Tren Xxl

Ben dur · 09-08-2009, 01:51 AM

im considering doing a cycle of this product

"TREN XXL"
it is basically a ACL Tren Extreme clone

100 caps
30mg 19-nor tren

i compared it to the "fast action trena"
which is 90 caps
10mg 19-nor

why is there so much more in TREN XXL

im about to turn 22 and this would be my first run in with pro-H

i figured because of the recent ban i may want to jump on it while i have the chance cause i may not get another

if i did run it how about

week 1 60mg/day
week 2 90mg/day
week 3 90mg/day
week 4 120mg/day

or would 90 straight through be good?

i have tomox on hand, but was hoping novadex XT (gaspari) would do for PCT

i would run it
week 3 1 cap/day
week 4 2 cap/day
week 5 3 cap/day
week 6 2 cap/day

and i would be pre loading and running anabolic inovations cycle support straight through and a little past my PCT

(got a great deal buy 2 get 1 free at BB.com)but its not on sale anymore

im
21 would turn 22 by the end of this cycle
5'11"
176lbs-80kg
around 8-9% bf

currently i take
NO shotgun pre
w/ gatorade powder

NO synthesize post
w/ gatorade powder

EAS 100% whey protein

im currently consuming around 3000cal a day
and roughly 250G of protein

that will be increased to around
3500cal 300+g pro

i can currently pick up

squat 265... ?i know pathetic
romanian deadlift 425
bench press 205
pull ups 17

id really like to bring my power lifting total up to the 1000lb range
id perfer if i could maintain my speed and athletic agility

my main goal would be to add a few pounds of solid muscle
and increase my strength as much as possible

any constructive criticism you can off would be greatly appreciated

Ben dur · 09-08-2009, 11:56 PM

seriously?
24 hours and not 1 view?

come on

Ben dur · 09-09-2009, 10:40 AM

Any criticism at all...

Ben dur · 09-09-2009, 10:19 PM

Ok seriously nothing?

Ben dur · 09-10-2009, 08:31 PM

Thanks for all the help...

bcute4u · 09-10-2009, 10:03 PM

Good luck. If you can please check you blood pressure often. Mid cycle if you can, get a liver report done and check the ALANINE AMINOTRANSFERASE serum levels, if the levels are > 36 then your liver is hurting.
Also a cholestrol report will tell you if your HDL level is going lower with the PH. What you do after viewing the results is totally up to you.

Ben dur · 09-10-2009, 10:43 PM

thank you

as of this afternoon my BP was 105/60, and my resting heart rate is around 45bpm

ill keep track of this daily along the way

also this PH is not methylated
i do understand it can still be harsh on the body, but, its only a single PH (not a suicide 2 or 3 PH blend like some) and its not methyl

additionally i will be using the cycle support, which should help some

if nobody has any objections im gunna go ahead and start the loading phase with cycle support

Cgrant · 09-11-2009, 03:41 AM

This is something I was looking into a while ago, but never followed through on. I would imagine since its not the aas tren you should be ok with the gaspari, but drop a wuestion in the anabolic zone too and see if anyone can lend some advice. Please let me know if you're logging this too, I'm torn between picking this up before the ban (future use) or saying fuck it and going with a homebrew pellet kit. GOOD LUCK MAN!!

bcute4u · 09-11-2009, 11:17 AM

Its good when its non methyl. Any idea what this PH converts to?

Keeps a good eye on dosing. The recomended dosage is usually useless. I recently finished a PMAG cycle and found progress only when I jacked up the dose to 125 per day.
I am interested in this log. Please keep up with it, I'll keep checking.

Ben dur · 09-11-2009, 02:55 PM

im a little confused about where to post about pro hormones really

half the time the anabolic zone sends you to the supplement board,
and the other half the sup board sends me that way

meanwhile both have stickies containing info on Pro hormones...

i will ask them their opinion, and im planning on logging my experience, at bare minimum you will get updates in this thread

Ben dur · 09-11-2009, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcute4u

Its good when its non methyl. Any idea what this PH converts to?

Keeps a good eye on dosing. The recomended dosage is usually useless. I recently finished a PMAG cycle and found progress only when I jacked up the dose to 125 per day.
I am interested in this log. Please keep up with it, I'll keep checking.

supposedly it converts to trenbolone very rapidly, and is supposed to be highly available oraly

im not really sure on the details though

i have had a few buddies use the original ACL Tren xtreme with incredible results

rahaas · 09-11-2009, 08:21 PM

At 21 is this stuff really better than food?
Just asking...

Ben dur · 09-12-2009, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rahaas

At 21 is this stuff really better than food?
Just asking...

well i thought PH were generally considered unsafe for people under 18, and preferably only to be used by responsible users age 21 and up

here i am over the drinking age requirement, asking for advice.

if you think it is a bad idea, please, constructive criticism is greatly appreciated

rahaas · 09-12-2009, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben dur

well i thought PH were generally considered unsafe for people under 18, and preferably only to be used by responsible users age 21 and up

here i am over the drinking age requirement, asking for advice.

if you think it is a bad idea, please, constructive criticism is greatly appreciated

I don't think it's a bad idea. You've done the research and it fit your goals perfectly. Just saying it's not something I would have done when I was 21. My goals back then were to put on muscle so I ate and didn't worry about keeping an 8% bf level.

09-08-2009, 01:51 AM	#1
Ben dur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milton FL Posts: 1,235 Photos: 6	Tren Xxl im considering doing a cycle of this product "TREN XXL" it is basically a ACL Tren Extreme clone 100 caps 30mg 19-nor tren i compared it to the "fast action trena" which is 90 caps 10mg 19-nor why is there so much more in TREN XXL im about to turn 22 and this would be my first run in with pro-H i figured because of the recent ban i may want to jump on it while i have the chance cause i may not get another if i did run it how about week 1 60mg/day week 2 90mg/day week 3 90mg/day week 4 120mg/day or would 90 straight through be good? i have tomox on hand, but was hoping novadex XT (gaspari) would do for PCT i would run it week 3 1 cap/day week 4 2 cap/day week 5 3 cap/day week 6 2 cap/day and i would be pre loading and running anabolic inovations cycle support straight through and a little past my PCT (got a great deal buy 2 get 1 free at BB.com)but its not on sale anymore im 21 would turn 22 by the end of this cycle 5'11" 176lbs-80kg around 8-9% bf currently i take NO shotgun pre w/ gatorade powder NO synthesize post w/ gatorade powder EAS 100% whey protein im currently consuming around 3000cal a day and roughly 250G of protein that will be increased to around 3500cal 300+g pro i can currently pick up squat 265... ?i know pathetic romanian deadlift 425 bench press 205 pull ups 17 id really like to bring my power lifting total up to the 1000lb range id perfer if i could maintain my speed and athletic agility my main goal would be to add a few pounds of solid muscle and increase my strength as much as possible any constructive criticism you can off would be greatly appreciated 21 5'11" ~175lbs 8% on elec. analyzer

09-08-2009, 11:56 PM	#2
Ben dur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milton FL Posts: 1,235 Photos: 6	seriously? 24 hours and not 1 view? come on 21 5'11" ~175lbs 8% on elec. analyzer

09-09-2009, 10:40 AM	#3
Ben dur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milton FL Posts: 1,235 Photos: 6	Any criticism at all... 21 5'11" ~175lbs 8% on elec. analyzer

09-09-2009, 10:19 PM	#4
Ben dur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milton FL Posts: 1,235 Photos: 6	Ok seriously nothing? 21 5'11" ~175lbs 8% on elec. analyzer

09-10-2009, 08:31 PM	#5
Ben dur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milton FL Posts: 1,235 Photos: 6	Thanks for all the help... 21 5'11" ~175lbs 8% on elec. analyzer

09-10-2009, 10:03 PM	#6
bcute4u Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: california Posts: 42	Good luck. If you can please check you blood pressure often. Mid cycle if you can, get a liver report done and check the ALANINE AMINOTRANSFERASE serum levels, if the levels are > 36 then your liver is hurting. Also a cholestrol report will tell you if your HDL level is going lower with the PH. What you do after viewing the results is totally up to you.

09-10-2009, 10:43 PM	#7
Ben dur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milton FL Posts: 1,235 Photos: 6	thank you as of this afternoon my BP was 105/60, and my resting heart rate is around 45bpm ill keep track of this daily along the way also this PH is not methylated i do understand it can still be harsh on the body, but, its only a single PH (not a suicide 2 or 3 PH blend like some) and its not methyl additionally i will be using the cycle support, which should help some if nobody has any objections im gunna go ahead and start the loading phase with cycle support 21 5'11" ~175lbs 8% on elec. analyzer

09-11-2009, 03:41 AM	#8
Cgrant is endlessly cutting Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jersey Posts: 557	This is something I was looking into a while ago, but never followed through on. I would imagine since its not the aas tren you should be ok with the gaspari, but drop a wuestion in the anabolic zone too and see if anyone can lend some advice. Please let me know if you're logging this too, I'm torn between picking this up before the ban (future use) or saying fuck it and going with a homebrew pellet kit. GOOD LUCK MAN!! Check out my Journal

09-11-2009, 11:17 AM	#9
bcute4u Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: california Posts: 42	Its good when its non methyl. Any idea what this PH converts to? Keeps a good eye on dosing. The recomended dosage is usually useless. I recently finished a PMAG cycle and found progress only when I jacked up the dose to 125 per day. I am interested in this log. Please keep up with it, I'll keep checking.

09-11-2009, 02:55 PM	#10
Ben dur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milton FL Posts: 1,235 Photos: 6	im a little confused about where to post about pro hormones really half the time the anabolic zone sends you to the supplement board, and the other half the sup board sends me that way meanwhile both have stickies containing info on Pro hormones... i will ask them their opinion, and im planning on logging my experience, at bare minimum you will get updates in this thread 21 5'11" ~175lbs 8% on elec. analyzer

09-11-2009, 08:21 PM	#12
rahaas Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 880 Photos: 1	At 21 is this stuff really better than food? Just asking... *No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.*

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