonstrate why that's the general consensus about them on a regular basis.

soxmuscle · 04-04-2009, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Pena looks so good at short, I like his defense!

Manny Alexander Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

min0 lee · 04-04-2009, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Thing is, over the last three seasons Jeter has declined from a 900 OPS to an .840 to a .771; you better hope that figure doesn't decline more because if it does, combined with the way he plays defense at short stop, they'll be forced to change positions sooner than they thought.

Trust me, they know. You can't go and say things about your captain to the press. 2 years max....he is 35 and SS is very demanding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Manny Alexander Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

I don't get it?

04-02-2009, 06:53 PM	#1
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	"He's an a-----e himself. A complete a-----e," Gaston TheStar.com \| Sports \| Cito Gaston has sharp words for Roger Clemens Cito Gaston has sharp words for Roger Clemens Book on Clemens says he pushed Jays to fire Gaston in '97 April 02, 2009 MORGAN CAMPBELL SPORTS REPORTER LAKELAND, Fla.–The daily meeting between the media and Jays' manager Cito Gaston was dying down when one reporter asked what Gaston thought about allegations made in a new book about disgraced pitcher Roger Clemens. In his book The Rocket That Fell to Earth, author Jeff Pearlman says Clemens, who arrived in Toronto the same season the Jays fired Gaston as manager, influenced the club to bring in Gaston's replacement, Tim Johnson. Gaston, it turns out, hadn't heard the news, but it's not like hearing it changed his image of Clemens. That's been entrenched for more than a decade. "He's an a-----e himself. A complete a-----e," Gaston said with a chuckle. "And I'll say that loud, right in his face. It was all about him. Ain't about nobody else but him." For the next five minutes Gaston, who is starting his first full season in his second stint as Jays' manager detailed the strained relationship with the star pitcher, who had signed with the Jays before the 1997 season after burning out with the Boston Red Sox. Gaston praised Clemens for his work on the mound, saying the 354-game winner always gave his best effort on days he pitched, winning 41 games and two Cy Young Awards as the AL's top pitcher in two seasons with the Blue Jays. But for the four days in between starts, Gaston said he couldn't deal with the seven-time Cy Young Award winner. "When he's pitching, everyone's in the dugout pulling for him, but when he's not pitching he's not in the dugout," Gaston said. "I didn't feel like he supported his teammates as much as he wanted support." Though Gaston said he didn't know of anything specific Clemens did to get him fired, he said Clemens did flaunt his influence with the club's upper management, even asking Gaston if he wanted to keep his job as manager or lose it. He also challenged Gaston's authority in front of the team, once questioning the manager's refusal to pull Pat Hentgen from a game. Gaston says Clemens never brought those criticisms to his face, and he regrets not confronting him over it. "He wouldn't (confront me). One of us would have had an ass whuppin' that day," Gaston said. "It might have been me, but he still would have known I was there." How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

04-03-2009, 07:31 AM	#2
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,545	Wow what an ass-hat... Clemens was my boyhood idol. Sad to see the reality of him. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

04-03-2009, 03:52 PM	#3
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	Although he is past his prime you can always root for Jeter. How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

04-04-2009, 06:25 AM	#4
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,545	I don't root for below average fielders Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

04-04-2009, 10:10 AM	#5
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 10,045 Photos: 10	This shouldn't be news to anybody. Roger Clemens always has and always will be a complete fucking jerk off. As far as Jeter goes, Min0 - it's mind boggling to me just how wrong you are about Jeter. The constant jokes in his regard just show that you disagree entirely with my opinion of him and believe, just like the majority of dumb ass Yankee fans, that Derek Jeter!!! is the same player he once was. It's too bad, because I thought you were truly a knowledgeable sports fan. Again, I can't wait for this season. I love that quote from the Yankee thread, "he's lost his range, but he can at least do his patented Yankee jump step." Haha. I'm bias as well, so I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think I've ever been so adament about something so wrong since back years ago in grade school when I believed that Antoine Walker and Paul Pierce was the best duo in basketball. Age: 20 \| Height: 5'7" \| Weight: 150 lbs \| Penis: 12 inches

04-04-2009, 10:20 AM	#6
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	I know he's not that great but I do have to defend him. He did us Yankee fans good and as long as he plays I will root for him to do good. It is hard to root for all of your team but you ttry. Funny, but I could never get into Roger when he was a Yankee. I didn't like Sheffield at all. How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

04-04-2009, 10:21 AM	#7
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	Pena looks so good at short, I like his defense! How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

04-04-2009, 10:25 AM	#8
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 10,045 Photos: 10	Don't get me wrong, rooting for him and giving him the benefit of the doubt is the right thing to do as a fan of the Yankees. For instance, it took a World Series and about a year and a half to drop my defense of the Nomar Garciaparra trade. You grow up watching these guys and you never want to fault them. I understand completely. Thing is, over the last three seasons Jeter has declined from a 900 OPS to an .840 to a .771; you better hope that figure doesn't decline more because if it does, combined with the way he plays defense at short stop, they'll be forced to change positions sooner than they thought. Age: 20 \| Height: 5'7" \| Weight: 150 lbs \| Penis: 12 inches

04-04-2009, 10:26 AM	#9
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 10,045 Photos: 10	I understand it. It's hard to root for notorious ass clowns who demonstrate why that's the general consensus about them on a regular basis. Age: 20 \| Height: 5'7" \| Weight: 150 lbs \| Penis: 12 inches

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