Thread: Coming Soon - Super-DMZ Rx from IronMagLabs

I will be looking for some testers/loggers also who will receive the product free in exchange for a daily log/journal and short review.

Originally Posted by Prince

I will be looking for some testers/loggers also who will receive the product free in exchange for a daily log/journal and short review.

Well that should be easy to find

can't believe you used the name.

Hmm...interesting. How does it compare to the original from DS? Mdrol is crap...

Originally Posted by nni

can't believe you used the name.

it will work well from a marketing stand point, the compound itself is not banned (yet).

also, my first batch is only going to be 1,000 bottles, so if I have to change the name on the second batch it's no biggie.

Originally Posted by SenorBlumpkin

Hmm...interesting. How does it compare to the original from DS? Mdrol is crap...

the two you are referring to are the same compound. this version should be weaker.

Originally Posted by Prince

it will work well from a marketing stand point, the compound itself is not banned (yet).

also, my first batch is only going to be 1,000 bottles, so if I have to change the name on the second batch it's no biggie.

i think the name is still trademarked, be careful.

A prohomone? Well, I'm out

Good luck with it bro!

Originally Posted by nni

i think the name is still trademarked, be careful.

I gave this a lot of thought and decided to make a last minute change, luckily the labels were set to be printed today and I stopped them, the label name will now read Super-DMZ Rx. I don't think it would be an issue since Anabolic Xtreme no longer makes a Superdrol product, but better safe than sorry.

Thanks for chiming in here though!

I'll be more than happy to log.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

I'll be more than happy to log.

okay, but you cannot be using any gear.

Originally Posted by Prince

okay, but you cannot be using any gear.

whoops

Original DS super and Mdrol is not the same product...Mdrol uses a different isomer and has had many "bunk" batches.

Originally Posted by Prince

it will work well from a marketing stand point, the compound itself is not banned (yet).

also, my first batch is only going to be 1,000 bottles, so if I have to change the name on the second batch it's no biggie.

By the way Rob...I think it is very cool that you started this little supplement line, even though we both know how hard that is, and you kept it going...and NOW it keeps growing. That is pretty awesome!

Originally Posted by Prince

we expect to have Super-DMZ Rx available in the next 2-3 weeks! (no price has been set yet)

the compound is: 17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17, beta-dimethyl 5alpha, -androstan3-on azine

nomenclature on label is wrong.

correct nomenclature for dimethazine (aka mebolazine, or roxilon) should be: 17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17 alpha-dimethyl 5alpha, -androstan3-on azine

you cant have a 17b hydroxy position, and a 17beta methyl position.

it's impossible.

and steroids have to have a 17b hydroxy position, which is why the methyl is in the 17alpha position.



would of posted the label, but i dont have enough post. anyhow, this is all iforces fault, they messed it up first, and everyone is following suit.

Originally Posted by SenorBlumpkin

Hmm...interesting. How does it compare to the original from DS? Mdrol is crap...

mdrol was claimed to be a methdrostanolone clone. but it's label claimed it was a b isomer version of methyl drostanolone, making it a different compound all together, and one that doesn't do anything. this was an actual label error. mdrol was probably tainted, but not with a b isomer steroid, but most likely something else. like dhea, as was done before with their m14add.

methyldrostanolone (superdrol) is already methylated masteron, with an additional methyl group added to make make it a di methyl. 2a methylated, and 17a methylated.

dimethazine, (mebolazine, roxilon) is two methyldrostanolone molecules with an added azine (nitrogen) bond.

when this bond is broken in the stomach, you get methyldrostanolone with a nitrogen molecule attached to it, making it a less potent form of superdrol.

less anabolic/androgenic.

210/95 for dimethazine compared to 400/20 for methyldrostanolone.

and this is not a pro hormone, but a steroid, just like superdrol, epistane, halodrol, m14add.

Looks like a good product,

JB knows his shit damn, reps brah.

thanks bro.

also, I messed up, dimethazine is less anabolic, but more androgenic than superdrol.*

Originally Posted by jbryand101b

nomenclature on label is wrong.

correct nomenclature for dimethazine (aka mebolazine, or roxilon) should be: 17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17 alpha-dimethyl 5alpha, -androstan3-on azine

you cant have a 17b hydroxy position, and a 17beta methyl position.

it's impossible.

and steroids have to have a 17b hydroxy position, which is why the methyl is in the 17alpha position.



would of posted the label, but i dont have enough post. anyhow, this is all iforces fault, they messed it up first, and everyone is following suit.

thanks for the input, I just listen to my manufacturer's chemist on these things, I will bring this up to him so the next label run can be corrected.

we're hoping to have this in stock next week!!!

for someone who doesnt know to much about pro hormones, how does this stack up against 1 andro rx, i took that with good results a few months back.

different compounds. 1-andro is a dhea derived 2 step pro hormone. conversion isn't a one way street. and also isn't a guranteed thing.

dimethazine (mebolazine) is an already active oral methylated steroid, and will do what it was designed to do, and possibly more.

caution should be taken when using oral methylated steroids. they can be used safely, but only if used responsibly.

Originally Posted by jbryand101b

different compounds. 1-andro is a dhea derived 2 step pro hormone. conversion isn't a one way street. and also isn't a guranteed thing.

dimethazine (mebolazine) is an already active oral methylated steroid, and will do what it was designed to do, and possibly more.

caution should be taken when using oral methylated steroids. they can be used safely, but only if used responsibly.

as in proper dosage and proper pct?

Originally Posted by Prince

we're hoping to have this in stock next week!!!

Has the price point been set for this yet?

I'm guessing $43.95

Originally Posted by nova1970sb

as in proper dosage and proper pct?

yep, and also cycle length.

sometimes people get in their head orals can be ran for 12 weeks like injectables.

this is not safe, as well as all data done on oral gains, show they pretty much stop after 6-8 weeks. so it is pointless to continue using them, your just causing more un needed damage to your body.

injectables have long esters, and take time to build up in the blood stream.

orals begin working immediately.

the fact that it takes time to build actual muscle i believe is why people say things like, sd didn't kick in till week 3, or you gotta wait to build up sufficient levels. orals have short half lives. there is no build up in your system. the best you can do is keep levels steady by dosing properly.

so an oral like this would probly be only really needed for a one month cycle. what pct do you think would be ok with this. would 6-trione alone be sufficient? or would you have to get into the milk thistle?

I will be very interested in seing some of these logs soon.

Originally Posted by zombul

I will be very interested in seing some of these logs soon.

Same here