Protein that is... clean?

RasPlasch · 06-25-2009, 03:38 PM

The past 2 Whey Protein supplements I have used made me break out. Both times I went on a trip, stopped taking the product my face cleared up. I come back and start taking the supplement and my face starts to break out.

Does anyone know of a clean protein supplement that doesn't have ingredients that make me break out?

**IainDaniel** · 06-25-2009, 03:42 PM

What causes you to break out? Milk Reactions?

You could try pea protein.

RasPlasch · 06-25-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

What causes you to break out? Milk Reactions?

You could try pea protein.

No... I've always drank a lot of milk everyday. That has no affect on my acne. Its just the supplement.

egodog48 · 06-25-2009, 10:42 PM

I think you really would have to single out which ingredient is making you break out. Anything we recommend would be just speculation. There are many different varieties of protein you could try, have you never had one that didnt make you break out?

RasPlasch · 06-26-2009, 02:43 AM

Yeah I've had one that never caused me to breakout.

Body Fortress Whey Protein Review » Supplements-Explained.com

I used to just get it right at Target. But I'm pretty sure they stopped selling it.

m11 · 06-26-2009, 03:20 AM

Check out Walmart if you prefer Body Fortress. The one near me carries that brand, and others on the forum have mentioned purchasing that brand from Walmarts as well.

RasPlasch · 06-26-2009, 12:14 PM

I will check it out. Thank you m11.

Berto · 06-26-2009, 01:30 PM

What you want is a pure whey protein isolate

The products that have whey protein concentrate have a higher percentage of carbs, milk sugars (lactose), and other crap like ash that you are probably getting affected by. With whey protein isolate, they filter, or 'isolate' the junk out.

Isolates are a bit more expensive but worth it in my book.

chobby192 · 06-26-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RasPlasch

Body Fortress Whey Protein Review » Supplements-Explained.com

Chinese protein?

**Prince** · 06-27-2009, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berto

What you want is a pure whey protein isolate

The products that have whey protein concentrate have a higher percentage of carbs, milk sugars (lactose), and other crap like ash that you are probably getting affected by. With whey protein isolate, they filter, or 'isolate' the junk out.

Isolates are a bit more expensive but worth it in my book.

I concur, except I recommend this one: IronMagLabs Whey Protein Isolate

Leviathan · 06-28-2009, 12:21 AM

Body fortress is of very low quality; Trust me, I used it when I was uneducated physiologically.

Instead of target or walmart, try shopping at a market aimed at Protein supplement. Isolate usually is the best quality (WPI) and some aren't really that expensive. Try GNC or a local vitamin shop that may carry it around, and not staple department stores such as Walmart and Target. Even online shopping can be convenient (like the above post.)

Berto · 06-28-2009, 11:20 PM

Cool, I had them add your link to the whey protein isolate link above. Kind of expensive though

m11 · 06-28-2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leviathan

Body fortress is of very low quality; Trust me, I used it when I was uneducated physiologically.

Instead of target or walmart, try shopping at a market aimed at Protein supplement. Isolate usually is the best quality (WPI) and some aren't really that expensive. Try GNC or a local vitamin shop that may carry it around, and not staple department stores such as Walmart and Target. Even online shopping can be convenient (like the above post.)

I'm not confirming or denying your claim, however, would you mind elaborating specifically on why you believe this?

gopro · 06-29-2009, 01:51 PM

Cleanest proteins/products in the industry come from AAEFX. They take more care in producing and testing their products for purity than ANY company in the industry.

Leviathan · 06-29-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m11

I'm not confirming or denying your claim, however, would you mind elaborating specifically on why you believe this?

Yeah, sure. I could be mistaken, as my claim might be bias because I can't really represent everyone's chemical structure, however Body Fortresses' protein powder gave me unusual bowel movements (Which I didn't want to stress, but this was the only brand that has...) and tasted terrible. In milk, and water it tasted terrible and gave me that "throwing up" sensation so I couldn't finish it that well. I don't know whether or not it's just as good for building muscle, but I suppose I couldn't digest it well anyways...

**nni** · 06-29-2009, 02:57 PM

there are many clean companies. any with the gmp seal will qualify. there is no clear number one.

Berto · 06-29-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m11

I'm not confirming or denying your claim, however, would you mind elaborating specifically on why you believe this?

Well look at the label:
http://www.bodyfortress.com/images/s...cts/044320.pdf

Ingredients: Whey Protein Blend (Whey Protein Concentrate,
Whey Protein Isolate), Super Recovery Blend (Creatine
Monohydrate, Taurine, L-Glutamine, Leucine, Isoleucine, Valine),
Cocoa (processed with alkali), Natural and Artificial Flavors, Soy
Lecithin, Acesulfame Potassium, Sunflower Oil, Sucralose.

1. Whey Protein Concentrate is the primary ingredient. Not as good as isolate, as mentioned above.
2. Who has a clue about the quality of the creatine? Too many scoops of this and methinks you'll be spray-painting your toilet
3. Natural and Artificial Flavors? Oh really?
4. Soy lecithin? Why?

Finally, each scoop is 33g. 26g of that is protein. 3g is carbs, 2g is fat. That leaves 2g for all the other crap listed above and whatever ash or impurities also got in there.

No thanks to this product.

**Prince** · 06-29-2009, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

Cleanest proteins/products in the industry come from AAEFX. They take more care in producing and testing their products for purity than ANY company in the industry.

IS IT 100% WHEY ISOLATE?

gopro · 06-30-2009, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nni

there are many clean companies. any with the gmp seal will qualify. there is no clear number one.

As far as how their products are produced (the environment) and the extend to which raw ingredients and final product is tested for purity and contaminants, no one goes as far as EFX.

gopro · 06-30-2009, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

IS IT 100% WHEY ISOLATE?

I will preface my answer by saying that 100% isolate does not necessarily mean it is so much better than a whey protein that also contains concentrates. The more a protein is processed, the more valuable fractions are destroyed.

That said, EFX has both an isolate and a mixture available. I use the mixture.

**nni** · 06-30-2009, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

As far as how their products are produced (the environment) and the extend to which raw ingredients and final product is tested for purity and contaminants, no one goes as far as EFX.

you have absolutely no way of knowing this. its a nice claim though.

**Prince** · 06-30-2009, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

I will preface my answer by saying that 100% isolate does not necessarily mean it is so much better than a whey protein that also contains concentrates. The more a protein is processed, the more valuable fractions are destroyed.

The difference between isolate and concentrate is whey protein isolate is more pure, typically around 90-95% pure protein, concentrate is less pure, around 70-80% protein and it contains more fat and lactose, so I guess it it depends on how much you care about what you're putting in your body, if you are on a very strict diet it would only make sense to use pure isolate.

If you get their protein free I find it hard to believe that you would not be using the pure isolate if they have one.

juggernaut · 06-30-2009, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nni

you have absolutely no way of knowing this. its a nice claim though.

juggernaut · 06-30-2009, 11:57 AM

I got a tub of the Ironmag isolate for Father's Day. It really tastes excellent, especially the Dutch Chocolate.
I also tried the brand from EFX and it made me fart like rancid bastard.

nkira · 06-30-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

powerlifter316 · 06-30-2009, 12:04 PM

Do you have to have whey or some other non-perishable for convenience? If not, try drinking egg whites. The ones that come in carton are pasteurized and taste very neutral so long as the company didn't add anything. I like to combine them with fruit, yogurt, etc. in a blender.

juggernaut · 06-30-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerlifter316

Do you have to have whey or some other non-perishable for convenience? If not, try drinking egg whites. The ones that come in carton are pasteurized and taste very neutral so long as the company didn't add anything. I like to combine them with fruit, yogurt, etc. in a blender.

I like to combine Wendy's with Wendy's

Actually, I prefer to get a mix of both iso and casein together.

nkira · 06-30-2009, 12:27 PM

Whey Isolate is the purest form of whey protein, Period, Provided it's produced using MICROFILTRATION.

ION EXCHANGE method is inferior to MICROFILTRATION. Why?
"You see, a drastic shift in pH is required to drive the chemical reaction which isolates the protein. In so doing, the nature of the whey protein is compromised. The relatively allergenic Beta-Lacto Globulin fraction becomes predominant (instead of the more delicate Alpha-Lactalbumin) and many of the valuable microfractions of whey are lost or reduced including: glycomacropeptides, immunoglobulins, lactoperoxidase and lactoferrin. So in essence, what is produced is a stripped down protein that doesn’t deliver many of the benefits of filtered whey.
So, in the Ion-Exchange process, ratios and quantities of valuable protein fractions are altered to produce a protein which may impart less of a heath promoting effect than that of a filtered whey."

Any one who's interested in knowing why I am saying that can read IronMagLabs Whey Protein Isolate Now Available at Bodybuilding.com - [Blog]

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

I will preface my answer by saying that 100% isolate does not necessarily mean it is so much better than a whey protein that also contains concentrates. The more a protein is processed, the more valuable fractions are destroyed.
.

I beg to differ, Ion Exchange & Micro filtration both are low temperature methods of producing Whey Isolate. Both methods in my opinion are "fraction" sparring as they are low temp processes.

Eric, can give us some insight on how EFX produces Whey Isolate?

troubador · 06-30-2009, 01:20 PM

That Body Fortress junk has 45mg of Cholersterol per scoop. I used it a couple times and it made me feel like I was going to vomit.

**Prince** · 06-30-2009, 01:42 PM

Bodybuilding.com - IronMagLabs Whey Protein Isolate

and you can get 10% off with this Coupon Code: comeback10perOff

06-25-2009, 03:38 PM	#1
RasPlasch Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,038 Photos: 3	Protein that is... clean? The past 2 Whey Protein supplements I have used made me break out. Both times I went on a trip, stopped taking the product my face cleared up. I come back and start taking the supplement and my face starts to break out. Does anyone know of a clean protein supplement that doesn't have ingredients that make me break out? 17 years old. 155lbs Weight goal : 165lbs

06-25-2009, 03:42 PM	#2
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,524	What causes you to break out? Milk Reactions? You could try pea protein. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

06-25-2009, 10:42 PM	#4
egodog48 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 356	I think you really would have to single out which ingredient is making you break out. Anything we recommend would be just speculation. There are many different varieties of protein you could try, have you never had one that didnt make you break out? PAL Rep My thoughts, views, and suggestions are purely that of my own and do not represent Palo Alto Labs.

06-26-2009, 02:43 AM	#5
RasPlasch Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,038 Photos: 3	Yeah I've had one that never caused me to breakout. Body Fortress Whey Protein Review » Supplements-Explained.com I used to just get it right at Target. But I'm pretty sure they stopped selling it. 17 years old. 155lbs Weight goal : 165lbs

06-26-2009, 03:20 AM	#6
m11 www.liftstrong.com Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: FL Posts: 847	Check out Walmart if you prefer Body Fortress. The one near me carries that brand, and others on the forum have mentioned purchasing that brand from Walmarts as well. Getting Started by Built LG Sciences Board Representative These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, do not constitute medical advice, and are not official or authorized comments by LG Sciences, LLC.

06-26-2009, 12:14 PM	#7
RasPlasch Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,038 Photos: 3	I will check it out. Thank you m11. 17 years old. 155lbs Weight goal : 165lbs

06-26-2009, 01:30 PM	#8
Berto Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Bay of LA Posts: 49	What you want is a pure whey protein isolate The products that have whey protein concentrate have a higher percentage of carbs, milk sugars (lactose), and other crap like ash that you are probably getting affected by. With whey protein isolate, they filter, or 'isolate' the junk out. Isolates are a bit more expensive but worth it in my book.

06-28-2009, 12:21 AM	#11
Leviathan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Michigan, USA. Posts: 20	Body fortress is of very low quality; Trust me, I used it when I was uneducated physiologically. Instead of target or walmart, try shopping at a market aimed at Protein supplement. Isolate usually is the best quality (WPI) and some aren't really that expensive. Try GNC or a local vitamin shop that may carry it around, and not staple department stores such as Walmart and Target. Even online shopping can be convenient (like the above post.)

06-28-2009, 11:20 PM	#12
Berto Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Bay of LA Posts: 49	Cool, I had them add your link to the whey protein isolate link above. Kind of expensive though

06-29-2009, 01:51 PM	#14
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,891	Cleanest proteins/products in the industry come from AAEFX. They take more care in producing and testing their products for purity than ANY company in the industry. All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

06-29-2009, 02:57 PM	#16
nni Driven Sports Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: . Posts: 1,658	there are many clean companies. any with the gmp seal will qualify. there is no clear number one. www.getds.com www.drivensports.co.uk

06-30-2009, 11:57 AM	#24
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	I got a tub of the Ironmag isolate for Father's Day. It really tastes excellent, especially the Dutch Chocolate. I also tried the brand from EFX and it made me fart like rancid bastard.

06-30-2009, 12:04 PM	#26
powerlifter316 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 21	Do you have to have whey or some other non-perishable for convenience? If not, try drinking egg whites. The ones that come in carton are pasteurized and taste very neutral so long as the company didn't add anything. I like to combine them with fruit, yogurt, etc. in a blender.

06-30-2009, 01:20 PM	#29
troubador Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 40	That Body Fortress junk has 45mg of Cholersterol per scoop. I used it a couple times and it made me feel like I was going to vomit.

06-30-2009, 01:42 PM	#30
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