Gopro - Have you changed your mind yet?

Dorian · 11-08-2002, 08:16 AM

I was doing a search on 1-test products and I see in one thread you said you dont know enough about avantlabs yet to know if you could trust them.

Is this still your opinion or has your view changed?

**gopro** · 11-08-2002, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by Dorian
I was doing a search on 1-test products and I see in one thread you said you dont know enough about avantlabs yet to know if you could trust them.

Is this still your opinion or has your view changed?

Dorian from England huh (Yates?...just kidding). I'm curious as to why you ask me this. Are you a representative/owner/employee of Avant Labs or are you just interested in my opinion?

Robboe · 11-08-2002, 06:10 PM

Avantlabs have no ties overseas, so no he's not.

I think he just values your opinion greatly.

**gopro** · 11-09-2002, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Avantlabs have no ties overseas, so no he's not.

I think he just values your opinion greatly.

Well, ok, however, I want to hear what he has to say. I have never seen him here before and am aware that he posts frequently at other boards. I am curious as to what made him come to IM to seek my opinion out.

This is not meant to be abnoxious or anything, so I hope it won't be perceived as such.

Dorian · 11-09-2002, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by gopro

Well, ok, however, I want to hear what he has to say. I have never seen him here before and am aware that he posts frequently at other boards. I am curious as to what made him come to IM to seek my opinion out.

This is not meant to be abnoxious or anything, so I hope it won't be perceived as such.

Hey Gopro,

I have been browsing these boards for a while but never really needed to post much. Yes I do frequent other boards but not as Dorian.

The reason I ask the question is that I am evaluating my options for various pro hormones and it doesnt take much reading here to discover you are the one everyone goes to.

Anyway I have used AST 4-ad and got nothing from it, apart form acne so I have been looking at my options as I wish to try another cycle. Like most peple I have come to the choice of 1-AD by Ergopharm or ONE from Avantlabs. From my search here it seems most peole go for ONE. Now I was reday to go order some and then I came across your post that they havnt been around for longer and you didnt know if you could trust them. So hey I am now thinking I am going to be putting this stuff in my body and here is a highly respected individual with doubts. So naturally I would like to be as sure as I can. Hence why I asked if you still held the same opinion.

As for me maybe being Yates maybe not.....I would hate to be that small.!!!!!!!!!!

Robboe · 11-09-2002, 01:38 PM

Rob was right, Rob was right, Rob was right...

Dorian, from what i hear, AST are known to not meet amounts in their products as stated on their labels -especially as far as PH's go.

AST is a reputable firm for other products, but for the PH/PS market, stick with the companies that have been sworn by. Ergopharm is one of them, so you're on the right track now.

Dorian · 11-09-2002, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Rob was right, Rob was right, Rob was right...

Dorian, from what i hear, AST are known to not meet amounts in their products as stated on their labels -especially as far as PH's go.

AST is a reputable firm for other products, but for the PH/PS market, stick with the companies that have been sworn by. Ergopharm is one of them, so you're on the right track now.

I hear ya.

Do you know if there is any info about on lower sperm counts with some of the stronger stacks used?

**gopro** · 11-10-2002, 03:25 PM

Ok Dorian...fair enough. My opinion on Avant Labs products has changed somewhat. I have never used them myself and have never tested them on any of my clients, however, I have been speaking to many individuals with "inside info" and to others that HAVE used Avant (I should mention that the only people I know about that have used them are on the net...never met anyone in person that has used them).

I have ony "heard" good things about their products and their effectiveness, so although they are a smaller player in the world of supps, they have a growing positive reputation.

I can speak more "directly" about SAN, VPX, BIOTEST, Molecular Nutrition, and Ergopharm regarding prohormones, however.

In general I can tell you that people seem to be getting the best results with 1-Test (although 1-AD isn't far behind). Even better gains can be had with 4-AD as a stack, but that also increases side effect possibilities.

**gopro** · 11-10-2002, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Rob was right, Rob was right, Rob was right

Finally...after just 2743 posts

Dorian · 11-11-2002, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by gopro
Ok Dorian...fair enough. My opinion on Avant Labs products has changed somewhat. I have never used them myself and have never tested them on any of my clients, however, I have been speaking to many individuals with "inside info" and to others that HAVE used Avant (I should mention that the only people I know about that have used them are on the net...never met anyone in person that has used them).

I have ony "heard" good things about their products and their effectiveness, so although they are a smaller player in the world of supps, they have a growing positive reputation.

I can speak more "directly" about SAN, VPX, BIOTEST, Molecular Nutrition, and Ergopharm regarding prohormones, however.

In general I can tell you that people seem to be getting the best results with 1-Test (although 1-AD isn't far behind). Even better gains can be had with 4-AD as a stack, but that also increases side effect possibilities.

Much appreciated feedback..cheers geezer

**dg806** · 11-11-2002, 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by Dorian

..cheers geezer

Robboe · 11-11-2002, 07:21 AM

Translation:

"Thank you friend".

**dg806** · 11-11-2002, 07:23 AM

Must be one of those English slangs!

Robboe · 11-11-2002, 07:29 AM

It's a southern expression.

In the north we say "kidda", or "wor kid".

or "man", although that matters less since, particularly people from my city, say "man" at the end of pretty much every sentence.

Tank316 · 11-11-2002, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by Dorian

Much appreciated feedback..cheers geezer

well GP is getting older ya know.............ole geezer.

**gopro** · 11-11-2002, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by Tank316
well GP is getting older ya know.............ole geezer.

**gopro** · 11-11-2002, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Dorian

Much appreciated feedback..cheers geezer

Right back at ya!

Tank316 · 11-11-2002, 11:09 PM

oh shit, my bad. i thought there was ole in front geezer, shit man i'm sorry.

**gopro** · 11-12-2002, 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by Tank316
oh shit, my bad. i thought there was ole in front geezer, shit man i'm sorry.

I repeat...

Tank316 · 11-12-2002, 08:34 AM

am i in hot water now.

**gopro** · 11-12-2002, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Tank316
am i in hot water now.

Very hot...very

Tank316 · 11-13-2002, 08:01 AM

well look at it this way. you're not as old as Dero or ALBOB.

**gopro** · 11-13-2002, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by Tank316
well look at it this way. you're not as old as Dero or ALBOB.

Hmmmmm...I feel better now

(besides Tank...you know that guys like you and me just get better with age anyway)

Tank316 · 11-13-2002, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by gopro

Hmmmmm...I feel better now

(besides Tank...you know that guys like you and me just get better with age anyway)

oh hell ya.

Trap-isaurus · 11-13-2002, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
It's a southern expression.

In the north we say "kidda", or "wor kid".

or "man", although that matters less since, particularly people from my city, say "man" at the end of pretty much every sentence.

and to one better the geezer statement you could say gopro is a diamond geezer.....am I correct rob?

Dorian · 11-14-2002, 03:33 AM

11-08-2002, 08:16 AM	#1
Dorian Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: England Posts: 29	Gopro - Have you changed your mind yet? I was doing a search on 1-test products and I see in one thread you said you dont know enough about avantlabs yet to know if you could trust them. Is this still your opinion or has your view changed?

11-08-2002, 06:10 PM	#3
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Avantlabs have no ties overseas, so no he's not. I think he just values your opinion greatly.
	Being held down by The Man

11-09-2002, 01:38 PM	#6
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Rob was right, Rob was right, Rob was right... Dorian, from what i hear, AST are known to not meet amounts in their products as stated on their labels -especially as far as PH's go. AST is a reputable firm for other products, but for the PH/PS market, stick with the companies that have been sworn by. Ergopharm is one of them, so you're on the right track now.
	Being held down by The Man

11-10-2002, 03:25 PM	#8
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,499	Ok Dorian...fair enough. My opinion on Avant Labs products has changed somewhat. I have never used them myself and have never tested them on any of my clients, however, I have been speaking to many individuals with "inside info" and to others that HAVE used Avant (I should mention that the only people I know about that have used them are on the net...never met anyone in person that has used them). I have ony "heard" good things about their products and their effectiveness, so although they are a smaller player in the world of supps, they have a growing positive reputation. I can speak more "directly" about SAN, VPX, BIOTEST, Molecular Nutrition, and Ergopharm regarding prohormones, however. In general I can tell you that people seem to be getting the best results with 1-Test (although 1-AD isn't far behind). Even better gains can be had with 4-AD as a stack, but that also increases side effect possibilities.
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11-11-2002, 07:21 AM	#12
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Translation: "Thank you friend".
	Being held down by The Man

11-11-2002, 07:23 AM	#13
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,155	Must be one of those English slangs!
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11-11-2002, 07:29 AM	#14
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	It's a southern expression. In the north we say "kidda", or "wor kid". or "man", although that matters less since, particularly people from my city, say "man" at the end of pretty much every sentence.
	Being held down by The Man

11-11-2002, 11:09 PM	#18
Tank316 P/RR/Sh Warrior Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Barron,Wi Posts: 4,345 Photos: 8	oh shit, my bad. i thought there was ole in front geezer, shit man i'm sorry.
	P/RR/Sh Warrior. Epic's new man beast.

11-12-2002, 08:34 AM	#20
Tank316 P/RR/Sh Warrior Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Barron,Wi Posts: 4,345 Photos: 8	am i in hot water now.
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11-13-2002, 08:01 AM	#22
Tank316 P/RR/Sh Warrior Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Barron,Wi Posts: 4,345 Photos: 8	well look at it this way. you're not as old as Dero or ALBOB.
	P/RR/Sh Warrior. Epic's new man beast.

11-14-2002, 03:33 AM	#26
Dorian Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: England Posts: 29