This isn't true really at all. I have asked people running AAS and you don't have to have the best diets and they still get all the effects of the steroids - pumps/fullness, aggressiveness, strength, weight. You don't need a perfect diet at all, I've heard it time and time again from AAS users. I would like to try andromass for an alternative to aas. I've only used legal oral otc's and was pretty freaking satisfied and mind blowned except for the fact you can only run them for so long till you have to drop it and do pct after only 4-5 weeks.
Then you are talking to the wrong guys, diet is always important.
This isn't true really at all. I have asked people running AAS and you don't have to have the best diets and they still get all the effects of the steroids - pumps/fullness, aggressiveness, strength, weight. You don't need a perfect diet at all, I've heard it time and time again from AAS users. I would like to try andromass for an alternative to aas. I've only used legal oral otc's and was pretty freaking satisfied and mind blowned except for the fact you can only run them for so long till you have to drop it and do pct after only 4-5 weeks.
I agree to disagree from a first hand standpoint. I got amazing gains when I cycled with a shitty diet, "but" I could never break a certain body weight even with higher dosages. I was to stupid to listen to the experienced guys when they told me to eat more. If youre are going through all the trouble to cycle and cant fix your diet its pointless, you will just end up where you started.
I agree to disagree from a first hand standpoint. I got amazing gains when I cycled with a shitty diet, "but" I could never break a certain body weight even with higher dosages. I was to stupid to listen to the experienced guys when they told me to eat more. If youre are going through all the trouble to cycle and cant fix your diet its pointless, you will just end up where you started.
Word. Eating well is so key to making the changes we're looking for. On cycle or not.
I agree to disagree from a first hand standpoint. I got amazing gains when I cycled with a shitty diet, "but" I could never break a certain body weight even with higher dosages. I was to stupid to listen to the experienced guys when they told me to eat more. If youre are going through all the trouble to cycle and cant fix your diet its pointless, you will just end up where you started.
Very true. You need to blast past set points so when you come off, you don't drop back down to where you were previously.
Very true. You need to blast past set points so when you come off, you don't drop back down to where you were previously.
Thats is a really good point. Reset your base but you've got to hold onto the new weight for a certain amount of time. Same thing goes for losing weigth and keeping it off.
Thats is a really good point. Reset your base but you've got to hold onto the new weight for a certain amount of time. Same thing goes for losing weigth and keeping it off.
Agreed, people blowing up in 3 weeks on SD won't hold as much as someone putting on half the weight in 4-8, atleast imo.
Agreed, people blowing up in 3 weeks on SD won't hold as much as someone putting on half the weight in 4-8, atleast imo.
I want to see how the first Andromass users are holding onto their gains 5 or 6 months from now. So far users are saying their not shedding the gains much, good sign so far.
I want to see how the first Andromass users are holding onto their gains 5 or 6 months from now. So far users are saying their not shedding the gains much, good sign so far.
Yep. PCT is usually where the product shows its true colors... if you don't lose then, when hormones are at their lowest/the body is at its worst, then odds are if you don't screw up later, the gains will stay.
I want to see how the first Andromass users are holding onto their gains 5 or 6 months from now. So far users are saying their not shedding the gains much, good sign so far.
Gains and the BF lost as AM has shown to help in that area as well
Gains and the BF lost as AM has shown to help in that area as well
True, losing fat on cycle and gaining is always a good sign. As opposed to gaining BF% where you can be in a worse hormonal spot naturally than when the cycle began, you'll actually be more inclined to be a better hormonal profile! Sounds like a sweet deal to me. Diet has to be on point though.
I've been looking at the log and all I can say is I hope u know what your doing with this chicken tenders pizza cheese burger cookies pizza diet and sun chips? If your having success with this diet u probably have some great genetics, just hope you don't confuse being yoked from being fat. It's just sad to see a lot of guys in the gym I go to don't know the difference. And have u been calculating sodium intake and carb? If I missed it can u throw in the link to the pics? Remmember quality over quantity there's no point of gaining weight if your gona look like michelin man
I've been looking at the log and all I can say is I hope u know what your doing with this chicken tenders pizza cheese burger cookies pizza diet and sun chips? If your having success with this diet u probably have some great genetics, just hope you don't confuse being yoked from being fat. It's just sad to see a lot of guys in the gym I go to don't know the difference. And have u been calculating sodium intake and carb? If I missed it can u throw in the link to the pics? Remmember quality over quantity there's no point of gaining weight if your gona look like michelin man
I've been looking at the log and all I can say is I hope u know what your doing with this chicken tenders pizza cheese burger cookies pizza diet and sun chips? If your having success with this diet u probably have some great genetics, just hope you don't confuse being yoked from being fat. It's just sad to see a lot of guys in the gym I go to don't know the difference. And have u been calculating sodium intake and carb? If I missed it can u throw in the link to the pics? Remmember quality over quantity there's no point of gaining weight if your gona look like michelin man
I am running a log on the AM forums already and was asked to post here as well. I am not a regular here yet, but once I get a feel for the boards I probably will become one. I will be running AM solo, it is my first ph, for 4 weeks. My PCT is going to be the TRS stack.
I am 25, 180lbs, and around 13-15%bf according to calipers.
In addition to lifting I will be doing some cardio and sprints daily.
Diet will be a 40%/40%/20% macro roughly 4000 calories from food. I am getting the Anabolic cookbook so that should help with my food intake.
June 5th -
and today so far -
Good luck on the log bro, haven't been on the pp boards a whole lot lately are you using the same handle over there? My name is aking23 on the pp board. I loved the AM/AH stack and it's kind of what got me started on these types of products.
I agree to disagree from a first hand standpoint. I got amazing gains when I cycled with a shitty diet, "but" I could never break a certain body weight even with higher dosages. I was to stupid to listen to the experienced guys when they told me to eat more. If youre are going through all the trouble to cycle and cant fix your diet its pointless, you will just end up where you started.
Some junk food can be good as long as you save junk binges for high protein junk like burgers or ribs instead of high carb and sugar like cake.
take the top half of the bun off a MCD's double cheeseburger and you have a 25g protein supplement snack with a little carb for energy, all for a $1.29. If you feel like junk food (or don't want to cook) that's a better choice than a handful of oreos.
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