Thread: AndroHard

It all depends on how well you respond to it. Many really like it, me included, just make sure you have some prostate support supps that contain divanill (nettle root) or you will face some unpleasant feelings when you pee. Besides that, it is a great recomposition supplement.

Originally Posted by oufinny

It all depends on how well you respond to it. Many really like it, me included, just make sure you have some prostate support supps that contain divanill (nettle root) or you will face some unpleasant feelings when you pee. Besides that, it is a great recomposition supplement.

Yeah if you are looking for something pre-beach I'd suggest this with 11-oxo or something possibly. I was thinking about doing the same and then ordered andromass instead of hard haha.... but yeah, its good stuff from everythign I've heard!

|Z|


Orbit Nutrition Rep

What exactly are you trying to find out about the AH?

Originally Posted by JAja04

Is this shit worth anything?

I was considering doing a 6week cycle of this (instructions say not longer than 6 weeks) as a substitute for 250mgs of Test Weekly.

Can someone advise me Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

Jay

Id look into Andromass as a substitute instead of Androhard.

Androhard is sold out and wont be available untill close to the end of May. Other sites should still have a supply.

Originally Posted by Good Grip

Androhard is sold out and wont be available untill close to the end of May. Other sites should still have a supply.

Definitely sooner than later

Interesting study on DHT and its effects on HPTA and gyno:

Int J Androl. 2009 Feb;32(1):57-65. Epub 2007 Oct 11.

Impact level of dihydrotestosterone on the hypothalamic-pituitary-leydig cell axis in men.
Cailleux-Bounacer A, Rohmer V, Lahlou N, Lefebvre H, Roger M, Kuhn JM.

Department of Endocrinology and Clinical Investigation Center INSERM 0204, University of Rouen, Bois Guillaume, France.

Abstract
Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) the physiologically most potent androgen cannot be aromatised into oestrogen. DHT is used as a treatment for idiopathic gynaecomastia. In order to investigate the different sites of action of DHT on the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis, two groups of adult men were studied. Group I included 10 gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH)-deficient men who were evaluated before and during a pulsatile infusion of GnRH alone for 2 weeks and then in association with DHT given transdermally at doses used in the treatment of gynaecomastia for further two weeks. Luteinizing hormone (LH) pulsatility was assessed at the end of each step of the study. Plasma LH levels were measured every 15 min. Plasma testosterone (T), DHT, oestradiol (E2), free alpha-subunit (FAS) of glycoproteic hormones and LH bioactivity were measured on pooled plasma samples. Group II included 12 healthy men in whom plasma T, DHT and E2 were measured before and then 24, 48 and 72 h after the injection of 5000 IU hCG alone or in combination with either DHT or the pure anti-androgen nilutamide. Two weeks separated each of the 3 hCG testing. In group I, except for bioactive/immunoreactive (B/I) LH ratio which was unchanged, GnRH treatment induced significant rises (p < 0.01) in all plasma hormone levels, LH pulse amplitude and frequency. During treatment with GnRH+DHT, plasma DHT levels increased up to 16.8 +/- 2.5 nm, while plasma hormone levels, B/I LH ratio, LH pulse amplitude and frequency were similar to those obtained with GnRH alone. In group II, the peak of hCG-induced T rise was not modified by either DHT or nilutamide. In contrast, DHT reduced by 50% (p < 0.01) the E2 peak in response to hCG. These data show that DHT exerts no direct action on the pituitary to retroregulate LH secretion and to modify either B/I LH ratio or FAS secretion. Its reducing effect on LH secretion is likely mediated at the hypothalamic level. DHT does not appear to have a physiological influence on Leydig cells steroidogenesis. Administered at therapeutic doses, DHT directly reduces testicular aromatase activity that combined with its antigonadotropic effect leads to the gain in the symptomatic treatment of gynaecomastia.

Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy

Definitely sooner than later

niiice!


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Orbit Nutrition Rep

Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy

Interesting study on DHT and its effects on HPTA and gyno:

Nice find BBG.

Originally Posted by Good Grip

Nice find BBG.

Yah it really interests me. I wonder how a very low estrogen environment with supraphysiological levels of DHT would do to gyno. Obviously lowering estrogen too low is going to cause problems on its own, but if someone is willing to deal with those sides to kill gyno...

Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy

Yah it really interests me. I wonder how a very low estrogen environment with supraphysiological levels of DHT would do to gyno. Obviously lowering estrogen too low is going to cause problems on its own, but if someone is willing to deal with those sides to kill gyno...

Eric's article written over at our site might shed some more light on the subject.

Originally Posted by Good Grip

Eric's article written over at our site might shed some more light on the subject.

You guys have some great information on there, I'd highly suggest some of the forum readers in here check it out!

|Z|

Originally Posted by |Z|

You guys have some great information on there, I'd highly suggest some of the forum readers in here check it out!

|Z|

Thanks Z. Here's a link to the articles over the Primordial Performance.

Just finished Ah And it was my first cycle of anything in about 20 yrs. First i definately noticed near the end of it a good increase in strength and in weights. Then the good parts , wood like i havent seen since my twentys, My girl was loving at first, then was begging for a break .LOL . Been off it now for about a week and missing it . Now im running AL and hoping it will help with the waist line. Also taking sustain alpha and testofen .not a big fan of either ones taste and not sure as to its effectiveness yet . Would definately like to see more feedback on anyone also using the Andro line .

Originally Posted by 1krazyrider

Just finished Ah And it was my first cycle of anything in about 20 yrs. First i definately noticed near the end of it a good increase in strength and in weights. Then the good parts , wood like i havent seen since my twentys, My girl was loving at first, then was begging for a break .LOL . Been off it now for about a week and missing it . Now im running AL and hoping it will help with the waist line. Also taking sustain alpha and testofen .not a big fan of either ones taste and not sure as to its effectiveness yet . Would definately like to see more feedback on anyone also using the Andro line .

Awesome to hear 1krazyrider, we've been waiting to hear about feedback on Androhard solo. Yeah, im not a big fan of the taste of Sustain Alpha either. Im dosing it under the tongue for about 30 seconds and then swallowing it, so that helps some. Ill keep you guys informed when I do my run.

Originally Posted by 1krazyrider

Just finished Ah And it was my first cycle of anything in about 20 yrs. First i definately noticed near the end of it a good increase in strength and in weights. Then the good parts , wood like i havent seen since my twentys, My girl was loving at first, then was begging for a break .LOL . Been off it now for about a week and missing it . Now im running AL and hoping it will help with the waist line. Also taking sustain alpha and testofen .not a big fan of either ones taste and not sure as to its effectiveness yet . Would definately like to see more feedback on anyone also using the Andro line .

Great to hear! Glad you liked the AH bud. As far as more feedback check out our home board at Primordial Performance Discussion Forums

Ill check it out thanks.

Originally Posted by 1krazyrider

Just finished Ah And it was my first cycle of anything in about 20 yrs. First i definately noticed near the end of it a good increase in strength and in weights. Then the good parts , wood like i havent seen since my twentys, My girl was loving at first, then was begging for a break .LOL . Been off it now for about a week and missing it . Now im running AL and hoping it will help with the waist line. Also taking sustain alpha and testofen .not a big fan of either ones taste and not sure as to its effectiveness yet . Would definately like to see more feedback on anyone also using the Andro line .

lol that's how I was on the original AH, and that's just how my GF was haha

Originally Posted by JAja04

Is this shit worth anything?

I was considering doing a 6week cycle of this (instructions say not longer than 6 weeks) as a substitute for 250mgs of Test Weekly.

Can someone advise me Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

Jay

Did you ever decide on giving this a run or stacking it?