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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-Surfer View Post
    Any thoughts on this paper? It suggets that DHEA doesn't increase muscle mass. But at the same time it states neither does androstenedione. I think we would have to disagree with the androstenedione based on Mark McGuire.
    I prefer this paper....

    {Delta}-4-Androstene-3,17-Dione Binds Androgen Receptor, Promotes Myogenesis in Vitro, and Increases Serum Testosterone Levels, Fat-Free Mass, and Muscle Strength in Hypogonadal Men -- Jasuja et al. 90 (2): 855 -- Journal of Clinical Endocrinology &

    There are some others on oral DHEA that show an increase in LBM in older men too... Ill see if I can find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primordial View Post
    You dont have any pre-existing issues? Not recently coming of a superdrone cycle or something?

    Then yes, you have my guarantee of a gyno free cycle.

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    Excellent. Thanks for the reply and I appreciate the confidence you have in your product.
    I have never used prohormones or anabolics before so I am pretty excited about trying the product. I have been cutting for the past several months and I'm down 20 lbs to 183lbs at 15% BF. At 40 years old and 6'2" I'm ready to start my bulk. I plan to buy your Hardcore Muscle Stack (oral) at the end of next week when I return from a trip. Do I need to have anything else on hand just in case I do experience gyno symptoms or can I just change the dosing regiment of the Stack to combat symptoms if they occur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu King View Post
    Excellent. Thanks for the reply and I appreciate the confidence you have in your product.
    I have never used prohormones or anabolics before so I am pretty excited about trying the product. I have been cutting for the past several months and I'm down 20 lbs to 183lbs at 15% BF. At 40 years old and 6'2" I'm ready to start my bulk. I plan to buy your Hardcore Muscle Stack (oral) at the end of next week when I return from a trip. Do I need to have anything else on hand just in case I do experience gyno symptoms or can I just change the dosing regiment of the Stack to combat symptoms if they occur?
    You on propecia or any other prescription meds?

    Seriously. You are not going to get gyno unless there is some underlying cause that you not expressing to me.

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    has anyone actually tried this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primordial View Post
    You on propecia or any other prescription meds?

    Seriously. You are not going to get gyno unless there is some underlying cause that you not expressing to me.

    -Eric
    No, I'm not on Propecia or any other meds. I eat a very clean diet and the only supplements I take are fish oil and myoplex protein. I just don't want to run any risk of gyno. Seems like everyone suggests having Nolva on hand just in case but I really don't want to use it if I don't have to.

    Anyways, I just put in my order for your Hardcore Muscle Stack (oral) and once I receive the shipment I will start a journal on this board. I'm very dedicated and detailed so if the product works you'll get some good data from me. Keeping my fingers crossed!!

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    Hello all. Ok this is my ordeal.
    I joined Iron Magazine back in 2007 and was very active in the gym. With that being said, it’s now 2010 and for the last 2 years I have slowly watch myself decline in health and physique. I went from 180lbs of lean muscle to now weighing 208lbs of fat from drinking and unhealthy eating.
    I am now back in the gym trying to work off this fat, however I feel like it’s not working.
    I have only gotten bigger and thicker and what I’m trying to do is get cut up, ripped, and shred my fat. At this point I am willing to do/try anything if it’s been proven to work. I have wasted endless time and money on supplements, food, and new training techniques.

    MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL IS THIS….
    Should I try taking a cycle and if so what stack would you recommend? It would be my first time cycling. I read about the turinabol muscle stack but not sure if that’s the best for what I want to achieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBizKid View Post
    Hello all. Ok this is my ordeal.
    I joined Iron Magazine back in 2007 and was very active in the gym. With that being said, it’s now 2010 and for the last 2 years I have slowly watch myself decline in health and physique. I went from 180lbs of lean muscle to now weighing 208lbs of fat from drinking and unhealthy eating.
    I am now back in the gym trying to work off this fat, however I feel like it’s not working.
    I have only gotten bigger and thicker and what I’m trying to do is get cut up, ripped, and shred my fat. At this point I am willing to do/try anything if it’s been proven to work. I have wasted endless time and money on supplements, food, and new training techniques.

    MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL IS THIS….
    Should I try taking a cycle and if so what stack would you recommend? It would be my first time cycling. I read about the turinabol muscle stack but not sure if that’s the best for what I want to achieve.

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    31 yrs old, 5’10 208lbs, no pre-existing issues, cardio 4 times a week, healthy diet, currently on multi V, redline fat burner, and NO2.

    Can someone steer me in the right direction? PLEASE HELP!!!!!
    Turinabol is quite a bit stronger than the Dermacrine for lean mass gains.

    It doesnt sound like you want to add additional lean mass, but the stronger anabolic action from the turinabol will help you maintain the muscle while you cut your calories way down, which is what you really need to do to drop the BF.

    So, low carb diet for 4 weeks, then start a 6 week of a low cal keto diet while using Turinabol. That will take care of your needs especialy if you integrate some high intensity burst exercise.

    I did the exact same thing but with Superdrone (just because I never experienced a cut on superdrone) but I would suggest the Turinabol over the SD just to save yourself from the sides.

    -Eric

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    Dermacrine LV is now 30% more effective and 25% off during the Tax Return Sale
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    Still love the increased sense of well being I get from Dermacrine.
    Just wanted everyone to know that as of 7/16/2010 I will be stepping down as a Primordial Rep. All emails will be forwarded to John, aka Trauma, who will be stepping into my position. I will still be on all of the boards using this name.

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    Just wanted everyone to know that as of 7/16/2010 I will be stepping down as a Primordial Rep. All emails will be forwarded to John, aka Trauma, who will be stepping into my position. I will still be on all of the boards using this name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker View Post
    Still love the increased sense of well being I get from Dermacrine.
    I would think this would be a very useful product for battling adrenal fatigue or secondary hypogonadism while on AAS or HRT, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rahaas View Post
    I would think this would be a very useful product for battling adrenal fatigue or secondary hypogonadism while on AAS or HRT, right?
    If his DHEA is low, then Dermacrine will raise it.
    Its not going to "correct" adrenal fatigue or hypogonadism though
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    One of the sale announcements went out late so we've extended the sale for another 48 hours!!!

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    Sounds interesting but I'm not sure if it's safe or has no side effects in the long term. Anyone tried it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Q View Post
    Sounds interesting but I'm not sure if it's safe or has no side effects in the long term. Anyone tried it?
    Sides effects from DHEA are very mild. Some users have reported anxiety, but thats about it. Its mildly suppressive on hormone production so you want to limit cycles to 6 weeks to avoid suppressing natural hormone production.

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    Incase you havent heard about the discontinuation of the PH's, we only have a few dozen bottles of Dermacrine left -

    Dermacrine enhances sexual performance, reduces body fat, and increases lean muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primordial View Post
    Incase you havent heard about the discontinuation of the PH's, we only have a few dozen bottles of Dermacrine left -

    Dermacrine enhances sexual performance, reduces body fat, and increases lean muscle

    -Eric
    Don't miss out on this before it's gone for good!


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