Thread: Pink Magic??

its not gnc bs, its usplabs bs. there is a possibility of it working, but i would hold out for feedback before dropping a dime on it.

http://www.anthonyroberts.co.za/2010...-testosterone/

look as far as 'supplements' go, USPLabs produce some good products: innovative and effective within the limits of what they are.

Just remember, these are non-hormonal products and will never reproduce the results you'll get with Gears.

I use anabolic pump and pslin, and get good results.

innovative if you think random indian herbs thrown together with no science backing the claims made by the company is legit. they sell water chesnut extract and openly admit to having no idea how it works. the only thing that you can credit them with is cissus, and even then they weren't the first to introduce it. not a fan.

NNI,

Thanks for the link. Good info.

There is something about the name that just pisses me off. "Pink" and "Magic" are probably the last two words I look for when buying a supplement that's suppose to work.

yeah, but this has a good ring to it:

"CaptainNalpalm loves Pink Magic"

Originally Posted by TheCapt'n

yeah, but this has a good ring to it:

"CaptainNalpalm loves Pink Magic"

LOL

Can't disagree... that it does..

there has been a few logs on usplabs, all have had good results

werd, plenty of people got good results with USPlabs . . including some natty competitors I was following for a while ..

. . apart from being a fag, nni's problem is he's a pimp for 'Driven Sports' so obviously his opinion is skewed . .

One would think the "fag" part is a positive.


<- fag hag

Originally Posted by CaptainNapalm

There is something about the name that just pisses me off. "Pink" and "Magic" are probably the last two words I look for when buying a supplement that's suppose to work.

Sounds like a name for a butt plug or something.

Jacob and I discussed this in person in March, and he was sincerely excited about it. It was in very early in the testing stage, and he offered to send me some. I declined as I'm on testosterone. I do believe he had plenty of reason to be excited, though. The name is supposed to be a joke. The product should speak for itself. We don't need another "Mega Gorged Freak Tab Popper" on the market.

Originally Posted by Pirate!

Jacob and I discussed this in person in March, and he was sincerely excited about it. It was in very early in the testing stage, and he offered to send me some. I declined as I'm on testosterone. I do believe he had plenty of reason to be excited, though. The name is supposed to be a joke. The product should speak for itself. We don't need another "Mega Gorged Freak Tab Popper" on the market.

werd, I like that guy . . he's a straight shooter . . I got to trial his OEP before it hit the stores and got some good results . . when it comes to natty products Im digging some USPLabs

Originally Posted by TheCapt'n

werd, plenty of people got good results with USPlabs . . including some natty competitors I was following for a while ..

. . apart from being a fag, nni's problem is he's a pimp for 'Driven Sports' so obviously his opinion is skewed . .

pimp, really? how often do i talk about ds here? i support companies that put out quality products and if in the process i can help someone not waste money on crap, then i will try to do so. you want to support shitty products, go for it, wont change my views. add in the fact that i actually read studies and know the owners' history, i will not change because some random person on the internet wants to insult me.

lol nni . . take a chillpill mate, I was simply taking the piss

Originally Posted by TheCapt'n

lol nni . . take a chillpill mate, I was simply taking the piss

i dont know you for me to take being called a "fag" and a "pimp" as joking. give me a heads up next time.

I am on my third week of Pink Magic. Doesn't seem to be very effective to me.

I lost like 20 lbs of fat and gained 40 lbs over 8 weeks...then I took a huge dump

Again with the Anthony Roberts...who is this guy. Listen from the reading ive done he has his own supplement company (correct me if im wrong) Why would you trust any one who reviews supplement when he has his own business in the same industry. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but that is not an objective source. Best way to find out if the stuff works....ask people (in person, not over the internet) if it worked for them....

Hey alphasteel, I feel like we talked about this on another thread? lol But I agree. You obviously can't trust the company selling the product, we all know how a free market works, but likewise you can't trust someone who would be considered competition. I would be willing to try Pink Magic (don't really feel like paying for it) because I use Jack3d and like it.

Originally Posted by alphasteel

Again with the Anthony Roberts...who is this guy. Listen from the reading ive done he has his own supplement company (correct me if im wrong) Why would you trust any one who reviews supplement when he has his own business in the same industry. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but that is not an objective source. Best way to find out if the stuff works....ask people (in person, not over the internet) if it worked for them....

dont trust him, but his comments are accurate. there is a thread over at bb.com that ripped the ingredients apart. it isnt a well thought out formula.

Originally Posted by boxingorilla

Hey alphasteel, I feel like we talked about this on another thread? lol But I agree. You obviously can't trust the company selling the product, we all know how a free market works, but likewise you can't trust someone who would be considered competition. I would be willing to try Pink Magic (don't really feel like paying for it) because I use Jack3d and like it.

trust who you will, but you dont see me pushing bullshit and not supporting my views. i speak out when i see a scam of crap being pushed. use it, love your placebo, waste money, doesnt affect me. but if i can help you question what you are ingesting, then i am happy with that.

Originally Posted by nni

dont trust him, but his comments are accurate. there is a thread over at bb.com that ripped the ingredients apart. it isnt a well thought out formula.



trust who you will, but you dont see me pushing bullshit and not supporting my views. i speak out when i see a scam of crap being pushed. use it, love your placebo, waste money, doesnt affect me. but if i can help you question what you are ingesting, then i am happy with that.

Hey, I agree if you have an opinion speak it, experience speak it, some facts- share it. All I am saying the best way to know if a product works is to find someone who used it and ask. I would take the word of 4 or 5 people at my gym over a study using rats any day. I say ask someone in person because clearly there are people on the internet with an agenda...so take what is written here with a grain of salt.

Originally Posted by boxingorilla

Hey, I agree if you have an opinion speak it, experience speak it, some facts- share it. All I am saying the best way to know if a product works is to find someone who used it and ask. I would take the word of 4 or 5 people at my gym over a study using rats any day. I say ask someone in person because clearly there are people on the internet with an agenda...so take what is written here with a grain of salt.

thats where we differ. i would rather examine the studies first, then ask opinions. if i based everything on people's opinions i would be taking no-xplode stacked with jack3d and taking glutamine post workout. as you can see in this very thread, people HOPE products work and that changes their experience and with the product. placebo is a strong thing.

Originally Posted by nni

thats where we differ. i would rather examine the studies first, then ask opinions. if i based everything on people's opinions i would be taking no-xplode stacked with jack3d and taking glutamine post workout. as you can see in this very thread, people HOPE products work and that changes their experience and with the product. placebo is a strong thing.

With all due respect....

Placebo is everyone's favorite buzz word when it comes to supplements. I agree, we do differ in this area. Not that I don't trust the studies, but when I hear an herb was tested on a few lab rats I am not going to use that as my sole source of info, especially when the study was then used in a write up by a competitor in the supplement business. I am logical to a default. If I see some guys who are ripped in the gym and I ask them what their routine, diet, and supplements are like, I would take their experience with training/supplements over this study any day...regardless if they are pro or against Pink Magic.

Not to mention that the herbs in this controversial pink pill, have been used for medicinal purposes by indigenous peoples for hundreds of years...not to say thats a reason to do anything, but it should be noted.

Originally Posted by boxingorilla

With all due respect....

Placebo is everyone's favorite buzz word when it comes to supplements. I agree, we do differ in this area. Not that I don't trust the studies, but when I hear an herb was tested on a few lab rats I am not going to use that as my sole source of info, especially when the study was then used in a write up by a competitor in the supplement business. I am logical to a default. If I see some guys who are ripped in the gym and I ask them what their routine, diet, and supplements are like, I would take their experience with training/supplements over this study any day...regardless if they are pro or against Pink Magic.

Not to mention that the herbs in this controversial pink pill, have been used for medicinal purposes by indigenous peoples for hundreds of years...not to say thats a reason to do anything, but it should be noted.

i find the ripped/huge guys in the gym barely take any supplements and just workout hard and eat right. ive had conversations with big guys have no idea about supplements and some be very knowledgeable, so looks are not the end all be all of knowledge. educate yourself, all the while listening to others and make your own judgments.

usp has a habit of taking "ancient" herbs and making claims that are not valid and reselling them at a much higher price. prime is another example of this. i can take an ancient indian herb and claim that it will build muscle mass, but it doesnt make it true. now if i make a nice ad, and package it nicely, it will sell like crazy.

oh, and placebo is not a buzz word, it is absolutely real. arginine and a stimulant will not alter strength or body mass, but how many times have you heard people claim a product based on those two things did both.

rat studies are the backbone of the science/medicine industry. animal studies do not always translate well to humans (tribulus) but they are an indicator and many times are accurate. (many products out there are based on them, most are based on less)

i think we are both of different minds, so ill step out.

Originally Posted by nni

i find the ripped/huge guys in the gym barely take any supplements and just workout hard and eat right. ive had conversations with big guys have no idea about supplements and some be very knowledgeable, so looks are not the end all be all of knowledge. educate yourself, all the while listening to others and make your own judgments.

usp has a habit of taking "ancient" herbs and making claims that are not valid and reselling them at a much higher price. prime is another example of this. i can take an ancient indian herb and claim that it will build muscle mass, but it doesnt make it true. now if i make a nice ad, and package it nicely, it will sell like crazy.

oh, and placebo is not a buzz word, it is absolutely real. arginine and a stimulant will not alter strength or body mass, but how many times have you heard people claim a product based on those two things did both.

rat studies are the backbone of the science/medicine industry. animal studies do not always translate well to humans (tribulus) but they are an indicator and many times are accurate. (many products out there are based on them, most are based on less)

i think we are both of different minds, so ill step out.

Fair enough, we obviously do have different opinions on this. For me if Ginsing worked for thousands of years in China as libido and stamina enhancer and then its tests negative in ONE study with rats....I will believe it still works. Also I didn't say I didn't believe in the placebo effect, of course its real, I just said its a buzz word that people like to use. Placebo exists but there is no way thousands of positive reviews are all placebo.

As far as herbal supplements go, people either like them or don't think they work. How can a plant increase my testosterone, or how can a root help curb my appetite to lose weight? Well, the truth is I am a believer in holistic healing, and herbal remedies. So I'll take herbs over man-made chemicals any day....even if they are LESS potent. USPLabs makes solid herbal products (although their marketing is way too hype for me).

Anyway, I appreciate the dialogue...at the end of the day people need to do their own research, I just hope they look at from all angles, and not make a judgment after reading one study written by a competitor in the supplement industry.

I don't mind LESS potent. I draw the line at "ineffective".

I don't care about ONE study showing it didn't work in rats. But find me something demonstrating measurable effect in humans, and I'm ALL OVER IT!

one last thing, being as you are crediting usp with being herbal, almost every supplement you take is "herbal." in order for it to be dshea compliant it has to be found in a food source. extracts can isolate the active compounds, but it is still herbal in nature. most test boosters are simply plant extracts.