Thread: Which pre-workout now?

Believe I have endeavoured most of them on the market today. So far the strongest one is Dark Rage from ON. The stuff was so powerful that I could discover my heart beat.

Originally Posted by Hench

This is the first study you came across when you googled 'glutamine + muscle building'. Have you even read it? Or read the articles it references?

Anyway, I have and 11/12 of the refs. are bogus and/or irrelevant for muscle building purposes. The writer also cherry picks the information that agrees with his point.

In conclusion: Glutamine = worthless

Not hating on you OW, just the supp.

B-b-but J-jay Cutler uses it!

If you tell me my Beta Alanine is worthless I might just freak the **** out!

Originally Posted by Chubby

Please stop picking on new member. Why can't you make them feel welcome?

Because we're MEN and as MEN we make fun of weaker MEN! That's what we DO! And if they're not weaker MEN then we ridicule them until others believe they are weaker!

Wait, I meant, "Well said, Chubby!"

NTKS, powerchew pre-workout, ASGT, Lit Up, Anabolic Ignite(it's stim free), GPLC, AAKG injection, IGF DES, ...

Well I tried the pre-workout chews didn't work. I took 6 and nothing. If anyone wants to buy them, PM me I'll sell them for $30.

The jack3d still does a little, but I think i'm going to try NO shotgun now. I'll report back. Maybe I should do NO shotgun and jack3d?

Originally Posted by RickRock13

N2KTS is the best preworkout on the planet...period. jack3d is good too but N2KTS takes the prize

i agree, the taste is amazing, the energy is perfect as well, not to over the top like some products, but not weak by any means

Hey, GymRat4Life , Why don't you try the new launch from Gamma Labs? It is called Gamma PTF ( Pre Training Formula) . I have been using it for 2 weeks now and its is awesome! The crash has stopped and it is helping me train longer and harder.

thought I would add muscletech came out with "neurocore" which is similar to jack3d but stronger and more focused on pumps rather than mind.

orange juice

if this has already been posted, then disregard, but why dont you just stop taking preworkouts all together, dry out, then go at it again....
you obviously have a tolerance and a dependence to caffeine and the ingredients in a preworkout....


that's my 2 cents

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

I've tried white flood and jack3d. Both did little to nothing, if anything made me feel crappy sometimes.

Caffeine

The foundation of energy supplements is caffeine. It is the drving force that give you a little "edge" in your workouts.

Caffeine is in Jack 3D and White FLood.

Bang For The Buck

Caffeine is one of the most effective supplement on the market.

Caffeine is also very cheap.

That means it is one of the best investments to give you that "extra" in your workout.

Dosage

Usually about 200 mg of caffeine pre-work works. Research show that up to 4 gram per pound may can be used to increase performance.

That a lot of caffeine. Better to start with 200 mg of caffeine and see how tha works.

Jack 3D, White Flood and Others

There isn't much profit in caffeine. Thus, many supplement companies add "special ingredients".

The only thing the "special ingredients" do is give them "extra" profit at you expense.

Others have posted similar comments about caffeine.

"...if you're gonna take the stim route, you can just pop a caffeine pill and save urself money." Minimal

"I think they are a waste of money...
Work In Progress

"Nothing beats a solid meal 2 hours prior to training and a little bit of caffeine... GMO

The Synergistic Ephedrine/Caffeine Combo

"Nothing beat my ECA stack."
AKIRA

The combination of ephedrine with caffeine enhances the "extra" benefits durng a workout.

Adding ephedrine to caffeine is like adding 2 + 2 and coming up with 5 or 6.

Kenny Croxdale

Pre workout i drink a very strong cup of espresso with Cinnamon and one tsp of sugar. Works great! I make it in a greca with bustelo...umm um

Maybe if you're energy levels are not where they should be,
then you might also need more rest than you are getting.
Have you tried taking a short nap? Also, are you good with calories?

I get tons of energy with a pinky sized piece of banana.