DHEA Transdermal

juggernaut · 06-04-2009, 10:20 AM

Anyone know how to create a transdermal base for DHEA? I'm looking for a step by step. Tried searching, but it didnt help.

juggernaut · 06-08-2009, 08:28 PM

rattle

**Robert D.** · 06-08-2009, 09:10 PM

I don't understand why you would even want to?

juggernaut · 06-09-2009, 04:29 AM

many reasons

**Pirate!** · 06-09-2009, 08:08 AM

I don't know how, but I would probably prefer a 7-keto-DHEA transdermal.

juggernaut · 06-09-2009, 08:08 AM

why the difference?

**Robert D.** · 06-09-2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

many reasons

like what?

juggernaut · 06-09-2009, 08:20 AM

none really, just the typical reasons one would want with better efficacy and absorption through a transdermal coupled with dhea.

nkira · 06-09-2009, 08:59 AM

I think Built Knows,

Mean while takes a look at this study,

Excerpt,

"The DHEA levels that markedly increased after the first doses gradually declined already during the application, and this decline proceeded even after it was discontinued, reaching levels significantly lower than the original ones. On the other hand, the levels of DHEA metabolites (with the exception of DHEAS) rose during the application and reached values significantly higher than the basal ones within 5 weeks."

Effects of transdermal application of DHEA on the ...[Physiol Res. 2000] - PubMed Result

For the Transdermal Base, (Go down to Post 12)

DHEA - oral work, transdermal doesn't - why? - ImmInst Forums

**Robert D.** · 06-09-2009, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

none really, just the typical reasons one would want with better efficacy and absorption through a transdermal coupled with dhea.

I did not mean why do you want a transdermal, I am asking why you want to use a transdermal DHEA.

juggernaut · 06-09-2009, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

I did not mean why do you want a transdermal, I am asking why you want to use a transdermal DHEA.

thought I just answered that.

**Robert D.** · 06-09-2009, 12:28 PM

in other words... you really don't know why you want to use DHEA, nor why you believe a transdermal is necessary for DHEA (its not), thanks for clearing that up.

juggernaut · 06-09-2009, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

in other words... you really don't know why you want to use DHEA, nor why you believe a transdermal is necessary for DHEA (its not), thanks for clearing that up.

Yes. that's right. Exactly. Any time I can be of help please, stop by rxmuscle.

**nni** · 06-09-2009, 04:47 PM

unless you are older, i would not use dhea.

that being said, check out primordial performance, they might have one.

juggernaut · 06-09-2009, 09:23 PM

age isnt an issue; I'm merely looking for a way to do it.
nni; you were right-they have it. Nice work. It's called Dermacrine. I thought that was it.

**Robert D.** · 06-09-2009, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

age isnt an issue; I'm merely looking for a way to do it.
nni; you were right-they have it. Nice work. It's called Dermacrine. I thought that was it.

there is a lot more in that product:

DHEA – 72mg
7,8-Benzoflavone (99%) – 36mg
Resveratrol (99%) – 36mg
Pregnenolone - 18mg
Chrysin (99%) – 9mg

**Built** · 06-10-2009, 12:21 AM

Chrysin, benzoflavin and resveratrol are there to fight estrogen. Pregnenolone is a steroid hormone precursor to many other hormones, including progesterone (and hence testosterone) as well as DHEA.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...6/6c/DHEA1.svg

When I spoke to my compounding pharmacy, they suggested to me that the PCCA asserts DHEA is more likely to promote estrogen when used topically, and more likely to convert to androgen when taken orally. They further suggested this relationship may be reversed in males.

I have nothing yet to back up this assertion, but I'll hazard a guess that it depends upon the location and concentration of androgen and estrogen receptors in the skin, as well as of course enzymes such as 5-alpha reductase (genital and scalp) and aromatase (adipose tissue).

Or I'm losing my mind from watching what is easily THE lamest movie ever - "Evil Dead".

**nni** · 06-10-2009, 01:39 PM

age does have a lot to do with it. dhea will convert to estrogen, there is nothing that you can do to stop it. the younger you are, the more it will convert into estrogen. that is why dhea is popular with older men, it is not the same experience in younger men.

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06-09-2009, 12:28 PM	#12
Robert D. Who Me? Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 37,423 Photos: 356	in other words... you really don't know why you want to use DHEA, nor why you believe a transdermal is necessary for DHEA (its not), thanks for clearing that up. BOARD SPONSORS: MassNutrition.com - Discount Supplement Superstore IronMagLabs.com - Bodybuilding Nutrition AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders & Supplements CEMProducts.com - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclesProd.com - Steroids, Bodybuilding & Training Blog Maximizer.com - Maximum Strength for Maximum Performance MikeGetsRipped.com - The Original 'Get Ripped' Blog ProteinRoutine.com - Experiments in Healthy Living Follow on Twitter Join Facebook Group Befriend on Myspace

06-09-2009, 04:47 PM	#14
nni Driven Sports Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: . Posts: 1,668	unless you are older, i would not use dhea. that being said, check out primordial performance, they might have one. www.getds.com www.drivensports.co.uk

06-08-2009, 08:28 PM	#2
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	rattle

06-09-2009, 04:29 AM	#4
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	many reasons

06-09-2009, 08:20 AM	#8
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	none really, just the typical reasons one would want with better efficacy and absorption through a transdermal coupled with dhea.

06-09-2009, 09:23 PM	#15
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	age isnt an issue; I'm merely looking for a way to do it. nni; you were right-they have it. Nice work. It's called Dermacrine. I thought that was it.

06-10-2009, 12:21 AM	#17
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,121	Chrysin, benzoflavin and resveratrol are there to fight estrogen. Pregnenolone is a steroid hormone precursor to many other hormones, including progesterone (and hence testosterone) as well as DHEA. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...6/6c/DHEA1.svg When I spoke to my compounding pharmacy, they suggested to me that the PCCA asserts DHEA is more likely to promote estrogen when used topically, and more likely to convert to androgen when taken orally. They further suggested this relationship may be reversed in males. I have nothing yet to back up this assertion, but I'll hazard a guess that it depends upon the location and concentration of androgen and estrogen receptors in the skin, as well as of course enzymes such as 5-alpha reductase (genital and scalp) and aromatase (adipose tissue). Or I'm losing my mind from watching what is easily THE lamest movie ever - "Evil Dead". Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

06-10-2009, 01:39 PM	#18
nni Driven Sports Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: . Posts: 1,668	age does have a lot to do with it. dhea will convert to estrogen, there is nothing that you can do to stop it. the younger you are, the more it will convert into estrogen. that is why dhea is popular with older men, it is not the same experience in younger men. www.getds.com www.drivensports.co.uk

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