Thread: G P L C /glycocarn

Originally Posted by djm6464

iv been trying out gplc lately with my map/bcaa prewo cocktail, as i try to ween off stims like 1,3 dimeth....as it was hard to train without jack3d or 1mr

a week in of the gplc, 4.5g prewo, it was okay, nothing worth 2$ a workout tho, HOWEVER, did 6g yesterday before chest, best pump iv gotten since i was 'on'

so for everyone trying this stuff, who are not getting the anticipated results, glycocarn effects are very dose dependant.......6g gave me incredible pump and fullness, as opposed to the minor pump i got with 4.5g

i know it has a myriad of other benefits, but for the bodybilder, im assuming most are looking for how its affects performance in the gym

i wish someone like primordial or jarrows would come out with a larger bulk tub, say 1kilo, as opposed to the way the stuff sells now

I agree, PP needs to do a buy 3 get 1 free deal or something like that so it is advantageous to buy more. It costs them a ton to stock it and there is no margin in it so don't expect them to have a kilo tub of it anytime soon. Interesting on the 6 grams, curious how that pump compares to the MUCH cheaper creatine nitrate.

I have been throwing around a couple of theories behind GPLC's efficacy and when to implement its usage. The factors that I've decided that influence it the most are:
1. Overall glycogen/hydration levels (duh)
2. Size of the muscle
3. Type of training
4. Timing/substrate consumed with GPLC

Dont forget about how big you are. If your over 200lbs you might need more than the studied 4.5 grams. Djm, hopefully we start selling so much of this and that, that we can start selling larger sizes of said bulk powders. Or maybe they can start customizing orders and sizes for certain customers looking for 10lbs of MAP. With our product credit at our store, you would be mounting a nice little discount every so often as well.

Originally Posted by Good Grip

Dont forget about how big you are. If your over 200lbs you might need more than the studied 4.5 grams. Djm, hopefully we start selling so much of this and that, that we can start selling larger sizes of said bulk powders. Or maybe they can start customizing orders and sizes for certain customers looking for 10lbs of MAP. With our product credit at our store, you would be mounting a nice little discount every so often as well.

id be down with that, the couple times i ordered stuff, the customer service was good, what you mentioned would put it over the top....get it down bro

Originally Posted by djm6464

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id be down with that, the couple times i ordered stuff, the customer service was good, what you mentioned would put it over the top....get it down bro

How long would 10 pounds of MAP last you? Me personally at the rate I am going I would say 6 weeks lol.

AndroSeries huh? Man you guys must just want the FDA to shut you down.

Originally Posted by 1Fast400

AndroSeries huh? Man you guys must just want the FDA to shut you down.

Why do you say that?

Originally Posted by djm6464

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id be down with that, the couple times i ordered stuff, the customer service was good, what you mentioned would put it over the top....get it down bro

Ill definatly mention it to the Eric.

Originally Posted by Good Grip

Why do you say that?

It's that whole legal thing that tends to get in the way. Dshea/gmp/etc.

Originally Posted by ryansm

How long would 10 pounds of MAP last you? Me personally at the rate I am going I would say 6 weeks lol.

i polish off 8 tubs a month.....i used to use it here n there, then i subbed it in for my morn shake, then subbed out torrent and use map postwo too, and im not small so a few scoops each time

i hate shakes for the most part, so does my stomach, so i always but iso, say the price doesnt bother me too much.....but that being said, an alternative way of selling them, in a bulk way,would be great

Originally Posted by 1Fast400

It's that whole legal thing that tends to get in the way. Dshea/gmp/etc.

We are compliant in all of those areas

Originally Posted by djm6464

i polish off 8 tubs a month.....i used to use it here n there, then i subbed it in for my morn shake, then subbed out torrent and use map postwo too, and im not small so a few scoops each time

i hate shakes for the most part, so does my stomach, so i always but iso, say the price doesnt bother me too much.....but that being said, an alternative way of selling them, in a bulk way,would be great

I'm at six, and have done the same with switching out. I have noticed a marked increase in recovery and have leaned out while staying the same weight. Use it in a similar fashion I did with BCAA's, sipped on throughout the day.

Originally Posted by 1Fast400

It's that whole legal thing that tends to get in the way. Dshea/gmp/etc.

since its all isomers of DHEA is is gmp/dshea compliant as it is written now.

From what I've read on the site it is completely DSHEA compliant, however if this stuff works too well you know the fda will shut down the androseries, well atleast try. Andromass converts to 1-test and test? Looks gtg to me, any opportunities for a certain member to log it on here? I nominate myself naturally.

Originally Posted by oufinny

I agree, PP needs to do a buy 3 get 1 free deal or something like that so it is advantageous to buy more. It costs them a ton to stock it and there is no margin in it so don't expect them to have a kilo tub of it anytime soon. Interesting on the 6 grams, curious how that pump compares to the MUCH cheaper creatine nitrate.

I was thinking of stacking gycocarn, beta alanine, and creapure or creatine nitrate. However I'm gonna need some crystal light as that would taste like some serious booty. And I agree on the dose dependent thing, I actually read a study that mentioned doses over 1.5g of gplc causing decreased power output, but the study was on leg extensions of course, and also too many other variables so who knows, I get a great pump from the 4.5g, I may try 3g next time, and then 6g and see the difference.

Originally Posted by ryansm

I'm at six, and have done the same with switching out. I have noticed a marked increase in recovery and have leaned out while staying the same weight. Use it in a similar fashion I did with BCAA's, sipped on throughout the day.

i dont like the taste that much to sip all day, and my breath would be an issue walking around with a gallon jug of map, itll be brutal

Originally Posted by djm6464

i dont like the taste that much to sip all day, and my breath would be an issue walking around with a gallon jug of map, itll be brutal

You get the same nasty breath from BCAAs sipped all day too, it sucks.

Originally Posted by 1Fast400

It's that whole legal thing that tends to get in the way. Dshea/gmp/etc.

Originally Posted by ryansm

We are compliant in all of those areas

Most notably the etc. compliance...that one was a bit trickier than DSHEA and cGMP compliance.

Originally Posted by djm6464

i dont like the taste that much to sip all day, and my breath would be an issue walking around with a gallon jug of map, itll be brutal

Originally Posted by oufinny

You get the same nasty breath from BCAAs sipped all day too, it sucks.

BCAA breath is much more harsh than MAP breath. Gum would be a great stack for either

Originally Posted by HATEFULone

I actually read a study that mentioned doses over 1.5g of gplc causing decreased power output

Back on topic. I've read that as well, what do you think about a blend of multiple forms of carnitine? Would a combined 4.5g of 3 or 4 forms of carnitine still incur the decreased power output?

Yup. gum all day, not so bad.

silentbob, I'm not sure of the mix of different forms of carnitine, could work, or could turn out like the mixtures of creatine that have too little of each and most of the types don't work. Difficult to say, when I order supps next I will get some bulk glycocarn, I will dose it at 1.5g solo, then add in 1.5g beta alanine, then add in 5g creapure. See if any synergy would take place, but I'd be interested in a multi-carnitine blend for sure.

Originally Posted by HATEFULone

silentbob, I'm not sure of the mix of different forms of carnitine, could work, or could turn out like the mixtures of creatine that have too little of each and most of the types don't work. Difficult to say, when I order supps next I will get some bulk glycocarn, I will dose it at 1.5g solo, then add in 1.5g beta alanine, then add in 5g creapure. See if any synergy would take place, but I'd be interested in a multi-carnitine blend for sure.

My blend of choice is 1.5g of ArginoCarn and 1.5g GPLC. One thing that I've noticed when I do not take my GPLC is that I either cannot or really struggle to finish my conditioning circuits. I've had some sessions where my time was over 2:00 higher when I do not take GPLC.

For MMA, it is a must-have supplement.

Originally Posted by Rodja

My blend of choice is 1.5g of ArginoCarn and 1.5g GPLC. One thing that I've noticed when I do not take my GPLC is that I either cannot or really struggle to finish my conditioning circuits. I've had some sessions where my time was over 2:00 higher when I do not take GPLC.

For MMA, it is a must-have supplement.

Agreed it definitely increases endrurance for me as well. Lactic acid buffering is a grand thing. Hmm arginocarn and glycocarn, 1.5g would make the gplc last 3x as long.

Originally Posted by OrbitNutrition

since its all isomers of DHEA is is gmp/dshea compliant as it is written now.

Yep, an big pharma isn't going to let DHEA get attacked anytime soon, which is good because I really want to see some logs before I order. If results are as claimed, I will be spending too much money at PP.

Back to the OP, with GPLC, I really found I needed to take it a minimum of 1 hour before hitting the gym for it really to work. If I took it too soon, it seemed to be a waste. Timing was everything for me.

Originally Posted by bikeswimlive

Yep, an big pharma isn't going to let DHEA get attacked anytime soon, which is good because I really want to see some logs before I order. If results are as claimed, I will be spending too much money at PP.

Back to the OP, with GPLC, I really found I needed to take it a minimum of 1 hour before hitting the gym for it really to work. If I took it too soon, it seemed to be a waste. Timing was everything for me.

I noticed that with premax, if I didn't wait atleast 45 minutes before hitting the weights I was super strong at the end of the workout and for a few hours after that but does no good if I'm at work feeling all jacked and energized with no weights to lift.

If you want to try GPLC, just buy 180g for 40 bucks.

Originally Posted by 1Fast400

If you want to try GPLC, just buy 180g for 40 bucks.

beautiful, i saw that this morning, im ordering today bud, nice price, im finihing off my pp gplc, but cant pass that up, get some argino

Originally Posted by OrbitNutrition

since its all isomers of DHEA is is gmp/dshea compliant as it is written now.

From wikipedia: A bill has been introduced, in March 2009, in the U.S. Senate (S. 641) that attempts to classify DHEA as a controlled substance under the category of anabolic steroids. The sponsor is Charles Grassley (R-IA). The cosponsors are Richard Durbin (D-IL), and John McCain (R-AZ).[45] This bill was referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee. In December 2007, Charles Grassley introduced the "S. 2470: Dehydroepiandrosterone Abuse Reduction Act of 2007," in an attempt to amend the Controlled Substances Act to make "unlawful for any person to knowingly selling, causing another to sell, or conspiring to sell a product containing dehydroepiandrosterone to an individual under the age of 18 years, including any such sale using the Internet," without a prescription. Only civil (non-criminal) penalties are provided. The bill was read twice and referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee where it died.[46]

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Is fast400's gplc the same?