Thread: Super DMZ and DECA-DROL 8 WEEK CYCLE!!

dmz- one pill twice aday
deca-one pill three times aday

IML-advanced cycle support

colmid and whatever else I feel I need for pct

I have learned my body if I shut down hard then I will thrown in some hcg

I eat right and train right I will put up a sample diet sometime in the next day or two

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Originally Posted by mattrag

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???? Whats this mean?

I will follow this one

Day 2- Had a wicked awesome back session killed a few sets of Bi's after, pretty sore which is a good thing! I did get a full 8 hrs of sleep so this may have helped with my workout.

Day3- off day (due to work)
Like I said pretty sore from my workout yesterday. yesterday i spent the day at the beach. yes I am burned and tired. however I smashed alot of crappy food, like 3 cupcakes, fried rice and some hot asian chicken, and 2 huge sandwichs. Sundays I normally eat what i want. So this morning I wake up and look in the mir and I notice that with all the shit I ate the day before I really am not that bloated, in fact I am considerably tighter then the day before, also my arms are still pumped.

supps: 30 gram creatin
15 gram arginin
1 scoop No explode (preworkout)

diet : 6-7 meals 4 of which are 50 gram shakes, 3-5 peices of fruit, 2-20 oz meals of ground turkey 93/7, one meal of a nice protein and carb.

you will DO GREAT. I did the transformation chalenge and my first 6 weeks was DMZ ANd 13 ethyl and I saw some great gains from it... NO BLOAT.... I know IML has the additional special ingredient in the deca-drol.

Wished they had it out when I started teh challenge.... I look forward to watching your progress....

Originally Posted by twotuff

Day 2-

supps: 30 gram creatin
15 gram arginin
1 scoop No explode (preworkout)

diet : 6-7 meals 4 of which are 50 gram shakes, 3-5 peices of fruit, 2-20 oz meals of ground turkey 93/7, one meal of a nice protein and carb.

Is that 30 grams of creatine? Why are you taking that much creatine? Trying to workout your kidneys?
The arginine is a waste as well.
You take 4 shakes a day, and only 2-3 real meals a day? That's a horrible diet. You should visit the diet and nutrition section and build a better diet for yourself.

are you taking an ai?

Originally Posted by hulk7510

are you taking an ai?

Not right now I do have on hand tho. I am not overly senistive

Originally Posted by twotuff

Not right now I do have on hand tho. I am not overly senistive

Originally Posted by Mike Arnold
How do these OTC drugs "compare" to the other stuff you'v done? It depends what effects you are comparing. Whenever you are comparing one steroid to another and asking which one is "better", you need to define the word "better" in order to gt an accurate answer.

Decadrol is actually pretty good for a non-methyl oral. It's probably one of the best non-methylated orals, actually, BUT....compared to the drugs you've mentioned (Test, Tren, D-bol), it is nowhere near as good for size or strength. The compound itself has decent potency, but due to it's nonmethylation, the amount of the drug which makes it into the body for use is too low for it to be comparable to methylated orals or injectables. For guys who don't want to run the aforementioned compounds, Decadrol (13-ethyl) is a pretty good stacker for a bit more kick, but for guys who have no problem using other AAS, taking this compound in this fashion is not a great choice to stack with SD/Dimeth. A FAR beter choice for an SD stacker would be an injectable like Testosterone, Trestolone, Trenbolone, Boldenone, or Nandrolone. This compound is pretty much only a wise choice for guys who can't or don't want to use alternative AAS.

An SD/Dimeth combo, such as what's found in DMZ, is extremely potent. In fact, NONE of the traditional orals, such as Winstrol, T-bol, Anavar, D-bol, or even Anadrol...are as potent as SD in terms of muscle fiber growth. This hold true in both the real world, as well as on paper. SD is also a very effective steroid for strength, for most people. The downside to this drug is that it cannot be run for very long. The product you are using, which contains 10 mg of both SD @ Dimeth, should not be run longer than 8 weeks when uing 1 cap per day (20 tot al mg)and 6 weeks at 2 caps per day (40 total mg). However, many people would be better off keeping their cycles at 3-5 weeks in length, especially beginners or intermediates.

Once someone is advanced or upper-intermediate, In my opinion, SD is best off being used only occasionally for specific purposes. I would NOT be adding SD to every mass/strength cycle you run because it is just to brutal on lipids and not too liver freindly either. Some good uses for SD are peaking strength for a powerlifting comp, maximizing size at the end of a mass-building cycle, and filling out for a BB'ing comp.




Thank you for this, it is very informational!! Maybe it will help some of these people who do not understand Ph cycles. One of the reasons I wanted to do this is to test for legitimacy of IML products, also because I wanted to see what is available on the LEGAL side of BB supplementation. I agree that 8 weeks is excessive and like I said before if I dont feel comfortable continuing my experiment then I will stop.

DAY 4: @usealittle... I HAD A WICKED AWESOME chest session!! Great Pump and feeling pretty strong. I will admit I have a crazy sweet tooth however I did not cave in to it last night. Dinner consisted of a spinch salad, 10oz chicken, and some wonderful wild mushroom couscous. I finshed my workout with 5 sets of skull crushers and some rope pull downs. Had veins coming out the top of my chest near the end.
I lowered my creatin intake to 10 grams aday, and my alraginin to 10grams also.

You will want to die after 6 weeks on SD, and your liver will jump out of your body and slap the shit out of you for putting it through that much too. I could stand only 3.5-4 weeks on just DMZ, the addition of SD and M-LMG is not going to make it any more pleasant. IML makes great stuff but I would pulse the SuperDMZ on workout days and just run the M-LMG straight through, your body will thank you. It is an interesting test and it is nice you are logging it, I just truly think it is irresponsibly dangerous to your body and for what? To prove we already know IML supps are high quality, there are TONS of logs that prove that already. Ok, I am off my soap box, do what you want but know you have been warned by more than I about the risks you are taking.

take some TUDC for your liver, it is made to counteract any metabolites of PPHs or AAS that contribute to toxicity in the liver.

Originally Posted by carmineb

take some TUDC for your liver, it is made to counteract any metabolites of PPHs or AAS that contribute to toxicity in the liver.

Thanks Bro!!

Day 5 had another day off training due to work. I stayed away from the junk food last night, and took a major shit. I looked pretty tight this morning. I am jonesn to go train!!! Tomorrow is leg day and I am going to murk it! So yesterday after a dentist appt from hell I worked a 12 hour day. I had a headache most of the day, however I cannot figure out it if is the PH or it was just one of those days. I know my blood pressure is up but thats about all. I feel pretty good. I have incorporated one of my shakes with oatmeal so it would be more of a meal. I am also going to eat fish two of the days of the week and try to shead some bf. I will put some photos up after the weekend.

Day 6: Leg day

workout
warm up leg extension 1x30
1x30
squats 1x15 135
1x12 225
4x10 315
1x12 drop set 4x315 8x225

walking lunges 4 sets
straight leg dl 3x10
calf machine 4 sets
standing calf 3 sets

finoshed with 1x30 on leg extension

My legs are already sore, I could have went heavyr say 365 on squats but I did nice slow reps instead. Bodybuilding not powerlifting!!!

yesterday I had two meals with fish! Was fucking starving, I am doing the same thing to day!

Awesome thread man! I'm going to be following this until your done!

Day 9:

Feeling pretty good!! i missed a meal on sat and felt it yesterday! I will say that I have some wicked pumps and Some serious drive in the gym. However I fully believe that this is going to be thee full effect of the combo that I have stacked together. If i would have to compare it to a test only cycle maybe 300mg a week. I can tell I am on something but so far I am not overly impressed. I dont feel like shit however, which is what I was told I would feel like. No headaches, I sleep thro the night, and no energy crash in the middle of the day. I will say so far so good, sort of what I expected from an otc steroid. I have the same strength that Ive always had however I also have more endurance.

Today i replaced two of my meals with fiish.

Chest day.

Warm up my shoulders and tris
2 warm up sets incline bench smith machine
4 working sets 2x8 (2 45s and 1 25) on each side
2x8 I added a 10 on each side
3x12 db flys 45 pd
4x10 incline hammer streghth
3x10 flast hs superset with machine flys
5x20 skull crusher
3x12 rope push downs