This isn't an "Article" it's an Advertisment.

Trump · 07-17-2003, 07:37 AM

http://www.ironmagazine.com/modules....article&sid=43

I found it clever, but damn annoying.

**Prince** · 07-17-2003, 10:01 AM

Yes, you're correct.

It's a great book, 383 pages and well worth the $39.00

Plus, you get 3 extra bonus articles, and much more.

If you want a sample of Tom's work go here and download the FREE ebook, also I am now posting some of Tom's full length articles on the main site, there is one up now and I have another that will be up August 1.

butterfly · 07-17-2003, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trump
http://www.ironmagazine.com/modules....article&sid=43

I found it clever, but damn annoying.

It's Prince's site... he can put up anything he wants

Besides, he's not in the habit of recommending things that aren't top notch

Trump · 07-17-2003, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by butterfly
It's Prince's site... he can put up anything he wants

Yea, just offering the suggestion that posing the advertisement as an 'Article' is frustrating to his viewers.

Quote:

Originally posted by butterfly
Besides, he's not in the habit of recommending things that aren't top notch

I guess....

**Mudge** · 07-17-2003, 06:26 PM

Realize these people pay for forums out of thier own pocket, minus what small amounts advertising pays back.

I know a guy who gets a DISCOUNT service (text transfer alone is 4GB a day compressed, from 15GB not compressed - binary has to be at least that much, lots of pix), he pays roughly $900 a month out of his OWN POCKET to run the site, he is running a new bunch of hardware that cost about $6,000 to put together, previous setup probably cost the same when he put those 6 servers together. 22 years old, pays for the whole thing out of his own pocket.

In short, its not our site, we either like it and stay, or we dont.

Trump · 07-17-2003, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Realize these people pay for forums out of thier own pocket, minus what small amounts advertising pays back.

I know a guy who gets a DISCOUNT service (text transfer alone is 4GB a day compressed, from 15GB not compressed - binary has to be at least that much, lots of pix), he pays roughly $900 a month out of his OWN POCKET to run the site, he is running a new bunch of hardware that cost about $6,000 to put together, previous setup probably cost the same when he put those 6 servers together. 22 years old, pays for the whole thing out of his own pocket.

In short, its not our site, we either like it and stay, or we dont.

I help run a site with 40k+ members that averages 5-6M impressions a month. I know of the cost of running a site.

I was merely suggesting the fact that an advertisment posed as an article wasn't good practice.

Just tried to help. I hope prince can understand where I am coming from, no hard feelings.

**Mudge** · 07-19-2003, 11:58 AM

I'm sure any and all feedback is welcome

Almost all advertisements it seems like in the magazines are "this way" (BB wise anyway), 5 page ad full color telling you about thier breakthrough new product yada yada. If there is actual science behind it I dont mind, but all too often people use the guise of science to show bias towards unlrealistic outcomes.

**Prince** · 07-19-2003, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trump
I help run a site with 40k+ members that averages 5-6M impressions a month. I know of the cost of running a site.

really, which one?

jeffreySyoung · 08-21-2003, 08:10 AM

And the book is top-notch. I bought it, read it, and was enlightened.

BFFM

Trump · 08-21-2003, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reefkeeper23
And the book is top-notch. I bought it, read it, and was enlightened.

BFFM

PIF?

jeffreySyoung · 08-21-2003, 09:23 AM

well, maybe not enlightened, but it is a good book, and it makes a lot of sense.

BTW, what's "PIF"?

**Mudge** · 09-01-2003, 10:47 PM

Program Information File?

I dont know what it might mean in internet chat...

Trump · 09-03-2003, 12:00 PM

07-17-2003, 07:37 AM	#1
Trump Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 293	This isn't an "Article" it's an Advertisment. BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com http://www.ironmagazine.com/modules....article&sid=43 I found it clever, but damn annoying.
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07-17-2003, 10:01 AM	#2
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,195 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	Yes, you're correct. It's a great book, 383 pages and well worth the $39.00 Plus, you get 3 extra bonus articles, and much more. If you want a sample of Tom's work go here and download the FREE ebook, also I am now posting some of Tom's full length articles on the main site, there is one up now and I have another that will be up August 1.
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07-17-2003, 06:26 PM	#5
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,946 Photos: 1	Realize these people pay for forums out of thier own pocket, minus what small amounts advertising pays back. I know a guy who gets a DISCOUNT service (text transfer alone is 4GB a day compressed, from 15GB not compressed - binary has to be at least that much, lots of pix), he pays roughly $900 a month out of his OWN POCKET to run the site, he is running a new bunch of hardware that cost about $6,000 to put together, previous setup probably cost the same when he put those 6 servers together. 22 years old, pays for the whole thing out of his own pocket. In short, its not our site, we either like it and stay, or we dont.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

07-19-2003, 11:58 AM	#7
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,946 Photos: 1	I'm sure any and all feedback is welcome Almost all advertisements it seems like in the magazines are "this way" (BB wise anyway), 5 page ad full color telling you about thier breakthrough new product yada yada. If there is actual science behind it I dont mind, but all too often people use the guise of science to show bias towards unlrealistic outcomes.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-01-2003, 10:47 PM	#12
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,946 Photos: 1	Program Information File? I dont know what it might mean in internet chat...
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

08-21-2003, 08:10 AM	#9
jeffreySyoung New Year, New Start Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: South Jersey Posts: 60	And the book is top-notch. I bought it, read it, and was enlightened. BFFM

08-21-2003, 09:23 AM	#11
jeffreySyoung New Year, New Start Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: South Jersey Posts: 60	well, maybe not enlightened, but it is a good book, and it makes a lot of sense. BTW, what's "PIF"?

09-03-2003, 12:00 PM	#13
Trump Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States Posts: 293
	"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great."

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