Bull Fcking Sht

Witmaster · 09-24-2008, 03:30 AM

So I fill out the online regestration the below listed link. I was going to purchase the ebook. Like an idiot, I assume, hey, it's an Ironmag sponsor. I can trust it.

Well today I find dozens of spam emails from Supplement companies I've never heard of in my email. Bull Fucking Shit. I should have known better.

lnvanry · 09-24-2008, 04:43 AM

not to sound like a prick bro, but how did you not expect that? Anytime you give any source your email, expect a few spams in the inbox. Thats why gmail is so nice...it filters the shit for you

DaMayor · 09-24-2008, 07:45 AM

You should've bought Lyle's book.

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witmaster

So I fill out the online regestration the below listed link. I was going to purchase the ebook. Like an idiot, I assume, hey, it's an Ironmag sponsor. I can trust it.

Well today I find dozens of spam emails from Supplement companies I've never heard of in my email. Bull Fucking Shit. I should have known better.

Tom Venuto is 100% against spam, so I find this EXTREMELY difficult to believe, not calling you a liar, but I would have to say Burn the Fat was not the source of your spam. I have been working with Tom for the past 5 years and that is not how he operates.

I plan to test this myself by creating a new email account and signing up for the e-course today, I will report back tomorrow in this thread.

I also plan on emailing Tom personally and passing this info on to him and I will report back his response.

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMayor

You should've bought Lyle's book.

he did not buy the BFFM ebook, he said that he signed up for the free 12 part e course that I have links for.

bio-chem · 09-24-2008, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

Tom Venuto is 100% against spam, so I find this EXTREMELY difficult to believe, not calling you a liar, but I would have to say Burn the Fat was not the source of your spam. I have been working with Tom for the past 5 years and that is not how he operates.

I plan to test this myself by creating a new email account and signing up for the e-course today, I will report back tomorrow in this thread.

I also plan on emailing Tom personally and passing this info on to him and I will report back his response.

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 09:07 AM

I just created a new email account and signed up for the 12 part e-course, so far I received the confirmation email, and then the first intro email after I confirmed my subscription.

I also sent an email off to Tom Venuto about this matter.

DaMayor · 09-24-2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

he did not buy the BFFM ebook, he said that he signed up for the free 12 part e course that I have links for.

ooOOOoH......

damn speed reading.

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 10:05 AM

here is a screen shot of my new test email account, as you can see there are two emails in it so far, the confirmation email and the intro email, I will post a screen shot tomorrow as well.

**IainDaniel** · 09-24-2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

here is a screen shot of my new test email account, as you can see there are two emails in it so far, the confirmation email and the intro email, I will post a screen shot tomorrow as well.

Gmail is pretty good at sorting out spam, though.

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Gmail is pretty good at sorting out spam, though.

yup, it will put it right in your spam box, all I use are Gmail accounts anymore, they don't block any emails, they just send it to spam, so if what he is saying is true tomorrow morning my spam box in this account should be full of crap. I am 99.9% sure there will be no spam in there tomorrow, but I take accusations like this seriously which is why I am going to this much trouble to prove him wrong.

**Built** · 09-24-2008, 11:23 AM

That's awesome, Prince - thank you so much for doing that.

bio-chem · 09-24-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

That's awesome, Prince - thank you so much for doing that.

agree or disagree with his views I've always though prince has a great business mind for taking care of his customers and putting out a quality product. thats probably why i get my creatine from here and will start to order my protein as soon as im out of my current tub

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 11:38 AM

thanks guys!

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 12:28 PM

FYI - one thing to add, if signing up does put your email on a mailing list it is via AWeber.com, that is the list manager being used.

Witmaster · 09-24-2008, 12:38 PM

Thank you for looking into this, Prince. I was probably a tad bit over zealous in my original post.

I honestly have no idea how my email address would have been hijacked by hack supplement companies.

If your test turns results in no spam that I'll have to assume I was wrong.

Strange though, the only thing I have done online with my email has been to register the 12-part series.

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witmaster

Thank you for looking into this, Prince. I was probably a tad bit over zealous in my original post.

I honestly have no idea how my email address would have been hijacked by hack supplement companies.

If your test turns results in no spam that I'll have to assume I was wrong.

Strange though, the only thing I have done online with my email has been to register the 12-part series.

after looking into it further and seeing that he is using Aweber its very possible that they "hijack" the email addresses, if so that is messed up...I will let you know what happens tomorrow. I know how "anti-spam" Tom is, so I would have to assume he does not realize anything like this is happening.

Witmaster · 09-24-2008, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

after looking into it further and seeing that he is using Aweber its very possible that they "hijack" the email addresses, if so that is messed up...I will let you know what happens tomorrow. I know how "anti-spam" Tom is, so I would have to assume he does not realize anything like this is happening.

Regardless, I probably should have just PM'd you the matter rather than just flame out in an open rant.

Thanks for addressing the concern. I'm still a satisfied customer.

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 01:00 PM

I use a similar service called Getresponse.com for my newsletters, I am now curious if they hijack my email addresses and sell them, I think I will test mine next.

**IainDaniel** · 09-24-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witmaster

Regardless, I probably should have just PM'd you the matter rather than just flame out in an open rant.

Thanks for addressing the concern. I'm still a satisfied customer.

Don't you know we like the drama

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 06:11 PM

Well, I stand corrected!!!

Since I started my test this morning at 8am I have now received 6 spam messages and they are definitely part of Aweber.com because the spam wants me to sign up for their newsletters. So, my thought on this is Aweber.com sells off ALL email addresses that come in on all customer accounts to other Aweber customers that want to buy legit email addresses. This is pretty messed up in my opinion since companies are paying to use this service in the first place.

I sent Tom another email since I have confirmed the spam, still waiting for his response, knowing Tom he is not aware of this and will not be too happy about it.

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 06:26 PM

I just set-up a new email account so I can test my own service which is through Getresponse.com, it's a paid service so if they do this same crap as Aweber.com I am going to be pissed!

KelJu · 09-24-2008, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

Well, I stand corrected!!!

Since I started my test this morning at 8am I have now received 6 spam messages and they are definitely part of Aweber.com because the spam wants me to sign up for their newsletters. So, my thought on this is Aweber.com sells off ALL email addresses that come in on all customer accounts to other Aweber customers that want to buy legit email addresses. This is pretty messed up in my opinion since companies are paying to use this service in the first place.

I sent Tom another email since I have confirmed the spam, still waiting for his response, knowing Tom he is not aware of this and will not be too happy about it.

I am pretty impressed by both your call to action and your honesty in the matter. Keep up the good work!

bio-chem · 09-24-2008, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelJu

I am pretty impressed by both your call to action and your honesty in the matter. Keep up the good work!

**Prince** · 09-24-2008, 08:59 PM

Tom Venuto's email response:

Quote:

Rob,

If this is true it is beyond disturbing,
its earth shattering. Aweber has
the most stellar reputation
in the industry. Its hard to believe
they would be the responsible party.

But maybe there is some way their
system is compromised, or my website
is compromised. The latter is unlikely
my webmaster has us behind some
very serious firewalls.

What I need from you is copies of the spams
and then I will get on the phone with the big
wigs at Aweber tomorrow.

Thanks for the heads up.

The Monkey Man · 09-25-2008, 12:43 AM

Hail Prince and IM for this resolution!

Thats 100% friggin stand-up IMO

CHEERS!

tallcall · 09-25-2008, 07:56 AM

Prince and Tom for President/VP 2008! Standing up for the little guys.

**Prince** · 09-25-2008, 08:09 AM

UPDATE:

I did not receive any more spam as of this morning in my test email account for Aweber.com (email service Burn the Fat is using).

Great news! I decided to test my own email service Getresponse.com and I received zero spam messages in my test email account thus far.

PreMier · 09-25-2008, 10:12 AM

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**Prince** · 09-25-2008, 12:58 PM

I sent an email to Aweber, they responded but either they did not understand what I was accusing them of or they think I am a dumbass, so I responded with a more detailed and clear email of what they are doing and that I have verified it.

09-24-2008, 03:30 AM	#1
Witmaster Esprit de Corps Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 4,995 Photos: 6	*Bull Fcking Sht* So I fill out the online regestration the below listed link. I was going to purchase the ebook. Like an idiot, I assume, hey, it's an Ironmag sponsor. I can trust it. Well today I find dozens of spam emails from Supplement companies I've never heard of in my email. Bull Fucking Shit. I should have known better. NEVER write a check with your mouth that you can't cash with your ASS!! I can run faster mad than you can scared "All right brain... I don't like you and you don't like me. So let's just do this and I'll get back to killing you with beer" ~ Homer Simpson

09-24-2008, 09:07 AM	#7
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,393 Photos: 356	I just created a new email account and signed up for the 12 part e-course, so far I received the confirmation email, and then the first intro email after I confirmed my subscription. I also sent an email off to Tom Venuto about this matter. IronMagLabs 1-ANDRO Rx Pro-Hormone - BUY 2 GET 1 FREE SPECIAL! BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding, Fitness & Training Blog. Maximizer.com - Maximizer Strength for Maximum Performance Befriend on Myspace Follow on Twitter

09-24-2008, 11:23 AM	#12
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,109	That's awesome, Prince - thank you so much for doing that. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

09-24-2008, 11:38 AM	#14
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,393 Photos: 356	thanks guys! IronMagLabs 1-ANDRO Rx Pro-Hormone - BUY 2 GET 1 FREE SPECIAL! BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding, Fitness & Training Blog. Maximizer.com - Maximizer Strength for Maximum Performance Befriend on Myspace Follow on Twitter

09-24-2008, 12:28 PM	#15
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,393 Photos: 356	FYI - one thing to add, if signing up does put your email on a mailing list it is via AWeber.com, that is the list manager being used. IronMagLabs 1-ANDRO Rx Pro-Hormone - BUY 2 GET 1 FREE SPECIAL! BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding, Fitness & Training Blog. Maximizer.com - Maximizer Strength for Maximum Performance Befriend on Myspace Follow on Twitter

09-24-2008, 04:43 AM	#2
lnvanry primeau Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tucson Posts: 3,436 Photos: 16	not to sound like a prick bro, but how did you not expect that? Anytime you give any source your email, expect a few spams in the inbox. Thats why gmail is so nice...it filters the shit for you

09-24-2008, 07:45 AM	#3
DaMayor On a Perpetual Bulk Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Posts: 6,145	You should've bought Lyle's book.

09-24-2008, 12:38 PM	#16
Witmaster Esprit de Corps Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 4,995 Photos: 6	Thank you for looking into this, Prince. I was probably a tad bit over zealous in my original post. I honestly have no idea how my email address would have been hijacked by hack supplement companies. If your test turns results in no spam that I'll have to assume I was wrong. Strange though, the only thing I have done online with my email has been to register the 12-part series. NEVER write a check with your mouth that you can't cash with your ASS!! I can run faster mad than you can scared "All right brain... I don't like you and you don't like me. So let's just do this and I'll get back to killing you with beer" ~ Homer Simpson

09-24-2008, 01:00 PM	#19
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,393 Photos: 356	I use a similar service called Getresponse.com for my newsletters, I am now curious if they hijack my email addresses and sell them, I think I will test mine next. IronMagLabs 1-ANDRO Rx Pro-Hormone - BUY 2 GET 1 FREE SPECIAL! BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding, Fitness & Training Blog. Maximizer.com - Maximizer Strength for Maximum Performance Befriend on Myspace Follow on Twitter

09-24-2008, 06:11 PM	#21
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,393 Photos: 356	Well, I stand corrected!!! Since I started my test this morning at 8am I have now received 6 spam messages and they are definitely part of Aweber.com because the spam wants me to sign up for their newsletters. So, my thought on this is Aweber.com sells off ALL email addresses that come in on all customer accounts to other Aweber customers that want to buy legit email addresses. This is pretty messed up in my opinion since companies are paying to use this service in the first place. I sent Tom another email since I have confirmed the spam, still waiting for his response, knowing Tom he is not aware of this and will not be too happy about it. IronMagLabs 1-ANDRO Rx Pro-Hormone - BUY 2 GET 1 FREE SPECIAL! BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding, Fitness & Training Blog. Maximizer.com - Maximizer Strength for Maximum Performance Befriend on Myspace Follow on Twitter

09-24-2008, 06:26 PM	#22
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,393 Photos: 356	I just set-up a new email account so I can test my own service which is through Getresponse.com, it's a paid service so if they do this same crap as Aweber.com I am going to be pissed! IronMagLabs 1-ANDRO Rx Pro-Hormone - BUY 2 GET 1 FREE SPECIAL! BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding, Fitness & Training Blog. Maximizer.com - Maximizer Strength for Maximum Performance Befriend on Myspace Follow on Twitter

09-25-2008, 12:43 AM	#26
The Monkey Man Magical Apelikemenace Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 14,393 Photos: 57	Hail Prince and IM for this resolution! Thats 100% friggin stand-up IMO CHEERS! Have Problems?... Chances are its due to overpopulation Save The Oceans, Save the Planet, Save Your Family, Save Yourself!

09-25-2008, 07:56 AM	#27
tallcall The Evil Director is IN Elite Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,897 Photos: 12	Prince and Tom for President/VP 2008! Standing up for the little guys. First Place Florida State Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Champions - My guys - "Team Brotherhood"

09-25-2008, 08:09 AM	#28
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,393 Photos: 356	UPDATE: I did not receive any more spam as of this morning in my test email account for Aweber.com (email service Burn the Fat is using). Great news! I decided to test my own email service Getresponse.com and I received zero spam messages in my test email account thus far. IronMagLabs 1-ANDRO Rx Pro-Hormone - BUY 2 GET 1 FREE SPECIAL! BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding, Fitness & Training Blog. Maximizer.com - Maximizer Strength for Maximum Performance Befriend on Myspace Follow on Twitter

09-25-2008, 10:12 AM	#29
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,962 Photos: 2	[subscribe] 123 P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

09-25-2008, 12:58 PM	#30
Prince IronMagLabs Owner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,393 Photos: 356	I sent an email to Aweber, they responded but either they did not understand what I was accusing them of or they think I am a dumbass, so I responded with a more detailed and clear email of what they are doing and that I have verified it. IronMagLabs 1-ANDRO Rx Pro-Hormone - BUY 2 GET 1 FREE SPECIAL! BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding, Fitness & Training Blog. Maximizer.com - Maximizer Strength for Maximum Performance Befriend on Myspace Follow on Twitter

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