Train hard and eat right-that's the way to go. Diet is the biggest factor.
ya i am trying to cut down as much as i can in 3 4 months.i dont really use supplements beside protein and Creatine. i was looking at getting a stack which can help me keep my muscle mass,give good pumps and helps lose fat. dont want to spend lots of money but. or is it just better to train hard and eat right.![]()


Train hard and eat right-that's the way to go. Diet is the biggest factor.


when dieting down I usually include the following supplements:
creatine
acetyl-l-carnitine
EGCG
BCAA
L-Glutamine
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
Diet and exercise is the most important. Nothing will work without that. Here is what I am currently taking for my cut.
Oxyelite Pro
Lean Xtreme
Albuterol
BCAA's
Carnitine
Arginine
First time on OEP. I can vouch for Lean Xtreme and Albuterol. The OEP does help with appetite and warms me up a bit. Doesnt mean it is "burning fat".

couple thoughts:
you'll have to decide if you're going to lose fat, or build muscle...you really can't focus on both at the same time.
as far as supps go, I'm a big fan of Sesamin oil while cutting and something to control cortisol (I like relora and ashwagandha).

and, BCAA's (also mentioned above)...comes in handy when cutting to keep you from digging into your LBM.
I am actually dropping weight right now. My regimen is this:
Need2Slin
WheyToBuildMuscle
BCAA
Glutamine
The staple of my supplement is Need2Slin. The vascularity I recieved within one week is amazing!


diet and HIIT cardio . . clenbuterol and casein . .maybe some BCAAs . . all in that order
TheCaptn' is not a registered proctologist. His post are for his amusement only. Please seek proper medical advice if symptoms persist.
I used that clenbuterol several years ago and it made a very big difference. I only did 2, 3 wk cycles with a 3 wk break between the two. I also get bronchitis once a year during the year and while taking that during the winter was the first year in many that I did not. I'm a big fan of Clen, though i have only stuck with eating right, cardio, and extra whey protein since.
A little out of date with my computer lingo. Understand what your saying, but IMO??
I took what you said and looked up albuterol. Looks very promising. I have yet to look at the price comparison between the two, but as far as the effects and what is typically trying to be achieved when taking either of the products I would have to say that albuterol definitely looks like it wins over clen. Thanks for the heads up. Going to look into it a little more
Last edited by legend 84; 09-18-2010 at 03:19 PM.
IMO = in my opinion
Price is about the same. I prefer getting Rx caplets in 4mg. I take 3-4 a day. You can get it in liquid if your doing research on your lab rats or something but I trust an Rx better. If you can get a prescription they are on the $4 walmart list too. I always start my morning cardio on an empty stomach with albuterol and BCAA's.
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