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    Dosages for a 1-AD/4-Andro cycle

    OK, the plan is to place the order first thing tomorrow morning for one cycle's worth of Ergopharm 1-AD and Anodriol Select 300.

    I thought stacking the 1-AD with some 4-Andro would be a good way to pack some size on.. I'm not at all concerned with water retention or even bf increases.

    So at 6'2, 180, and 21 years old what kind of dosages do you think I should try out for my first 4 week cycle?

    And everyone says you should up your calories on this stuff.. I'm at about 2700 now.. how high should I go?

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    I would start at 300 mg/day of 1-ad to see how that works. Should do fine. Ergopharm suggests 900 mg/day of 4 androdiol. As far as calories most suggest 21-25 calories per lb bodyweight. At 180 this would be between 3780-4500/day. 2700 is not nearly enough for a male to gain muscle. Maybe not even to maintain!






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    Wow, that's a lot of food!
    For the 1-AD cycle, I guess I'll try to get it up closer to those numbers..

    And so you would take 300mg of 1-AD AND 900mg of 4-Andro at the same time??

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    You need to split the dosage into equal dosage three times a day as it's half life is around 6/8 hours. That way you have it in your blood stream 24 hours.






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    Oh, I understood that..
    but I mean if a standard daily dosage of 1-AD is 300mg, you would still take the full 300mg if you're taking it with some 4-Andro on the side?

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    yes............






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    Is this your first PH cycle?






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    Thank you. Just seemed like a lot of Andro.. but that's cool.

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    Very first!

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    Just remeber to eat lots of good clean protein(270-350g a day) get plenty of rest and train hard. You will see good results! Are you taking glutamine?






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    10g of Glutamine and 5g of Creatine..

    270's quite a bit for a 180 pound dude.. but I can manage that.

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    Very good on glutamine and creatine!
    Protein should be a min. of 1.5 to 2 g per lb of bodyweight a day.
    You could just try the 1-ad if you want and save the 4 andro till next cycle if you want. You would probably get good results from either.






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    Yeah, maybe I'll try the stack after Christmas instead and just straight 1-AD for now.

    Thanks dg!

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    It was a little expensive for now anyway.. this way I'll have Christmas money for more Andro

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    Hey, keep us up to date on your progress. I would love to know how you do!






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    Originally posted by Corri
    It was a little expensive for now anyway.. this way I'll have Christmas money for more Andro
    It does get expensive. How many bottles of 1-ad are you doing?






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    I'll only need 2 for a 4 week cycle at 200 or 300 mg per day.

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    At three a day, one bottle will last 20 days(almost 4 weeks, should do fine.) then take four weeks off and start the next one!






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    That's true.. but when have to drop $20 for shipping you don't wanna make little $40 orders..

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