VPX Meltdown vs EC Stack

suprfast · 10-13-2009, 08:00 PM

Im currently finishing up my last box of Primatine(where i get my Ephedrine from, 12.5mg/pill) and was curious if anyone else has any insight on VPX Meltdown.

I have taken the EC stack for about 6 weeks now and plan to cycle off for a week(if i recall this is what was recommended). When i get ready to hit the Thermogenics again I will most likely hop back on the EC stack for another 6 weeks(wash, rinse, repeat), unless this VPX is legit.

VPX Meltdown

CLAIM:
-MELTDOWN® Is 117% to 273% more potent than caffeine + ephedrine! 972% MORE POTENT THAN EPHEDRINE & THE ONLY FAT BURNER PROVEN TO BE MORE POTENT THAN THE EPHEDRINE/ CAFFEINE STACK!

Well if this is the case, which i never believe the hype without my own research(this is what im doing by asking) , would anyone recommend VPX over the EC stack.

Two reasons for not purchasing primatine anymore and going with VPX with the second reason pending verification.
1) I do not like the idea of swiping my Drivers License every time i purchase some primatine. Im not making Meth, leave me the fuck alone.
2) If it is more effective, why not...

Price wise is a small difference, but i dont know the ratio of ephedrine to synephrine(if there is one).

If one serving of my EC(2 primatine tabs with 1 caffeine tab) is equal to a single pill of VPX then it would be cheaper to go with VPX. If one serving of EC is equal to a serving indicated on the bottle of VPX(3 capsules) then it would be almost twice as much. break down below

EC as i currently buy them
10.00 + tax / 60 tabs = .17/tablet x 2(for a serving) = .34 cents
Caffeine is about 5.00/100 tabs = .05 cents
EC = .39 cents / serving

VPX can be found on mass nutrition for
29.99 + any s/h and possible taxes / 120 = .25 / pill (+ any s/h and possible taxes). a serving would equal .75 (+ any s/h and possible taxes).

well your turn to chime in and sorry i over analyzed this.
kris

mcguin · 10-14-2009, 07:41 AM

dont know much about your ec stack, but I've taken quite a few thermo's over the years and besides animal cuts, meltdown is one of the stronger more effective thermo's to date that I've encountered. I've been on meltdown taking 3 pills daily with a very strict clean diet for 4 weeks now and have dropped 2.5% bf and have lost 15lbs.

**nni** · 10-14-2009, 07:35 PM

i dont buy it.

suprfast · 10-14-2009, 08:16 PM

I think im going to go the old fashioned route of EC. Thought i would get some insight first
kris

mcguin · 10-15-2009, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nni

i dont buy it.

what dont you buy?

suprfast · 10-15-2009, 02:57 PM

I would guess his statement was aimed towards the "claim" of VPX.

mcguin · 10-19-2009, 09:35 AM

nni...if you check my thread history i dont post much on here except for open chat, i am no way sponsoring or a representative of any supplement companies, i simply stated what I've achieved as of recently...i didnt ask if you want to buy into my opinion or not. if you would like to call me out as a liar..so be it, but with that assumption you're more or less stating that the scales I have been using, the bf calipers I've been using, the diet ive been living by and the gym routine are all lies. This I dont appreciate.

Bradicallyman · 10-19-2009, 05:13 PM

I have used and liked both. But I would stick with the EC stack because its cheaper, and from my experience, more effective.

Meltdown is not a bad option though, I just think the claims that VPX makes are ridiculous.

**nni** · 10-19-2009, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguin

nni...if you check my thread history i dont post much on here except for open chat, i am no way sponsoring or a representative of any supplement companies, i simply stated what I've achieved as of recently...i didnt ask if you want to buy into my opinion or not. if you would like to call me out as a liar..so be it, but with that assumption you're more or less stating that the scales I have been using, the bf calipers I've been using, the diet ive been living by and the gym routine are all lies. This I dont appreciate.

what? i dont buy the study (better than ec), whatever your results are your results, i dont buy the study. relax.

mcguin · 10-20-2009, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nni

what? i dont buy the study (better than ec), whatever your results are your results, i dont buy the study. relax.

fair enough, my apologies.

urbanski · 10-20-2009, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguin

dont know much about your ec stack, but I've taken quite a few thermo's over the years and besides animal cuts, meltdown is one of the stronger more effective thermo's to date that I've encountered. I've been on meltdown taking 3 pills daily with a very strict clean diet for 4 weeks now and have dropped 2.5% bf and have lost 15lbs.

i actually agree. meltdown gives me great energy and focus, no crash, and works well to cut my appetite. combined with a proper submaintenance diet i think it will be helpful in a cut.

10-13-2009, 08:00 PM	#1
suprfast Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Merced, ca Posts: 389	VPX Meltdown vs EC Stack Im currently finishing up my last box of Primatine(where i get my Ephedrine from, 12.5mg/pill) and was curious if anyone else has any insight on VPX Meltdown. I have taken the EC stack for about 6 weeks now and plan to cycle off for a week(if i recall this is what was recommended). When i get ready to hit the Thermogenics again I will most likely hop back on the EC stack for another 6 weeks(wash, rinse, repeat), unless this VPX is legit. VPX Meltdown CLAIM: -MELTDOWN® Is 117% to 273% more potent than caffeine + ephedrine! 972% MORE POTENT THAN EPHEDRINE & THE ONLY FAT BURNER PROVEN TO BE MORE POTENT THAN THE EPHEDRINE/ CAFFEINE STACK! Well if this is the case, which i never believe the hype without my own research(this is what im doing by asking) , would anyone recommend VPX over the EC stack. Two reasons for not purchasing primatine anymore and going with VPX with the second reason pending verification. 1) I do not like the idea of swiping my Drivers License every time i purchase some primatine. Im not making Meth, leave me the fuck alone. 2) If it is more effective, why not... Price wise is a small difference, but i dont know the ratio of ephedrine to synephrine(if there is one). If one serving of my EC(2 primatine tabs with 1 caffeine tab) is equal to a single pill of VPX then it would be cheaper to go with VPX. If one serving of EC is equal to a serving indicated on the bottle of VPX(3 capsules) then it would be almost twice as much. break down below EC as i currently buy them 10.00 + tax / 60 tabs = .17/tablet x 2(for a serving) = .34 cents Caffeine is about 5.00/100 tabs = .05 cents EC = .39 cents / serving VPX can be found on mass nutrition for 29.99 + any s/h and possible taxes / 120 = .25 / pill (+ any s/h and possible taxes). a serving would equal .75 (+ any s/h and possible taxes). well your turn to chime in and sorry i over analyzed this. kris 5'8" 207 lbs 225lbs(6.8.09)/207lbs(10.22.09) looking for 200lbs in 25 weeks(a pound a week) Exercise Examples

10-14-2009, 07:35 PM	#3
nni Driven Sports Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: . Posts: 1,666	i dont buy it. www.getds.com www.drivensports.co.uk

10-14-2009, 08:16 PM	#4
suprfast Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Merced, ca Posts: 389	I think im going to go the old fashioned route of EC. Thought i would get some insight first kris 5'8" 207 lbs 225lbs(6.8.09)/207lbs(10.22.09) looking for 200lbs in 25 weeks(a pound a week) Exercise Examples

10-15-2009, 02:57 PM	#6
suprfast Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Merced, ca Posts: 389	I would guess his statement was aimed towards the "claim" of VPX. 5'8" 207 lbs 225lbs(6.8.09)/207lbs(10.22.09) looking for 200lbs in 25 weeks(a pound a week) Exercise Examples

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10-14-2009, 07:41 AM	#2
mcguin "It's not a tooma!" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US Posts: 358	dont know much about your ec stack, but I've taken quite a few thermo's over the years and besides animal cuts, meltdown is one of the stronger more effective thermo's to date that I've encountered. I've been on meltdown taking 3 pills daily with a very strict clean diet for 4 weeks now and have dropped 2.5% bf and have lost 15lbs.

10-19-2009, 09:35 AM	#7
mcguin "It's not a tooma!" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US Posts: 358	nni...if you check my thread history i dont post much on here except for open chat, i am no way sponsoring or a representative of any supplement companies, i simply stated what I've achieved as of recently...i didnt ask if you want to buy into my opinion or not. if you would like to call me out as a liar..so be it, but with that assumption you're more or less stating that the scales I have been using, the bf calipers I've been using, the diet ive been living by and the gym routine are all lies. This I dont appreciate.

10-19-2009, 05:13 PM	#8
Bradicallyman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 222 Photos: 11	I have used and liked both. But I would stick with the EC stack because its cheaper, and from my experience, more effective. Meltdown is not a bad option though, I just think the claims that VPX makes are ridiculous.