Can Nitro-Tech really be this good?

SVB99 · 09-11-2002, 11:24 PM

Lately, I've been reading alot of those Men's health and fitness magazine during spare time at work and they all concur that Nitro-Tech Protein supplements are really great. Now I realize that they could probably be paid for their endorsements of Meso-Techs Nitro-Tech but still, it has to pretty good, right? It's been said in most of these publications that it's 24X for effective than regular whey due to it's Nitrogen transportation system(which they love to point out is patented). Regular whey isn't delievered as effectively and a good portion of it is wasted due to it's unefficiency. They're not going out and saying that whey protein is bad or anything(it got a 3 out of 5 rating most of the mags) but Nitro-Tech was definitely held at a higher regard due to it's results. They claim the average user gained 6lbs. of lean muscle mass in 6 weeks from this and ONE guy got 15lbs. and 50 lbs. on his max bench press. 6lbs. to me sounds like a reasonable claim to make for a 6 week period combined with a good diet and proper weight training. What do you guys think? I can this supplement for free because I'm returning some trashy crap I bought from GNC so don't hold back for the price issue(it's kinda expensive).I bought that GNC Whey MRP and man was that bad. They claimed it only to be 260 calories dry but once you add some water, it's like drinking pancake batter. Money is not the issue.
Thanks,
Sam

**Mudge** · 09-11-2002, 11:42 PM

Could be they all concur because they are owned by the same company and getting the same advertising money, just a thought.

**dg806** · 09-12-2002, 05:59 AM

Crap!!! Don't believe everything you read!

Dr. Pain · 09-12-2002, 06:07 AM

It's "nothing" special, and "WHEY" overpriced!

Save your $$$$

DP

Fit Freak · 09-12-2002, 07:27 AM

WAY tooooo expensive.....cost is so high to cover all theadvertising expenses.

**Prince** · 09-12-2002, 09:22 AM

MuscleTech has great marketing & advertising, that's about it.

Robboe · 09-12-2002, 10:07 AM

A lot of people do gain a few lbs in a short time with nitro tech.

This is because it has creatine, it's on the label, but the adverts don't tell you this.

What you gain quickly is just water weight.

Fit Freak · 09-12-2002, 11:50 AM

Couldn't agree more Prince!

Twin Peak · 09-12-2002, 11:59 AM

Personally, I think Muscletech puts out good products. Are the 24 times better or provide 19 times the growth...yada yada yada....NO. But they are priced as if they are. So I'd use other stuff that is almost/just as good but much cheaper. But if money is no object go ahead!

(Caveat, I on occassion use celltech because I have found no results from any other creatine product).

oldschoolboy · 09-12-2002, 12:16 PM

The more the hype, the faster you should run...

irontime · 09-12-2002, 01:24 PM

?????WHA????? You mean if I keep loading up with Muscletech I won't look like Greg Kovaks in the next 3 months???? NOOOOOooooooooooo........

Twin Peak · 09-12-2002, 02:07 PM

They should list all the gear he is on as well.

Scotty the Body · 09-12-2002, 02:46 PM

WHAT You mean it wasn't the nitro tech?!? I don't believe it.

**Mudge** · 09-12-2002, 03:18 PM

Anyone want to take a guess at how many micracle success stories you see in the ads are steroids not supplements? 95%?

Robboe · 09-12-2002, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Personally, I think Muscletech puts out good products.

Well, i don't like nitro-tech. But i do like celltech. However, it's atrociously overpriced and not worth it because of it.

Home brew celltech is just as good/effective.

**Prince** · 09-12-2002, 04:03 PM

I use EAS micronized creatine.

bigss75 · 09-12-2002, 05:45 PM

AHHHH I going to

I am sick of muscletech poisoning the minds of bodybuilders it is crap

**dg806** · 09-12-2002, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Anyone want to take a guess at how many micracle success stories you see in the ads are steroids not supplements? 95%?

Let's try 99%!!

Twin Peak · 09-12-2002, 06:30 PM

Personally, I love the Priest "I just got out of jail and am a fat slob BEFORE" pics and the "I am back on juice and GH and oh that Nitrotech stuff is great" after pics.

SVB99 · 09-12-2002, 11:46 PM

Yeah, I can get it basically for free but I'd rather not waste it if it's not any good. I could use the store credit for something else. What else should I buy with the store credit for around $60?

Twin Peak · 09-13-2002, 07:55 AM

I am enjoying APM 60 from metrx.

ponyboy · 09-13-2002, 08:57 AM

I almost got a job working in their marketing department here in Toronto. Then I had to write an article on why their products were so much better than other similar products out there. I just couldn't ethically do it.

My working title was going to be "Muscletech: More money means we can advertise even more!"

Either that or "How to make a six page advertisement look like actual research!"

Funny that everyone I saw who worked in the department I would have been working in were not in very good shape.

irontime · 09-16-2002, 06:14 PM

I hate Muscletech for all the bullshit they throw out at people, but damnit, I have to admit they have the best tasting protein bars out there. I tried their smores and blueberry cheesecake bars and they taste great. Now I hear they have a cookies and cream bar, and I bet that tastes even bettter. Arrgghhh!!

Why Muscletech?! Anybody but them!

Badger · 09-16-2002, 06:49 PM

Muscle-Tech is extremely overated and overpriced. I have not been in this sport for that long really, but have been around long enough to have gone through a lot of supplements. Since talking to different people and reading different posts, and trying different products I have found that for the money it is not worth buying. Really for a fraction of the price you can buy micronized creatine and mix with grape (I prefer apple) juice and basically come out with the same results. Also this so called loading phase (which about all of the manufactures want you to do) is not necessary either.

It all comes down to what you want to believe and if you have the financial means to buy this stuff every couple of weeks, which by the way could go a long way twards buying a nice mansion, then help yourself.

bigss75 · 09-16-2002, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by irontime
I have to admit they have the best tasting protein bars out there. I tried their smores and blueberry cheesecake bars and they taste great. Now I hear they have a cookies and cream bar, and I bet that tastes even bettter. Arrgghhh!!

Why Muscletech?! Anybody but them!

the sugar on those are out the roof but they do taste good.

Twin Peak · 09-17-2002, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Badger
Muscle-Tech is extremely overated and overpriced. I have not been in this sport for that long really, but have been around long enough to have gone through a lot of supplements. Since talking to different people and reading different posts, and trying different products I have found that for the money it is not worth buying. Really for a fraction of the price you can buy micronized creatine and mix with grape (I prefer apple) juice and basically come out with the same results. Also this so called loading phase (which about all of the manufactures want you to do) is not necessary either.

It all comes down to what you want to believe and if you have the financial means to buy this stuff every couple of weeks, which by the way could go a long way twards buying a nice mansion, then help yourself.

Some of this is true and I agree with (i.e. the products being overpriced), but it is the same Muscletech bashing that I find so confusing. First, THEY PUT OUT A GOOD PRODUCT! And since when did Americans have a problem with a company taking its products and making them "top shelf" through marketing? Are some of their claims ridiculous? Of course -- but no worse than EVERY OTHER company! Lighten up people. You don't want to use muscletech fine, but its a solid company, though overpriced.

Personally I agree and do not use their products except celltech (creatine and juice or an other transport does nothing for me.)

Also Badger I take umbrage with your comments re loading. You state that as a matter of fact loading "is not necessary".

That is not fact or at least not an accurate one. Necssary for what? If you want to saturate your muscle cells with creatine withing 5 days (as opposed to several weeks) it is my belief that you SHOULD load. If you don't care that it take several weeks for the cells to be saturated than loading "is not necessary."

Now, I will qualify my statement and not that experts disagree on this point, but it certainly is not scientific fact that loading is a waste of time and money, which was the implication of your statement.

09-11-2002, 11:24 PM	#1
SVB99 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ft. Worth, Tx Posts: 54	Can Nitro-Tech really be this good? Lately, I've been reading alot of those Men's health and fitness magazine during spare time at work and they all concur that Nitro-Tech Protein supplements are really great. Now I realize that they could probably be paid for their endorsements of Meso-Techs Nitro-Tech but still, it has to pretty good, right? It's been said in most of these publications that it's 24X for effective than regular whey due to it's Nitrogen transportation system(which they love to point out is patented). Regular whey isn't delievered as effectively and a good portion of it is wasted due to it's unefficiency. They're not going out and saying that whey protein is bad or anything(it got a 3 out of 5 rating most of the mags) but Nitro-Tech was definitely held at a higher regard due to it's results. They claim the average user gained 6lbs. of lean muscle mass in 6 weeks from this and ONE guy got 15lbs. and 50 lbs. on his max bench press. 6lbs. to me sounds like a reasonable claim to make for a 6 week period combined with a good diet and proper weight training. What do you guys think? I can this supplement for free because I'm returning some trashy crap I bought from GNC so don't hold back for the price issue(it's kinda expensive).I bought that GNC Whey MRP and man was that bad. They claimed it only to be 260 calories dry but once you add some water, it's like drinking pancake batter. Money is not the issue. Thanks, Sam

09-11-2002, 11:42 PM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,994 Photos: 1	Could be they all concur because they are owned by the same company and getting the same advertising money, just a thought.
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09-12-2002, 05:59 AM	#3
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,127	Crap!!! Don't believe everything you read!
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09-12-2002, 07:27 AM	#5
Fit Freak Fit Freak Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,797 Photos: 6	WAY tooooo expensive.....cost is so high to cover all theadvertising expenses.
	Searching for the right balance...

09-12-2002, 09:22 AM	#6
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,510 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	MuscleTech has great marketing & advertising, that's about it.
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09-12-2002, 06:07 AM	#4
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	It's "nothing" special, and "WHEY" overpriced! Save your $$$$ DP

09-12-2002, 10:07 AM	#7
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	A lot of people do gain a few lbs in a short time with nitro tech. This is because it has creatine, it's on the label, but the adverts don't tell you this. What you gain quickly is just water weight.
	Being held down by The Man

09-12-2002, 11:50 AM	#8
Fit Freak Fit Freak Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,797 Photos: 6	Couldn't agree more Prince!
	Searching for the right balance...

09-12-2002, 11:59 AM	#9
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	Personally, I think Muscletech puts out good products. Are the 24 times better or provide 19 times the growth...yada yada yada....NO. But they are priced as if they are. So I'd use other stuff that is almost/just as good but much cheaper. But if money is no object go ahead! (Caveat, I on occassion use celltech because I have found no results from any other creatine product).
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09-12-2002, 12:16 PM	#10
oldschoolboy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 14	The more the hype, the faster you should run...

09-12-2002, 01:24 PM	#11
irontime The Original Jackass Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: If not here, then on some porn site. Posts: 5,101 Photos: 1	?????WHA????? You mean if I keep loading up with Muscletech I won't look like Greg Kovaks in the next 3 months???? NOOOOOooooooooooo........
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09-12-2002, 02:07 PM	#12
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	They should list all the gear he is on as well.
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09-12-2002, 02:46 PM	#13
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	WHAT You mean it wasn't the nitro tech?!? I don't believe it.
	Cool

09-12-2002, 03:18 PM	#14
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,994 Photos: 1	Anyone want to take a guess at how many micracle success stories you see in the ads are steroids not supplements? 95%?
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-12-2002, 04:03 PM	#16
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,510 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	I use EAS micronized creatine.
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09-12-2002, 05:45 PM	#17
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,123	AHHHH I going to I am sick of muscletech poisoning the minds of bodybuilders it is crap

09-12-2002, 06:30 PM	#19
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	Personally, I love the Priest "I just got out of jail and am a fat slob BEFORE" pics and the "I am back on juice and GH and oh that Nitrotech stuff is great" after pics.
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09-12-2002, 11:46 PM	#20
SVB99 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ft. Worth, Tx Posts: 54	Yeah, I can get it basically for free but I'd rather not waste it if it's not any good. I could use the store credit for something else. What else should I buy with the store credit for around $60?

09-13-2002, 07:55 AM	#21
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	I am enjoying APM 60 from metrx.
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09-13-2002, 08:57 AM	#22
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	I almost got a job working in their marketing department here in Toronto. Then I had to write an article on why their products were so much better than other similar products out there. I just couldn't ethically do it. My working title was going to be "Muscletech: More money means we can advertise even more!" Either that or "How to make a six page advertisement look like actual research!" Funny that everyone I saw who worked in the department I would have been working in were not in very good shape.
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09-16-2002, 06:14 PM	#23
irontime The Original Jackass Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: If not here, then on some porn site. Posts: 5,101 Photos: 1	I hate Muscletech for all the bullshit they throw out at people, but damnit, I have to admit they have the best tasting protein bars out there. I tried their smores and blueberry cheesecake bars and they taste great. Now I hear they have a cookies and cream bar, and I bet that tastes even bettter. Arrgghhh!! Why Muscletech?! Anybody but them!
	If god were suddenly condemned to live the life which he has inflicted on man, he would kill himself. - Alexander Dumas (1802 - 1870)

09-16-2002, 06:49 PM	#24
Badger What tan line? Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Down south Posts: 1,115	Muscle-Tech is extremely overated and overpriced. I have not been in this sport for that long really, but have been around long enough to have gone through a lot of supplements. Since talking to different people and reading different posts, and trying different products I have found that for the money it is not worth buying. Really for a fraction of the price you can buy micronized creatine and mix with grape (I prefer apple) juice and basically come out with the same results. Also this so called loading phase (which about all of the manufactures want you to do) is not necessary either. It all comes down to what you want to believe and if you have the financial means to buy this stuff every couple of weeks, which by the way could go a long way twards buying a nice mansion, then help yourself.

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