Forum hospitality

motopsyko32 · 09-09-2006, 07:47 PM

I am a member on MANY forums. (yes I have a lot of time on my hands). Why is it whenever a noob asks a question here (no matter how stupid it may be or how serious it may be) they always get like 20 sarcastic, stupid remarks before someone actually answers the question?

TJ Cline · 09-09-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by motopsyko32

I am a member on MANY forums. (yes I have a lot of time on my hands). Why is it whenever a noob asks a question here (no matter how stupid it may be or how serious it may be) they always get like 20 sarcastic, stupid remarks before someone actually answers the question?

min0 lee · 09-09-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by motopsyko32

I am a member on MANY forums. (yes I have a lot of time on my hands). Why is it whenever a noob asks a question here (no matter how stupid it may be or how serious it may be) they always get like 20 sarcastic, stupid remarks before someone actually answers the question?

I see that in other forums also. At least you get a response here, some other places won't even aknowlege you.

Double D · 09-09-2006, 07:51 PM

There are plenty of remarks here, but thats what makes this place. Without it things would be dull. Who cares. If people cant take a little sarcasim then leave.

motopsyko32 · 09-09-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

There are plenty of remarks here, but thats what makes this place. Without it things would be dull. Who cares. If people cant take a little sarcasim then leave.

its not about taking sarcasm. If I ask "I feel this way after taking this suplement, anyone else experience this" and the first 4 replies are about how stupid I am for buying the product, then its not a "little sarcasm"

min0 lee · 09-09-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

There are plenty of remarks here, but thats what makes this place. Without it things would be dull. Who cares. If people cant take a little sarcasim then leave.

min0 lee · 09-09-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by motopsyko32

its not about taking sarcasm. If I ask "I feel this way after taking this suplement, anyone else experience this" and the first 4 replies are about how stupid I am for buying the product, then its not a "little sarcasm"

A gang bang, pulled a train.....

Bakerboy · 09-09-2006, 07:58 PM

It's simple. It's because everyone on this site is either a dumbf@#k or a smart ass and we all lack basic social skills.

Double D · 09-09-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakerboy

It's simple. It's because everyone on this site is either a dumbf@#k or a smart ass and we all lack basic social skills.

This is very true. From time to time you will get a huge jack-ass who will hit a nerve, but for the most part its all in good fun.

min0 lee · 09-09-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakerboy

It's simple. It's because everyone on this site is either a dumbf@#k or a smart ass and we all lack basic social skills.

Have we met.

Bakerboy · 09-09-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakerboy

It's simple. It's because everyone on this site is either a dumbf@#k or a smart ass and we all lack basic social skills.

I take that back; I'm the dumbf@#K.

GoalGetter · 09-09-2006, 08:23 PM

Truthfully - i agree with my brother, for the most part, many new members are met with sarcasm, jack-ass comments and occasionally hurtful comments that are very out of place to begin with. And more often than not, this kind of crap is doled out by the usual suspects - i don't even have to name names for you guys to know who they (you) are.

Double D · 09-09-2006, 08:26 PM

GG-Yes I do have to agree there are the usual suspects. There are a few members that we do have who contribute nothing but negative comments. However it makes IM not have the occasional smart comments. They are entertaining as long as they are not taken to far.

min0 lee · 09-09-2006, 08:29 PM

Who are these vagrants?

GoalGetter · 09-09-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

GG-Yes I do have to agree there are the usual suspects. There are a few members that we do have who contribute nothing but negative comments. However it makes IM not have the occasional smart comments. They are entertaining as long as they are not taken to far.

If it were up to me they wouldn't be here anymore - they rarely contribute anything useful and manage to piss of a bunch of people every day.

I think this website has an amazing amount of knowledgeable people and it is a great resource for people starting out in bodybuilding, strength training, fitness and healthy eating. But I hesitate to ever direct my clients or friends here because it is embarassing to have them sign on be met the way most members here are met upon arrival.

My brother comes in here, for the most part to get some help with his diet and he's trying to make an effort to get healthier along with his girlfriend. So he asks a bunch of typical noob questions, and the madness ensues, to no surprise. Sure he's made a few intentionally annoying posts (i take no responsibility and make no apologies - he's over 18! hahaha!) but his serious questions should not have to be subject to a bunch of dumbasses' sarcastic comments. Not just his - a bunch of other new members. I've been watching for a while now, and it's just pathetic.

Other than that one guy recently, who totally deserved to get ripped on because he came on here guns blazing, there is no reason to treat new members with such disrespect for asking a question that has been asked 478 times before.

Those who are rolling the eyes, and making the sarcastic comments were once noobs too, and I'm sure that if I search the site I can find THEIR dumb noob questions and send them a little reminder.

Double D · 09-09-2006, 08:42 PM

I'll be the first to say I have asked some dumb questions here before also and I took my lumps for it as well as the next. I agree that it has no place in areas such as training and nutrition and things of that nature. As far as an area as offtopic well thats completely different. That area seems to be there for anything and everything that can be tore apart and ripped on. that is not a serious place at all. Now I dont know where the thread starter posted and what was said, but if he indeed posted somewhere other than offtopic and was flammed, then I could see the problem.

min0 lee · 09-09-2006, 08:47 PM

Where are these posts. I rarely see a noob get flamed unless it's a spammer or a jerk.

TJ Cline · 09-09-2006, 08:53 PM

dumb noob questions

Most if not all here had them and that includes the Mods but not trouble or Rob.

GoalGetter · 09-09-2006, 09:00 PM

Oh i know for damn sure i've asked some dumb questions! Hahahaha! One of my "dumb" questions ended up with p-funk having to make room for my stuff in his apartment: "what do you eat after cardio workouts as opposed to weights workouts"

----

"why am i so bloated and gassy?" (i typed that with one hand, while using the other hand to stuff my face with sugar free ice cream, loaded with sugar alcohols famous for their 'laxative effect').

GoalGetter · 09-09-2006, 09:02 PM

And I'm sure that Trouble and Rob at SOME POINT in their lives didn't know everything and asked a dumb question somewhere in their histories. We just got the refined and educated versions of them by the time IronMagazine was conceived.

min0 lee · 09-09-2006, 09:03 PM

I try to treat the new guys with respect....most of the times at least.
I also leave the crap for open chat.....most of the times at least.

Double D · 09-09-2006, 09:07 PM

That is one thing I dont see very many times is guys posting BS in Training and Nutrition. If so its not vulgar or disrespectful.

min0 lee · 09-09-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

That is one thing I dont see very many times is guys posting BS in Training and Nutrition. If so its not vulgar or disrespectful.

That say's a lot about this place. It's not as bad as it's made out to be.
I've been to other sites and trust me I have more fun watching the master piece theater on PBS. Other places it's a free for all, and in another place you have guys ganging up on you.
When

Double D · 09-09-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

That say's a lot about this place. It's not as bad as it's made out to be.
I've been to other sites and trust me I have more fun watching the master piece theater on PBS. Other places it's a free for all, and in another place you have guys ganging up on you.
When

Thats right

Bakerboy · 09-09-2006, 09:13 PM

I think one of the reasons why, at times, people are overly sarcastic (at least in the training section) is because so many people ask a lot of the same stupid questions so when you hear the same exact question over and over again people get bored and sometimes go on the attack. Also, if someone asks a really l-o-n-g question the first time out and doesn't respect the fact that the Mods and members don't get a dime for their time. Or when noob's are rude to begin with before their ears are even wet. I ask dumb questions all the time but the great thing about IM is that even a dumb question gets at least one smart answer.

TJ Cline · 09-09-2006, 09:14 PM

Trouble knows all

TJ Cline · 09-09-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

That say's a lot about this place. It's not as bad as it's made out to be.
I've been to other sites and trust me I have more fun watching the master piece theater on PBS. Other places it's a free for all, and in another place you have guys ganging up on you.
When

boilermaker · 09-09-2006, 09:26 PM

I agree with you GG. The place for the nonsense is in the General Interest Forums. When I came here a year ago, I didn't know a single thing about eating properly or weight training. I was lucky enough to have a mod take me under her wing and teach me what to do. We did most of it through PM and my journal. But, don't you think that the mods that monitor the serious forums have the ultimate responsibilty of squashing the bs in the forums they moderate? I have seen plenty of "participation" from some mods (the worst violator is in an other form of training now). If it's a problem, why not just put an end to it by eliminating the bad comments and commentators outside of general interest?

Double D · 09-09-2006, 09:27 PM

BM-Well put.

min0 lee · 09-09-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Yes....

09-09-2006, 07:47 PM	#1
motopsyko32 Pinguo!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 327	Forum hospitality I am a member on MANY forums. (yes I have a lot of time on my hands). Why is it whenever a noob asks a question here (no matter how stupid it may be or how serious it may be) they always get like 20 sarcastic, stupid remarks before someone actually answers the question?

09-09-2006, 07:58 PM	#8
Bakerboy cat burglar Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: the city of champions Posts: 4,146 Photos: 3	It's simple. It's because everyone on this site is either a dumbf@#k or a smart ass and we all lack basic social skills. No strength within, no respect without - Kasmiri Proverb

09-09-2006, 08:29 PM	#14
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	Who are these vagrants? How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

09-09-2006, 08:47 PM	#17
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	Where are these posts. I rarely see a noob get flamed unless it's a spammer or a jerk. How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

09-09-2006, 09:03 PM	#21
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	I try to treat the new guys with respect....most of the times at least. I also leave the crap for open chat.....most of the times at least. How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

09-09-2006, 07:51 PM	#4
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	There are plenty of remarks here, but thats what makes this place. Without it things would be dull. Who cares. If people cant take a little sarcasim then leave.

09-09-2006, 08:23 PM	#12
GoalGetter is still around... Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,103	Truthfully - i agree with my brother, for the most part, many new members are met with sarcasm, jack-ass comments and occasionally hurtful comments that are very out of place to begin with. And more often than not, this kind of crap is doled out by the usual suspects - i don't even have to name names for you guys to know who they (you) are.

09-09-2006, 08:26 PM	#13
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	GG-Yes I do have to agree there are the usual suspects. There are a few members that we do have who contribute nothing but negative comments. However it makes IM not have the occasional smart comments. They are entertaining as long as they are not taken to far.

09-09-2006, 08:42 PM	#16
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	I'll be the first to say I have asked some dumb questions here before also and I took my lumps for it as well as the next. I agree that it has no place in areas such as training and nutrition and things of that nature. As far as an area as offtopic well thats completely different. That area seems to be there for anything and everything that can be tore apart and ripped on. that is not a serious place at all. Now I dont know where the thread starter posted and what was said, but if he indeed posted somewhere other than offtopic and was flammed, then I could see the problem.

09-09-2006, 08:53 PM	#18
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,545	dumb noob questions Most if not all here had them and that includes the Mods but not trouble or Rob.

09-09-2006, 09:00 PM	#19
GoalGetter is still around... Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,103	Oh i know for damn sure i've asked some dumb questions! Hahahaha! One of my "dumb" questions ended up with p-funk having to make room for my stuff in his apartment: "what do you eat after cardio workouts as opposed to weights workouts" ---- "why am i so bloated and gassy?" (i typed that with one hand, while using the other hand to stuff my face with sugar free ice cream, loaded with sugar alcohols famous for their 'laxative effect').

09-09-2006, 09:02 PM	#20
GoalGetter is still around... Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,103	And I'm sure that Trouble and Rob at SOME POINT in their lives didn't know everything and asked a dumb question somewhere in their histories. We just got the refined and educated versions of them by the time IronMagazine was conceived.

09-09-2006, 09:07 PM	#22
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	That is one thing I dont see very many times is guys posting BS in Training and Nutrition. If so its not vulgar or disrespectful.

09-09-2006, 09:13 PM	#25
Bakerboy cat burglar Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: the city of champions Posts: 4,146 Photos: 3	I think one of the reasons why, at times, people are overly sarcastic (at least in the training section) is because so many people ask a lot of the same stupid questions so when you hear the same exact question over and over again people get bored and sometimes go on the attack. Also, if someone asks a really l-o-n-g question the first time out and doesn't respect the fact that the Mods and members don't get a dime for their time. Or when noob's are rude to begin with before their ears are even wet. I ask dumb questions all the time but the great thing about IM is that even a dumb question gets at least one smart answer. No strength within, no respect without - Kasmiri Proverb

09-09-2006, 09:14 PM	#26
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,545	Trouble knows all

09-09-2006, 09:26 PM	#28
boilermaker On a Mission! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,291 Photos: 4	I agree with you GG. The place for the nonsense is in the General Interest Forums. When I came here a year ago, I didn't know a single thing about eating properly or weight training. I was lucky enough to have a mod take me under her wing and teach me what to do. We did most of it through PM and my journal. But, don't you think that the mods that monitor the serious forums have the ultimate responsibilty of squashing the bs in the forums they moderate? I have seen plenty of "participation" from some mods (the worst violator is in an other form of training now). If it's a problem, why not just put an end to it by eliminating the bad comments and commentators outside of general interest? My Journal: Are We Almost There Yet?

09-09-2006, 09:27 PM	#29
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	BM-Well put.

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