Thread: OUFINNY get's hard and lean with the Andro Series

Originally Posted by oufinny

Alright I figured for the benefit of all you degenerates, I say that with the utmost respect mind you, I will start a log of my thoughts on AndroHard/AndroLean. I am taking the OLD AndroHard, you know the liquavade one, not the new one as I am not a baller like that . Anyways, this log will cover my thoughts and from time to time I will discuss my workouts and any strength gains I make along the way.

Dosing:
AndroHard - 5 mL x2 per day (bottle dose)
AndroLean - 3 pills x2 per day (max recommended dose)
IM Cylce Support - As needed
Nettle Root - 3 per day of Swanson Vitamins brand stuff
Fish Oil - 10-12 grams per day
Universal Uniliver - 8-10 per day

Diet:
Lean Gains, 3 high cal days, 3-4 lower cal days with moderate carbs

Training:
My buddy Kleen's Warrior Workout that is 3 full body per week and 2-3 cardio sessions. I am consistently doing cardio for the first time in a while.

Initial thoughts:
Aggression is picking up from the AH, sweating and being hot is picking up from the AndroLean, energy is ok as I take a diet pill on cardio days and now I am going to do EC stack as Dexaprine has thyroid stuff in it and Rodja said no to that.

What else... libido is crazy so far!

Looking forward to the log

Nice, good luck with your cycle and I'll be following along.

So today I did my cardio for 30 minutes, finished a few minutes ago. Took 2 doses of ECA today and did not need my pre-workout at all, still amped from that. I am going to up the dose of AH to 750 mgs per day as I am going to get a bottle of the new AndroHard before the one I have runs out, want to see what the higher dose does as I hear it is awesome. Workout tomorrow and will have another high cal day as well, today will be around 2000-2200 as opposed to my normal 3000 on lifting days.

Are you dosing the AH with the AL? You should see some "piggybacking" from the delivery system in the AL.

got a link to more info on the andro series/

Originally Posted by suppRatings

got a link to more info on the andro series/

Primordial Performance Online Supplements Store: All Products

Yes sir, right here. The top 3, click the names Androhard, Androlean, Andromass -- You'll see a few tabs to click for info

Originally Posted by Rodja

Are you dosing the AH with the AL? You should see some "piggybacking" from the delivery system in the AL.

Same with the ECA

Count me in.

Wow, let me know how this goes! Will be watching for updates

Originally Posted by Rodja

Are you dosing the AH with the AL? You should see some "piggybacking" from the delivery system in the AL.

Yeah man, the AH is kicking in nicely at 750 mgs now. I do luck much more full and plan on doing some additional cardio this weekend. Friday I had a miserable workout in a 95 degree gym. The AL gives such a strong thermo to me it can be draining at times, but I just keep my stim doses down and things are fine. And a crapload of water!

Originally Posted by oufinny

Yeah man, the AH is kicking in nicely at 750 mgs now. I do luck much more full and plan on doing some additional cardio this weekend. Friday I had a miserable workout in a 95 degree gym. The AL gives such a strong thermo to me it can be draining at times, but I just keep my stim doses down and things are fine. And a crapload of water!

Damn 95 degree gym on a thermogenic like AL would suck, ya make sure to keep the fluid intake high.

Originally Posted by ryansm

Damn 95 degree gym on a thermogenic like AL would suck, ya make sure to keep the fluid intake high.

Trust me I do, today though will be a test of wills as I had a long day at the pool and am hurting. Looking forward to a workout though, it has been since Friday and I am happy to be getting back into it though my diet was pretty good this weekend leading to some nice recomp. Lean Gains is great, changes happen in days instead of weeks.

Originally Posted by oufinny

Trust me I do, today though will be a test of wills as I had a long day at the pool and am hurting. Looking forward to a workout though, it has been since Friday and I am happy to be getting back into it though my diet was pretty good this weekend leading to some nice recomp. Lean Gains is great, changes happen in days instead of weeks.

Ya I have been hearing a lot of good things about the lean gains diet. I may try it out, if I can fit it in with my schedule.

Been a few days and the body composition changes are coming on quickly, much faster than I thought. I believe a lot of this is related to Lean Gains and that tends to be exacerbated when you factor in the AL/AH combo. I am seeing major fat loss in the mid section and my abs are looking as though I will see them in the next two weeks even if the love handle area needs to lose some fat. Multiple people at the gym have said that I looked fuller and leaner, I feel they are spot on.

AH is kicking in as workout intensity and strength are up. I was ripping down 180 on lat pull downs without issue, drop sets were done complete and at higher weights as well. All the other exercises went well and once these damn hamstrings stop being so sore I can kill legs tomorrow again. I need to do a weigh in tomorrow and see where I am at. If I am around 212-214 then things are staying as they should, muscle gain and fat loss. If I drop down below 210 that is fine as I don't appear to be so low on calories to be losing any LBM.

Today will be cardio after work and I will only have two large meals today since it is a lower cal day. To give you an idea, that is 2000-2200 on low days and around 3000 on high days. I tend to need a significant amount less on lower days due to the EC taken twice on those days and as I get used to intermitent fasting, I don't need as much on days I am not lifting. So that is what is going on, maybe the end of next week I will get some pictures.

Also, I am getting another bottle of the original AH sent to me in trade so the 750 mgs run will continue until that is gone.

Originally Posted by oufinny

So today I did my cardio for 30 minutes, finished a few minutes ago. Took 2 doses of ECA today and did not need my pre-workout at all, still amped from that. I am going to up the dose of AH to 750 mgs per day as I am going to get a bottle of the new AndroHard before the one I have runs out, want to see what the higher dose does as I hear it is awesome. Workout tomorrow and will have another high cal day as well, today will be around 2000-2200 as opposed to my normal 3000 on lifting days.

Damn Fin! You can take ECA throughout the day and still feel something from your pre-workout?!

Originally Posted by VolcomX311

Damn Fin! You can take ECA throughout the day and still feel something from your pre-workout?!

lol Read my mind man...

Originally Posted by VolcomX311

Damn Fin! You can take ECA throughout the day and still feel something from your pre-workout?!

Nah man, I don't need a pre-workout when I take 2 doses of EC during the day. I only ever take EC on non-lifting days as I want to be anabolic on those days and my eating is easily a 1000 calories more. This is the same strategy that MrKleen is using with great effect right now.

Weight update.... drum role please: 217.5
Holy crap I put on about 4-5 pounnds in about 12 days, nice! And I am not eating big at all while leaning out significantly at the same time. I am starting to see the outside vertical lines on my abs very clearly and the top two are starting to pop out more, should be visible by Sunday at this rate. Crazy things are happening, there is something to be said about AH/AL with a sound diet, they do work.

Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy

lol Read my mind man...

Y'all need to read what I wrote, I DID NOT need a pre-workout, trust me EC has me flying until 9 PM on the days I take 2 doses, if I took a pre-workout I would have to run a marathon to calm down.

Originally Posted by oufinny

Weight update.... drum role please: 217.5
Holy crap I put on about 4-5 pounnds in about 12 days, nice! And I am not eating big at all while leaning out significantly at the same time. I am starting to see the outside vertical lines on my abs very clearly and the top two are starting to pop out more, should be visible by Sunday at this rate. Crazy things are happening, there is something to be said about AH/AL with a sound diet, they do work.

Damn that is impressive indeed!

Originally Posted by ryansm

Damn that is impressive indeed!

Changes continue to happen in a positive way. This AM I am up to 219 and look better than I did last week at 217, AH at 750 mgs is the shiznit and I am getting a bottle today from my buddy Resolve so this will continue another 16 days or so; after that I may run something else since I have no signs of shutdown though I am sure they are getting to the shooting blanks stage.

Workouts are getting more intense and the AL before a workout has a tendency to give such a strong thermal that combined with stims, it can make me feel a little nauseous at times. Mind you, this could be the nearly 90 degree gym but it has been consistent on this run and never happened before unless I took too much clen. Weights are up on almost every exercise by 10% or more in some cases, able to get more reps and on my drop sets I am doing more weight; typical results of an androgen. Good stuff and the mirror continues to impress, look about as good as I did at the end of my last DMZ run in regards to muscle fullness though not as "hard in appearance" as I would have expected, could be carb intake related though.

hey nice, this is interesting.. good one

Originally Posted by oufinny

Changes continue to happen in a positive way. This AM I am up to 219 and look better than I did last week at 217, AH at 750 mgs is the shiznit and I am getting a bottle today from my buddy Resolve so this will continue another 16 days or so; after that I may run something else since I have no signs of shutdown though I am sure they are getting to the shooting blanks stage.

Workouts are getting more intense and the AL before a workout has a tendency to give such a strong thermal that combined with stims, it can make me feel a little nauseous at times. Mind you, this could be the nearly 90 degree gym but it has been consistent on this run and never happened before unless I took too much clen. Weights are up on almost every exercise by 10% or more in some cases, able to get more reps and on my drop sets I am doing more weight; typical results of an androgen. Good stuff and the mirror continues to impress, look about as good as I did at the end of my last DMZ run in regards to muscle fullness though not as "hard in appearance" as I would have expected, could be carb intake related though.

Not sure, did you adjust carbs?

Sadly this week was all about my work and I worked out around that. I hit the gym Tu/Th/Fr. Doing full body two days in a row SUCKS. I did continue to progress in weights on some exercises, other I did not but I am near my maxes for 6-8 reps so that is fine.

Body changes are slowly happening, diet was not the best this week so miracles won't happen in that environment. It will continue to get better each day as I get some relief from work. I will see about getting some progress pics at the end of next week.

Shit happens, but you were able to change things around to at least get in some training.

Quick update guys, was amped to hit the gym today, had a sample of Maximize V2 and Hemoval, low and behold my shoulder is not having it. I warmed up, did legs and had a mad crazy pump going, did some back then warmed up on the bench, 135 was painful so I said no more. Did some triceps and than hopped on the treadmill since I was still wired. Put some topical joint cream on, took some gluco/chon/msm and will hope for the best on Wednesday. I will warm up much longer on Wednesday, probably do some light weight movements tomorrow in addition to cardio and that should get me back. I believe the AndroHard is to blame as most of my joints are starting to show some signs of low estrogen and getting sore easily.

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So I have been busy this week, pardon the lack of updates. Interestingly enough, I was up to 222 on Monday morning and yesterday morning I weighed in at 216, guess I was holding a lot of water. Plus, on my off days this week my fast went late into the day and I only took in about 1200-1500 max. Today I will be eating big as I do want to add as much mass as I can with the AH and 220 is the goal. I have about two weeks left of AH, 2.5 days of AL. Once I am off the AndroLean I will continue to work the recomp with AH and see where I get.

I did not workout on Tuesday, just let the diet take care of things and my shoulder was killing me. Hit the weights on Wednesday and it went well, found on the shoulder is healing well and I will be at full strength today. Must have tweaked it a little last week, either way I am going to take it easy on the warm up until it feels 100%. Just an update on the AndroHard and strength. Like the last time I took it, I am going up in strength on pretty much everything but since my calories are not crazy, it seems to be leveling off some. This is fine, I have added a lot of mass since February and my body is still getting used to it it seems; joints get real mad if I push it too hard. I focus more on time under tension and getting in full reps on my drop sets, seems to give the same mass gains even if I am not putting up crazy weights.

Originally Posted by oufinny

I did not workout on Tuesday, just let the diet take care of things and my shoulder was killing me. Hit the weights on Wednesday and it went well, found on the shoulder is healing well and I will be at full strength today. Must have tweaked it a little last week, either way I am going to take it easy on the warm up until it feels 100%. Just an update on the AndroHard and strength. Like the last time I took it, I am going up in strength on pretty much everything but since my calories are not crazy, it seems to be leveling off some. This is fine, I have added a lot of mass since February and my body is still getting used to it it seems; joints get real mad if I push it too hard. I focus more on time under tension and getting in full reps on my drop sets, seems to give the same mass gains even if I am not putting up crazy weights.

^^^I think you got your training right where you need it bud, sounds good.