Thread: Man Dies of Caffeine Overdose prompting possible Ban

Originally Posted by Gazhole

Acute toxic dose is dependent on bodyweight and individual sensitivity, if an average 70kg man who had never taken caffeine before took 5 grams in one dose i would be worried. 10 grams and he'd surely die soon after.

Also depends on susceptibility to heart failure resulting from that level of CNS stimulation, too. If you have a heart condition, a previous heart condition, or even a family history of sudden cardiac death or CHD, then caffeine probably isn't the supplement for you. To a lesser extent, the same goes for high blood pressure.

You can also get fucked up by taking a relatively low does (50-200mg) on a regular basis for an extended length of time. You can even get withdrawal symptoms and everything.

Drugs are drugs. Just because they sell it in shops doesn't mean they can't do damage easily. I think its easy to forget that even paracetamol and aspirin can kill you, and some people pop them like candy.

Hell, even chocolate has a lethal dose. Its a few pounds, but i'm sure some fatty somewhere has managed it.

We can also add Vitaminc C being potentially toxic in excess of 2,000mg and H20, because water toxicity is actually fatal.

Originally Posted by VolcomX311

We can also add Vitaminc C being potentially toxic in excess of 2,000mg and H20, because water toxicity is actually fatal.

Thankfully vit C is water soluble so its fairly difficult to OD on it. Hell, i've taken 1000mg at once regularly.

Didn't a woman die of hyponatremia lately in some dumb competition to win a Wii? I think it was a radio show, and the tagline was "Don't Wee and win a Wii" or something.

Basically, contestants had to see how much they could drink and "hold it in". Woman was trying to win one for Xmas or birthday for her kid, and died.

Don't they research this shit before putting it on the air?

Originally Posted by Gazhole

Thankfully vit C is water soluble so its fairly difficult to OD on it. Hell, i've taken 1000mg at once regularly.

Didn't a woman die of hyponatremia lately in some dumb competition to win a Wii? I think it was a radio show, and the tagline was "Don't Wee and win a Wii" or something.

Basically, contestants had to see how much they could drink and "hold it in". Woman was trying to win one for Xmas or birthday for her kid, and died.

Don't they research this shit before putting it on the air?

Yeah, it was two years ago. She drank like 3 gallons straight or something an died from water toxicity.

Originally Posted by VolcomX311

Yeah, it was two years ago. She drank like 3 gallons straight or something an died from water toxicity.

Isn't overhydration part of the more common reason people on E die frequently?

No don't say to banned caffeine..If you thinnk it will harm people and cause their deaths then stop those people for using it...

Originally Posted by |Z|

Isn't overhydration part of the more common reason people on E die frequently?

Quite the opposite. It's the dehydration. XTC causes major dehydration and a lot of those rave venues are inside, clustered, hot and those kids are candy hopping for hours. In many smaller venues, regular sized water bottles are sold for around $5.00-$10.00 for this reason, to bank on the need for H20 when you're rolling. Plus your jugdement is clouded & your way over-happy when you're rolling and they'd probably be able to squeeze $20 out of you if they really wanted. The big mega raves I think have more legal liabilities and make H20 a bit more accessible.

That said, there are still more purely XTC O.D. deaths then dehydration to the best of my knowledge.

Yeah, I'm going to go buy some OTC tylenol/advil/aspirin/nyquil and consume the whole bottle and die. You'll never see any of those substances banned.

Every year in the U.S. over 100,000 people are hospitalized and over 16,000 will die from NSAID use and misuse. According to one study, 1 in every 1,200 people who take an NSAID for at least two months will die from related gastrointestinal complications.

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