Thread: Searching for a new pre-workout

I stick with simple creatine mono & grape juice.

Originally Posted by Du

I stick with simple creatine mono & grape juice.

Never thought about adding grape juice.

Jack3d comes in grape now. I like it. Good flavor. I also take ON whey about 30 min before just to have some fuel to burn.

Try AAEFX K-Otic! Brand new...easy on stomach...tastes good...energy lasts for hours.

Recently, I've tried No Xplode but after a while, stopped seeing results. I have also tried Jack3D Tropical Fruit Punch and I can barely get it down - and keep it down! LOL Then there's Xpand Xtreme - which was NOT smooth at all. Anadraulic State GT was horrible tasting lol.

Originally Posted by Alex30

Recently, I've tried No Xplode but after a while, stopped seeing results.

Placebo effect aside, the effects you experience are limited by the ingredients of the supplement. The active ingredients in nearly all of these preworkout supplements include a stimulant (caffeine), a nitric oxide precursor (that's what gives you 'pumps', it's usually various forms of l-arginine), and perhaps some carbs. Aside from elements such as mixability, taste, price etc., the ingredients between, say, Jack3d and NO Xplode are nearly identical.

Therefore, can you explain how you determined that you stopped 'seeing results'? What results are you looking for from a Coca-Cola or two worth of caffeine?

If you are interested in the stimulant effect as well as some pumps, I'd recommend picking up some caffeine tablets and l-arginine at any drug store. Two hundred 200mg caffeine tabs are about $5 and the l-arginine isn't very expensive either. A caffeine tab and a serving or two of l-arginine (you can experiment with the dosages) and you're getting the ingredients that are in the supplements for a far less expensive price.

Originally Posted by Marat

Placebo effect aside, the effects you experience are limited by the ingredients of the supplement. The active ingredients in nearly all of these preworkout supplements include a stimulant (caffeine), a nitric oxide precursor (that's what gives you 'pumps', it's usually various forms of l-arginine), and perhaps some carbs. Aside from elements such as mixability, taste, price etc., the ingredients between, say, Jack3d and NO Xplode are nearly identical.

Therefore, can you explain how you determined that you stopped 'seeing results'? What results are you looking for from a Coca-Cola or two worth of caffeine?

If you are interested in the stimulant effect as well as some pumps, I'd recommend picking up some caffeine tablets and l-arginine at any drug store. Two hundred 200mg caffeine tabs are about $5 and the l-arginine isn't very expensive either. A caffeine tab and a serving or two of l-arginine (you can experiment with the dosages) and you're getting the ingredients that are in the supplements for a far less expensive price.

With NO-Xplode, I noticed that, at first, it worked really well (gave tons of energy, stamina and better pumps) and I could feel it right away... And probably due to the amount of stims, I felt like I became "immune" to it - rather quickly too.

I've always really liked Fast Twitch. It comes in a version with or without caffeine (I think it's just the Lemonade flavored one).

Originally Posted by vortrit

I've always really liked Fast Twitch. It comes in a version with or without caffeine (I think it's just the Lemonade flavored one).

probably one of if not the best pre workout I have used ever.

very,very solid!

Before spending money on anything, I want to try it first. After asking around, I was given the opportunity to try something that hasn't hit the market yet - (it will be available in October). I'm really stoked about trying it!

Originally Posted by IronPotato

probably one of if not the best pre workout I have used ever.

very,very solid!

Yeah, it's always been my favorite!

Originally Posted by vortrit

Yeah, it's always been my favorite!

But does it put you on edge, or just a high energy level?

I've been using NO-Xplode with no complaints, but I'll pick up a bottle of Jack3d since it's #1 on bodybuilding.com's supplements list...

I use Nano Vapor in pill form and also NOP-47 pre workout protein about 30 min prior to workout.

As Marat says, there are a ton of products out there for pre-workout. The ingredients are nearly identical. In my opinion, if you find one you like, just stick with it.

You will drive yourself crazy if you try something new all of the time.

Originally Posted by REDDOG309

But does it put you on edge, or just a high energy level?

High energy level. It has never made me jittery or anything. They do make a version without caffeine (the lemonade flavor) too. The fruit punch and grape flavors contain caffeine.

^^^Thanks, i think i will give it a try. been looking for a little boost before heading to the gym.

Originally Posted by REDDOG309

^^^Thanks, i think i will give it a try. been looking for a little boost before heading to the gym.

It's pretty good and worth a try. The gym here used to serve single servings of it for $1.00 before they closed down.

Originally Posted by JMRQ

I've been using NO-Xplode with no complaints, but I'll pick up a bottle of Jack3d since it's #1 on bodybuilding.com's supplements list...

Apparently I am late to this game... I just got a bottle of NOxplode. I've always been a straight mono&fructose guy, and I can't say I am very impressed with NOx yet.

mono and fructose? You mean glucose, right?

Originally Posted by Built

mono and fructose? You mean glucose, right?

Not glucose (at least, not directly).

Cheap-label creatine monohydrate, with store brand grape "juice" and water. So both, a little fructose and a lot of sucrose.

Why would you WANT fructose?

Originally Posted by Built

Why would you WANT fructose?

It comes along with the wonderful taste of grape juice.

I don't care for it, it's not important. Shouldn't have mentioned it above as it's not the goal in my pre-wo chug.

LMAO try glucose. Cheap and effective. You could toss in a squeeze of lemon and a dash of half-salt and you'll have preworkout lemonaid that works.

Originally Posted by Built

LMAO try glucose. Cheap and effective. You could toss in a squeeze of lemon and a dash of half-salt and you'll have preworkout lemonaid that works.

Well shit..... I just bought this snazzy tub of NoXplod!

Originally Posted by gopro

Try AAEFX K-Otic! Brand new...easy on stomach...tastes good...energy lasts for hours.

Otic? Hopefully this preworkout supplement does not go in your ear...

Originally Posted by gopro

Try AAEFX K-Otic! Brand new...easy on stomach...tastes good...energy lasts for hours.

No shit you'll get a buzz from that! 300mg of caffeine in a scoop, plus an undisclosed amount of L-Tyrosine and tea catechins. 50 bucks for 32 servings though. Ouch!

http://www.aaefx.com/dev/downloads/C...supp_facts.pdf

It has the potential to be a decent supp, provided it supplies sufficient doses of the creatine, arginine, citrulline malate, beta alanine and a few other odds and ends it contains. One scoop weighs 14g, and about a gram of it is taken up by the caffeine and calcium, leaving 13 grams for the rest. I like to take at least 5g of creatine and at least 2g each of tyrosine and arginine. That leaves 5g for the citrulline malate, beta alanine etc plus the carriers. It's possible there's enough of the actives, barely. But I just can't tell.

That's why I'll never buy a product with a proprietary blend. Fortunately, it's pretty easy to make your own once you look up the individual components and dose them appropriately from bulk supps. That's why personally I'd mix up my own homebrew - these guys have some excellent info on how various components work together: Citrulline malate + tyrosine: stack these two supplements for high-energy workouts | Flex | Find Articles at BNET

Originally Posted by Built

LMAO try glucose. Cheap and effective. You could toss in a squeeze of lemon and a dash of half-salt and you'll have preworkout lemonaid that works.

Originally Posted by Du

Well shit..... I just bought this snazzy tub of NoXplod!

Or that.

Make us up a tub; you could name it GitBuilt. I could be your beta tester.

ASGT new flavor is much better I add more stims