Thread: wats the best fat burner out there

there is no best, but there are good ones.

stimulant based:
adrenalean, mitotropin, scorch etc.

non stimulant based:
lean xtreme.

Second lean x...

eating about 75 percent of your maintenance calories. Save the money.

Our Dermatherm Target is great for site specific fat loss. With our new years sale the Fat Loss Stack is 20% off.

Originally Posted by Rucker

site specific fat loss

I didn't realise site specific fat loss was possible? How is this achieved, i'm pretty intrigued.

Thanks

what abt elliptical trainer?

Originally Posted by Energy

I didn't realise site specific fat loss was possible? How is this achieved, i'm pretty intrigued.

Thanks

Yes, how exactly does that work Rucker?

Originally Posted by Energy

I didn't realise site specific fat loss was possible? How is this achieved, i'm pretty intrigued.

Thanks

Theophylline has been proven to target fat cells when applied topically. This is one of the actives in dermatherm target. You must be at a calorie deficit, as always. but this forces your body to burn these fat cells first. The study i read showed almost double the loss in waist circumference when used over a ten week period. We also have a bunch of logs on our forum and on AM, not sure its been logged yet here.

A reduced calorie diet followed by exercise.... I've never tried the hard stuff other than ephedrine/ephedra when it was legal back in high school. It only worked to suppress my appetite and i ate less and lost that way. There's clen and T3 I'm familiar with. I wouldn't recommend T3 though b/c it's a thyroid hormone and not taken correctly can screw your thyroid hormone up for life. But other than that good old fashioned calorie counting has been my 2nd best weight/fat loss avenue before. Other than taking but load of speed and not eating

Originally Posted by Rucker

Theophylline has been proven to target fat cells when applied topically. This is one of the actives in dermatherm target. You must be at a calorie deficit, as always. but this forces your body to burn these fat cells first. The study i read showed almost double the loss in waist circumference when used over a ten week period. We also have a bunch of logs on our forum and on AM, not sure its been logged yet here.

Do you have a link to the study?

Originally Posted by HeavyBomber

Do you have a link to the study?

Theophylline as a topical fat burner

Originally Posted by Rucker

Theophylline as a topical fat burner

Hey thanks for link

Originally Posted by Rucker

Our Dermatherm Target is great for site specific fat loss. With our new years sale the Fat Loss Stack is 20% off.

I bet this stuff is a magic bullet. Do you just rub it where you want to lose the fat and it disappears over night?

Originally Posted by Roids1

I bet this stuff is a magic bullet. Do you just rub it where you want to lose the fat and it disappears over night?

its a lotion, most of it is absorbed in about 5-10 minutes. and it goes where u want the fat gone

Personally, if I could find it, I would be LOADED on ephedrine right now. As far as this goes, I'm gonna leave the CLA and green tea out of it and say I'm skeptical, that is, till I can get of blackberry and on a compuyter and read the whole study... Where was the study originally published anyway?

early AM fasted HIIT cardio 4 days a week on top of normal PM weights routine with a tapered clean carb diet will do the trick

getting loaded on caffine and geranimine may or may not help, but sure is fun

Anybody heard of Force Factor from GNC?

Well my roommate uses it but he is lean from the start so i cannot really say that it keeps you slick

site specific fat loss is a load of bs. I can't believe none of the elders have chimed in on this thread yet...thats like saying "here's some pills or lotion to remove that third nipple, it'll be gone in 3 years, just keep staring at it while the lotion is on it, you'll see it disappear".

By yourself a decent thermogenic and research proper dieting/weight training.

Originally Posted by guybb3

Anybody heard of Force Factor from GNC?

GNC is overpriced. The only reason I would go in there is to ask the employee questions on supps just to see if they know the answers. Some might, but my suspicion is that most don't.

Originally Posted by mcguin

site specific fat loss is a load of bs. I can't believe none of the elders have chimed in on this thread yet...thats like saying "here's some pills or lotion to remove that third nipple, it'll be gone in 3 years, just keep staring at it while the lotion is on it, you'll see it disappear".

By yourself a decent thermogenic and research proper dieting/weight training.

You are surely entitled to your opinion. However, I've posted the study proving that it isn't BS.

I do agree that diet and training are far more important than supplements.

Originally Posted by j-pet

early AM fasted HIIT cardio 4 days a week on top of normal PM weights routine with a tapered clean carb diet will do the trick

getting loaded on caffine and geranimine may or may not help, but sure is fun

you know i used to think the same thing, and this might work for some but after reading a lengthy study in Weider's mag "they" found that EPOC is extended at night vs. morning........

Originally Posted by Rucker

GNC is overpriced. The only reason I would go in there is to ask the employee questions on supps just to see if they know the answers. Some might, but my suspicion is that most don't.

yeah..i like to watch the new employees try to squeeze their way out of a question with random bullshit..very entertaining

Anyone tried Prolabs Thermo Pro Epedra Free before? I took it for a month back in September 09 and ended up with fungal skin rashes (tinea) that won't go away till now

Originally Posted by thermoaddict

Anyone tried Prolabs Thermo Pro Epedra Free before? I took it for a month back in September 09 and ended up with fungal skin rashes (tinea) that won't go away till now

that's more likely from jerking off with cheese wizz

I don't get JO with lubricants. Seems like it's just more mess to clean up afterwards. It's so much easier to hold it by the sleeve and thrust. WOrks just as well and nothing but carb goo to wipe up when you're finished.

GICH!

Friction burns ma dem!

Sans Tight FEM is worth a try. I say this because the first time I tried one...not only was I wired, but uh, it got the bowels movin. That's always a sign for me that it's a good thermogenic

Also, the damn company refused to tell me exactly how much caffeine was in their product (kept beatin around the bush on the telephone). I suspect they might have laced it with somethin, lol.