Thread: Supplements during a cut?

I just ordered the HEAT stack for my cut goin to try it out have heard alot off good things bout it
You should look at that

Originally Posted by patricio

I'm currently trying to cut. All I'm taking is whey protein, BCAA and a multivitamin pill.
Is there anything else I need?

Everything looks fine here and you dont need anything else imo. If you havent ruled out prohormones, give this a look-
ANDRO lean
This may be the ultimate cutting tool next to a well designed diet and excercise program.

Originally Posted by patricio

I'm currently trying to cut. All I'm taking is whey protein, BCAA and a multivitamin pill.
Is there anything else I need?

Need? No, cutting is all diet. However, if you want quicker results and are over the age of 21, you can look into an ECA stack.

Ol, thanks for the feedback

Just make sure to get plenty of protein and don't cut calories too much or you'll lose muscle too of course.

I had this problem when I first started trying to cut. I wasn't eating enough lol

Clen or ECA. Id start off with the ECA stack.

But I would also atleast add some fish oil to the mix. That's just a good general rule of thumb.

I'm trying to cut as naturally as possible. I'm gonna add some fish oil, and keep my protein up. So far I've lost 8 pounds with minimal muscle loss, but the last 8 pounds are getting a little tougher

Originally Posted by GMO

Need? No, cutting is all diet..

100% agree but we can say that cardio has its big role in the picture..

Do low impact cardio (45min-1h) at empty stomac in the morning adding:
- 200mg alc
- 500mg green tea
- 100mg caffeine
- 500mg guarana

You'll cut your fat like snow under the sun.. If diet is in check off course!

Man, if that's you on the picture I need to follow your advice!!

Originally Posted by SloppyJo

Clen or ECA. Id start off with the ECA stack.

But I would also atleast add some fish oil to the mix. That's just a good general rule of thumb.

This is an excellent way to cut and if you can't handle 200 mg of caffeine, break the pills in half and still take the E with it. ECA works well and it is natural in my eyes, clen on the other hand is definitely not (but damn effective).

Originally Posted by oufinny

This is an excellent way to cut and if you can't handle 200 mg of caffeine, break the pills in half and still take the E with it. ECA works well and it is natural in my eyes, clen on the other hand is definitely not (but damn effective).

How do you feel about taking clen without a test base? Im starting to really lean out and was considering cycling some clen to get sub 10%.

The one thing I would add is that I'm 21, so my test levels are pretty high naturally, I seem to be able to hang onto LBM pretty well even when running a strong deficit.

Originally Posted by patricio

I'm currently trying to cut. All I'm taking is whey protein, BCAA and a multivitamin pill.
Is there anything else I need?

IMO, a fat burner would help you out a lot. Check out the FORGED BURNER and NEED2SLIN.

Forged Burner

Need 2 Slin

Both of them get a lot of reviews and feedback all over the boards.

I always use the Need2Slin but never tried FORGED BURNER.

From now until the end of the month you can get 25% off anything in the NTBM store simply by entering conrad25 at the checkout. This is a great chance to stock up on cycle supports, protein, and Gear is back in stock. As always shipping is free and you won't be disappointed with their products.

Originally Posted by patricio

I'm currently trying to cut. All I'm taking is whey protein, BCAA and a multivitamin pill.
Is there anything else I need?

CLA would be a good addition as well as add acetyl l-cartinine....

if you want a short term solution, guess some of th thermogenic products could work but it is said that the thyroid controls your weight so a sluggish thyroid is really where the solution lies otherwise you will find yourself slowly getting fat again once your diet is over....

take braggs apple cider vinegar 1tbl spoon 3x a day. will help you lose body fat.

Originally Posted by Hench

How do you feel about taking clen without a test base? Im starting to really lean out and was considering cycling some clen to get sub 10%.

The one thing I would add is that I'm 21, so my test levels are pretty high naturally, I seem to be able to hang onto LBM pretty well even when running a strong deficit.

Bump.

Originally Posted by Hench

How do you feel about taking clen without a test base? Im starting to really lean out and was considering cycling some clen to get sub 10%.

The one thing I would add is that I'm 21, so my test levels are pretty high naturally, I seem to be able to hang onto LBM pretty well even when running a strong deficit.

Originally Posted by Hench

Bump.

I would do some more research before starting. Clen is fine without AAS but generally T3 is taken with a decent amount of test as it can eat as much muscle as it can aid in fat loss if done incorrectly. There are some vetran T3 users on here that could add to this.

Originally Posted by OutWhey

I would do some more research before starting. Clen is fine without AAS but generally T3 is taken with a decent amount of test as it can eat as much muscle as it can aid in fat loss if done incorrectly. There are some vetran T3 users on here that could add to this.

From what I've read it's a bad idea to run T3 without test, whereas I've heard mixed reviews when it comes to running clen solo.

I'll see where I'm at in 4-5 weeks, if I hit a sticking point then I'll probably cycle some clen.

topical fat burner with clen mixed in it

You could try some sort of fat burner, OEP, Recreate, Grean Tea, CLA, etc. Id give your cut a go first, and then see if you want to add in this stuff.

Originally Posted by GMO

Need? No, cutting is all diet. However, if you want quicker results and are over the age of 21, you can look into an ECA stack.

Diet diet diet, If you are not eating right you are wasting money on supps. eating right and supps will have a minimal effect. How much money you want to spend? Spend you money on good food

Originally Posted by OutWhey

IMO, a fat burner would help you out a lot. Check out the FORGED BURNER and NEED2SLIN.

Forged Burner

Need 2 Slin

Both of them get a lot of reviews and feedback all over the boards.

I always use the Need2Slin but never tried FORGED BURNER.

From now until the end of the month you can get 25% off anything in the NTBM store simply by entering conrad25 at the checkout. This is a great chance to stock up on cycle supports, protein, and Gear is back in stock. As always shipping is free and you won't be disappointed with their products.

If you are wanting a burner, don't waste money on anything other than ECA. It is cheap and more imporantly, PROVEN.

The only other thing you might want to think about (besides your bcaas), is some high quality GTE and CLA.

Originally Posted by OutWhey

IMO, a fat burner would help you out a lot. Check out the FORGED BURNER and NEED2SLIN.

Forged Burner

Need 2 Slin

Both of them get a lot of reviews and feedback all over the boards.

I always use the Need2Slin but never tried FORGED BURNER.

From now until the end of the month you can get 25% off anything in the NTBM store simply by entering conrad25 at the checkout. This is a great chance to stock up on cycle supports, protein, and Gear is back in stock. As always shipping is free and you won't be disappointed with their products.

i used need2slin, or still have it, NADA, thank god it was free

diet diet diet diet

if you cant get to 12%bf on hard work n food, you are doing somethign wrong

then look at eca or nyc....clen is trickier and carries sides....but if you add a tiny amount to a topical like evis, as mentioned, works very well

Nothing you really "need" per say but as mentioned the HEAT stack by Genomyx is awesome and DCP is a great addition to ANY fat burning stack.

Are you looking for energy/focus in a stim or something thyroidal etc? Lots of good options out right now!

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Orbit Nutrition Rep

cant forget the multi & fish oil!

Start counting calories.

Calculate your BMR, then Calculate your daily caloric need using the harris benedict formula ( not entirely accurate, but it works fine)

cut 500cals from this....mostly from carbs.

Throw in cardio 3-4 times a week depending on how you are lifting ( cardio isn't necessary for fatloss but it helps)

Reassess in 3 weeks. 1-2 pounds per week is optimal IMO.

When you have figured out how much you need to be eating to lose about a pound a week, then throw in the EC stack. When you hit about 10% body fat, add Yohimbine to the mix if you can tolerate it...........or clen.

when misery starts setting in, take a break for a couple of weeks. Happy cutting.


You will make a lot more progress if you know your cals.........diet first. Always.

Originally Posted by jagbender

Diet diet diet, If you are not eating right you are wasting money on supps. eating right and supps will have a minimal effect. How much money you want to spend? Spend you money on good food

Very true. Diet is the most important variable in the equation

I do love a good appetite supression stimulant like Spirodex though. It really kills my desire to eat which makes dieting a breeze.

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Orbit Nutrition Rep

Originally Posted by damage

Start counting calories.

Calculate your BMR, then Calculate your daily caloric need using the harris benedict formula ( not entirely accurate, but it works fine)

cut 500cals from this....mostly from carbs.

Throw in cardio 3-4 times a week depending on how you are lifting ( cardio isn't necessary for fatloss but it helps)

Reassess in 3 weeks. 1-2 pounds per week is optimal IMO.

When you have figured out how much you need to be eating to lose about a pound a week, then throw in the EC stack. When you hit about 10% body fat, add Yohimbine to the mix if you can tolerate it...........or clen.

when misery starts setting in, take a break for a couple of weeks. Happy cutting.


You will make a lot more progress if you know your cals.........diet first. Always.

Good adivce and you are correct. I like to keep Need2Slin in my regimen when my carbs are high in my diet. I am actually able to eat more while dieting without any reverse effects on fat loss.

But know your cals!