i quit using any form of stimulants. So, i use caffeine free no-xplode with some extra beta alanine and tyrosine added. It actually gives me pretty good pumps.
There are some good products out there. But, if you're gonna take the stim route, you can just pop a caffeine pill and save urself money




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imean jacked is good but 4 scoops to feel it lool


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