2009 Boston Red Sox

min0 lee · 08-25-2009, 07:50 AM

Who won?

He's a former Yankee with a great arm but screwed up head.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-25-2009, 09:41 AM

Sox won 12-8. Clay Buchholz got knocked around again. Good thing the Sox held onto that guy at the trade deadline.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-26-2009, 06:46 AM

Red Sox are unbeaten since acquiring Billy Wagner.

Triple Threat · 08-26-2009, 06:47 AM

He's made quite a difference in their bullpen.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-27-2009, 07:17 AM

**I Are Baboon** · 08-27-2009, 07:27 AM

Hard to believe that as much as Ortiz has struggled this year, he's actually on pace for 30 HR and 100 RBI. That's a pretty good "bad year."

**IainDaniel** · 08-27-2009, 07:52 AM

He has been better since he found a new steroid supplier.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-27-2009, 07:58 AM

I wish he would have found one sooner.

**IainDaniel** · 08-27-2009, 08:03 AM

He needs to share his new source with Manny now.

soxmuscle · 08-27-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Sox won 12-8. Clay Buchholz got knocked around again. Good thing the Sox held onto that guy at the trade deadline.

Buchholz has been pretty solid over his last 4-5 starts.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-27-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Buchholz has been pretty solid over his last 4-5 starts.

In 2 of list last 5 starts he hasn't gotten past the 5th inning.

Clay Buchholz Game Log - ESPN

The three starts in between though....yes, much better.

**IainDaniel** · 08-27-2009, 09:04 AM

He looked awesome against the Jays.... though that ain't saying much

soxmuscle · 08-27-2009, 09:04 AM

Brad Penny asked for and was granted his release with the corresponding roster move being the addition of Billy Wagner to the bullpen.

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Veteran right-hander Brad Penny requested and received his release tonight in a move that clears a roster spot for reliever Billy Wagner and gives Penny time to join a new team before postseason rosters are set.

“I asked for my release and I got it,” Penny said.

Speaking after last night’s 3-2 victory over the White Sox, Penny thanked the Red Sox for taking a chance on him.

“I enjoyed playing with all of the guys,” he said. “I played for a great manager on a great team. I had a great time. I enjoyed it. I wish things had worked out better, but that happens.”

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I had some bad breaks and made some bad pitches,” he said. “But I’m healthy, and that’s what I’m happy about. This isn’t last year, when I was hurt. If that had been the case, I’d be upset.

“All in all I had a great time here. My shoulder is healthy and I’m glad I came here. It was a blessing.”

Class act.

Is there really a doubt in anybody's mind that he'll go back to a National League contender (my guess = Colorado) and be successful?

soxmuscle · 08-27-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

In 2 of list last 5 starts he hasn't gotten past the 5th inning.

Clay Buchholz Game Log - ESPN

The three starts in between though....yes, much better.

I should have expanded.

In his last four starts, he's been pretty darn good.

Fundamentally in his most recent start the other night against the White Sox, he pitched alright. It was one of the better 7-run outings you can have and was two mistakes away from it being a two run/5+ inning performance.

I'm more on his side now than I have been in the past because every Red Sox fan and their mother continues to rag on the guy from pitch to pitch and start to start and it isn't fair.

Yes, he's 25 and should be more of the pitcher he was projected to be but sometimes players take longer to find their niche than others and I full on believe that's the case with Clay.

Trading him and a plethora of others for Roy Halladay wasn't the right deal to make and to be honest, the Jays will most likely fire J.P. Ricciardi (somewhat) as a result.

The Red Sox are good enough to make the playoffs and while it would be hard rationalizing developing his repertoire in the Majors in the midst of a playoff hunt, they don't have any other options. Buchholz (and Tazawa for that matter) are better options than both Smoltz and Penny who simply didn't have what it takes to be successful in the AL East.

Triple Threat · 08-27-2009, 10:31 AM

Part of the "problem" with Buchholz is that he threw that no-hitter, and since then everyone seems to think he should be an ace.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-27-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat

Part of the "problem" with Buchholz is that he threw that no-hitter, and since then everyone seems to think he should be an ace.

He's been projected as a #1 or 2 starter since the day he was drafted. That's why everyone thinks he should be an ace. Though, most Red Sox fans understand that he is still developing. Very few pitchers develop into an ace after only a few ML seasons.

soxmuscle · 08-27-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

They gave Boston a soft schedule to end the season.

There are arguments to be made about every teams schedule.

Having a warm weather team play in the middle of winter in Boston or New York is just dumb.

min0 lee · 08-27-2009, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Brad Penny asked for and was granted his release with the corresponding roster move being the addition of Billy Wagner to the bullpen.

Class act.

Is there really a doubt in anybody's mind that he'll go back to a National League contender (my guess = Colorado) and be successful?

Wow...the Mets could use a pitcher.

soxmuscle · 08-27-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Wow...the Mets could use a pitcher.

Keyword being "contender."

min0 lee · 08-27-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Keyword being "contender."

**I Are Baboon** · 09-02-2009, 06:22 AM

Tough loss for the Rays last night. They really needed to sweep Boston to put a dent in that Wild Card lead.

**I Are Baboon** · 09-03-2009, 06:29 AM

So Brad Penny throws eight shutout innings last night.

Further proof that the NL sucks.

Triple Threat · 09-03-2009, 11:26 AM

I was thinking the same thing. First Smoltz, now Penny. Sort of puts a damper on Cliff Lee's recent performances for Philly.

min0 lee · 09-03-2009, 03:32 PM

The NL is a weaker league.

Triple Threat · 09-03-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

The NL is a weaker league.

Cue Malley.

**I Are Baboon** · 09-14-2009, 11:30 AM

The Sox are really starting to come together. The additions of Clay Buchholz to the rotation, Billy Wagner to the bullpen, and Victor Martinez to the middle of the lineup have been huge, plus Josh Beckett seems to be getting his crap back together. That was wasn't just a sweep of Tampa...it was completely one sided.

Hold on to your pants: With good pitching, Red Sox getting ready to roll - Red Sox Monster

min0 lee · 09-15-2009, 06:07 PM

How's Billy been doing in the pen?

**I Are Baboon** · 09-15-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

How's Billy been doing in the pen?

Freaking ROCK SOLID! Averaging like two strikeouts per inning. I know his goal in coming to Boston was to up his free agent value, and he is doing that. Complete 180 from the disaster that was Eric "ROID" Gagne.

min0 lee · 09-15-2009, 06:33 PM

He was good in NY.

**I Are Baboon** · 09-15-2009, 06:36 PM

It's funny, when Gagne would come into a game, we'd be like "Oh shit, here we go.." But with Wagner, it's like "COOL...inning over."

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08-27-2009, 08:03 AM	#249
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08-27-2009, 09:04 AM	#252
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	He looked awesome against the Jays.... though that ain't saying much Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

09-03-2009, 03:32 PM	#264
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08-25-2009, 09:41 AM	#242
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Sox won 12-8. Clay Buchholz got knocked around again. Good thing the Sox held onto that guy at the trade deadline.

08-26-2009, 06:46 AM	#243
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Red Sox are unbeaten since acquiring Billy Wagner.

08-26-2009, 06:47 AM	#244
Triple Threat End of the world Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 10,444 Photos: 6	He's made quite a difference in their bullpen.

08-27-2009, 07:17 AM	#245
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08-27-2009, 07:27 AM	#246
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Hard to believe that as much as Ortiz has struggled this year, he's actually on pace for 30 HR and 100 RBI. That's a pretty good "bad year."

08-27-2009, 07:58 AM	#248
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	I wish he would have found one sooner.

08-27-2009, 10:31 AM	#255
Triple Threat End of the world Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 10,444 Photos: 6	Part of the "problem" with Buchholz is that he threw that no-hitter, and since then everyone seems to think he should be an ace.

09-02-2009, 06:22 AM	#261
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Tough loss for the Rays last night. They really needed to sweep Boston to put a dent in that Wild Card lead.

09-03-2009, 06:29 AM	#262
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	So Brad Penny throws eight shutout innings last night. Further proof that the NL sucks.

09-03-2009, 11:26 AM	#263
Triple Threat End of the world Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 10,444 Photos: 6	I was thinking the same thing. First Smoltz, now Penny. Sort of puts a damper on Cliff Lee's recent performances for Philly.

09-14-2009, 11:30 AM	#266
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	The Sox are really starting to come together. The additions of Clay Buchholz to the rotation, Billy Wagner to the bullpen, and Victor Martinez to the middle of the lineup have been huge, plus Josh Beckett seems to be getting his crap back together. That was wasn't just a sweep of Tampa...it was completely one sided. Hold on to your pants: With good pitching, Red Sox getting ready to roll - Red Sox Monster

09-15-2009, 06:07 PM	#267
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09-15-2009, 06:33 PM	#269
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09-15-2009, 06:36 PM	#270
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	It's funny, when Gagne would come into a game, we'd be like "Oh shit, here we go.." But with Wagner, it's like "COOL...inning over."

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