Thread: about cortisol control

insulin is the best fighter of cortisol

Originally Posted by LAM

insulin is the best fighter of cortisol

Really?
in fact I used GHRps and GHRHs w/ insulin ...so this is the why my cortisol is always high.
supposing i don't want use real exogenous insulin administration (i've never used it ,u know),but,say,I'ld like to use some stuf which increase my own insulin release ,so,what supplement,stuf do u suggest me to use?

also this please: a friend told me to use a supplement as Humanobol of Revolutions for cortisol control ,do u know?

also this please again: I have a ton of ?s about peptides too ,should I post in 'anabolic zone' or better in 'research chemicals' yes I know. But my friend ,I get the feeling u have very knoledge about...so can I post them here into this topic?
the point is much easy : it's matter how,what the best way to exit from Gh cycles is? i.e. supposing u used just only GH administrations and supposing u've never used secretagogues,GH stimolators supplements and analogues stuf in your life...........just only shynthetic exogenous GH administration.
so now u own a GH deficiency(GHRH test in hospital has diagnosized it). Then imagine u remain under/on hGH deficiency for three long years.(w/o taking nothing to stimulate your own Gh at pituitary).
Then it comes a fine day in which u discover secretagogues,GH stimulators supplements.
in afew words my friend,that's story of mine,u know. I'm trying for two months to heal from hGH deficiency through GHRP-6 +sermorelin using.now I got CJC-1295 either w/o DAC or w/ DAC. by a few days I'll start cjc w/o DAC+GHRP-6. when I'll get to end using the two vials,I'll try CJC w/ DAC too. does CJC w/ DAC works alone too,right? doesn't it need ghrp+6,right?

what would u do in the place of mine? do u know if it exist stuff more powerfull than GHRPs and GHRHs in order to 'start-jump' own GH release at pituitary or not?
A guy told me LG GH Enerate (or Generate the name now is?) can increase your own Gh over 900%....I replied: Wow man. so,I wondering if CJC-1295 DAC is less powerful... I assume not. what do u use after heavy hGH cycles? (I mean in order to get correctly 'to exit' from GH cycles w/ negative feedback on your own right GH release)

so do u think is right this chemical protocol?:
GHRP-6 100mcg + mod GRF(1-29) 100mcg 2-3 times at day (I'm 200 lBs)
a product as LG Slin for control cortisol and raise a bit my own isnulin realease (how many times daily and what dosage?)8or should I buy a diffrent brand and product? please can suggest me about better products?)
Mukuna Puriensis with 40% Dopa for cortisol control too and improve GH release (where can I find it at over more than 40% Dopa?)
should i take T3 by SAN or Oxylite Pro by USP Labs in order to support my own T3? (or What product?) ( I read GH can lower your own T3 production)
please suggets me efficacious,safe products/gears/medicines if those above don't work good.thanx
(now I go to sleep.heer in Italy is 1:30 a.m. see you tomorrow when I'll wake up....oh yes,so u'll sleep LOL. a big hug to the whole Las Vegas ).
(also this I was foorgotten: what a very good,efficacious made USA GH stimulators supplement is? I just bought HGH Complete and LG Generate on-line, but I didn't saw about GH Stcak by Muscle milk is more expensive.....so I assume is better ,isn't it? )

Originally Posted by LAM

insulin is the best fighter of cortisol

also: in this link (i cannot sticky iy 'cause i've just 10 post..so the home system doesn't permit me to)
Bodybuilding.coms - Shawn’s Blog - Cortisol CONTROL

he wrote cortisol can increase when,if GH release of yours isn NOT good.( as old peolple)
so,about high cortisol value of mine could be simply the fact my gh release is weak.
in fact I remember cortisol was high till for 3 year ago when I started to have a gh deficiency.
so i assume cjc DAC could resolve all problem of mine.(however yes,this time,i want to try to use GHRPs and GHRHs once I'll own a good insulin booster too,which raise your own insulin secretion.)(sorry,but i've not try to use real insulin..not again...however i don't wanna to start it now,expecially when i've gh deficiency again. so now,i'ld like to use just a stimolator/promoter/supporter supplement which increase yours own,u know).
so,please tell me please which/what insulin booster supplement should I buy,thanx

sorry I should have stated that following a high carb diet and having elevated insulin levels would be a natural way to help fight cortisol. GHRps and GHRHs w/ insulin I don't know anything about those compounds in terms of administering them properly, this post needs to be in the Anabolic section.

Originally Posted by LAM

sorry I should have stated that following a high carb diet and having elevated insulin levels would be a natural way to help fight cortisol. this post needs to be in the Anabolic section.

no,no. u cannot 'cause ghrps(andghrhs too) are hyperglicemic,so u cannot eat too much carbs,sugar,etc,u know

Originally Posted by LAM

this post needs to be in the Anabolic section.

ok ..where exactly?

Originally Posted by LAM

sorry I should have stated that following a high carb diet and having elevated insulin levels would be a natural way to help fight cortisol. GHRps and GHRHs w/ insulin I don't know anything about those compounds in terms of administering them properly, this post needs to be in the Anabolic section.

i'll post it on chemical research forum under the title " how to jump-start your own Gh and other 1,000 questions"

Originally Posted by starchild

..and what stuf do u suggest me in order to control my cortisol when i'll start to use ghrps ,expecially cjc-1295 dac?
(mukuna puriens?) (hasn't cem products anything for cortisol control too?)

11-oxo.

Originally Posted by VolcomX311

11-oxo.

whats the differance between 11 oxo (aka 11-sterone) and competitive edge labs suppress-c?

Originally Posted by awhites1

whats the differance between 11 oxo (aka 11-sterone) and competitive edge labs suppress-c?

Good question and a technical one to answer, but I'll do my best. 11-OXO aka 11-sterone is a selective inhibitor of 11b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type I reductase. 11b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type I reductase turns cortisone to cortisol and by inhibiting this process, you therefore, reduce cortisol.

Suppress C contains Androst-5-ene-3b, 7b, 17b-triol. Androst-5-ene-3b, 7b, 17b-triol is a metabolite of DHEA and DHEA is a cortisol anatogonist.

11-OXO inhibits cortisone from being converted to cortisol.

Suppress C promotes DHEA and DHEA decreases cortisol.

I hope that was clear and most importantly accurate. This is my understanding in contrasting the two.

Originally Posted by VolcomX311

Good question and a technical one to answer, but I'll do my best. 11-OXO aka 11-sterone is a selective inhibitor of 11b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type I reductase. 11b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type I reductase turns cortisone to cortisol and by inhibiting this process, you therefore, reduce cortisol.

Suppress C contains Androst-5-ene-3b, 7b, 17b-triol. Androst-5-ene-3b, 7b, 17b-triol is a metabolite of DHEA and DHEA is a cortisol anatogonist.

11-OXO inhibits cortisone to be converted to cortisol.

Suppress C promotes DHEA and DHEA decreases cortisol.

I hope that was clear and most importabtly accurate. This is my understanding in contrasting the two.

God damn, give this man the nobel

thank you sir

Originally Posted by awhites1

God damn, give this man the nobel

thank you sir

Glad to help

Originally Posted by VolcomX311

11-oxo.

i understand your point of view, but the point is:
i've got a gh deficiency by gh use alone.
so,i need slin as PCT ,i assume.
gh alone is cathabolic
slin is anabolic
gh alone(or peps too) is hyperglicemic
slin hypoglicemic
gh gets fatloss
slin promote fat
gh gets to lower t3
slin gets to lower cortisol and so to raise t3 (cortisol is high when does the job in the place of t3)
many BB use slin as PCT after gh use

so i assume ,to have got that issues 'cause i needed slin as PCT

what do u think about?

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