Reply With Quotewhat ephedra products are left on the market then. Because ephedra is a great supplement , ill need to stock up.
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12-12-2002, 04:26 PM #1Senior Member
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It gets WORSE
I told you all about TwinLab discontinuiing Ripped Fuel, Diet Fuel, and Metabolift. Then I mentioned that several major distributors were discontuing thermos because of Twin's lead. This week we got a letter from SportsPharma recalling all Thermadrene from our shelves and just yesterday Optimum told me they had discontinued Thermo-Cuts (one of our best sellers, a clone of HydroxyCut)
Now, if that's not bad enough, the unofficial word from Designer is that Detour Bars WILL NOT BE SHIPPED ON TIME.
Don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger.
DP
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12-12-2002, 04:32 PM #2jacked black college kid
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"well when i need to bang out a couple extra reps, i think to myself the weights my bitch, and the bitch wont get the best of me, hopefully in the gym they are also playing smack my btch up by prodigy"
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12-12-2002, 04:39 PM #3Senior Member
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Tons....but the "trend" is scary!
AST
LABRADA
PROLAB
MUSCLETECH
SAN
METRX
more more more
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12-12-2002, 04:47 PM #4jacked black college kid
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ill go out and buy a couple bottles of hydroxycut then. But how long can a bottle last without me using it. Im on a bulk right now and I wont stop until i reach 240. Im at 210 right now 11%bf. I started at 200 9%bf.
"well when i need to bang out a couple extra reps, i think to myself the weights my bitch, and the bitch wont get the best of me, hopefully in the gym they are also playing smack my btch up by prodigy"
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12-12-2002, 06:23 PM #5Peak Physiques™ ELITE MEMBER
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The same trend is happening in the prohormone area.
DP, do you know why they are being pulled? What has instigated it?
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12-13-2002, 07:24 AM #6Senior Member
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For about 10-12 years it has been drug company pressure on the FDA...they were selling less diet drugs and were pissed.
Almost every BAD thing that had ever happened to anyone on ECA was a result of abuse, overuse, or a congenital defect. The GAO even told the FDA years ago to BACK OFF!
Every year over 3000 people die from ibuprofen, or asperin (the prescription med figures are even more staggering)....more than 30 times the total deaths in over ten years of ECA use. But we never hear about this, ever wonder why?
So what you are seeing is a combination of what a few "next of Kin", can do to politicans that already are influenced by drug companies!
Additionally, the litigious nature of these suits, while starting out semi=legitimately....are now attracting those wishing to "Cash In"
Twin Lab was even sued for the labeling being "to small". luckily it was thrown out of court.
so MHO......the Companies are moving quickly to limit their exposure!
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12-13-2002, 07:33 AM #7Peak Physiques™ ELITE MEMBER
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I think you answered my question in your final comment. You believe its attempting to cut off any issues rather than responding to say civil litigation, FDA inquiry, etc, yes?
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12-13-2002, 10:01 AM #8Senior Member
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Yes.... but it's also kind of the "writing on the wall"...too expensive, time consuming. etc...to fight a battle on so many fronts!
Easier just to avoid the issues! I think that is why the distributors are following the manufacturer's lead.
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12-14-2002, 07:08 AM #9Founder of GOSB SUPER MODERATOR
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I just don't see how they can let that much money slip away. In most GNC stores thermos are the #1 seller!Originally posted by Dr. Pain
Yes.... but it's also kind of the "writing on the wall"...too expensive, time consuming. etc...to fight a battle on so many fronts!
Easier just to avoid the issues! I think that is why the distributors are following the manufacturer's lead.
DP
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My store, L/C foods, protein, bars, creatine and glucosamne probably come right before thermos.
Maybe protein first...we stock and sell tons!
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12-14-2002, 07:19 AM #11Founder of GOSB SUPER MODERATOR
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yeah it's a ton of money at risk!
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12-14-2002, 09:07 AM #12Registered User
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Optimum dropped it a while ago, sportspharma did as well. Twinlab will have theirs gone this coming year. Ergo dropped ergolean. It is all coming down to insurance cost.
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Could the other companies be discontinuing because of the deal that happened to Metabolife?
Ephedra company slapped for $4.1M
Ephedra company slapped for $4.1M
In the first such case to make it to trial, Metabolife International of San Diego was ordered yesterday to pay $4.1 million to four people who had strokes or heart attacks after taking the company's ephedra diet pills.
more...
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