Sounds great looking forward to seeing the weekly results. Keep Pumpin'!
Started my Super DMZ rx stack this morning, and will try and update my progress as much as possible. For starters, I am 42, weigh 171lbs, not sure on my BF %, but will post pics of before and afters. Been training off and on since I was in my early 20's, and this will be my 3rd PH run, the last being 1 Andro Rx. Looking forward to what this stuff can do, as the reviews have been nothing short of stellar!
Week 1-4
Super DMZ rx 2x e/d
Adv Cycle Supp 2x e/d
E-control rx 3x e/d
Anabolic Matrix 2x e/d
Week 5-8
Adv Cycle Supp 2x e/d
E-control rx 3x e/d
Anabolic Matrix 2x e/d
“I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street.”.

Sounds great looking forward to seeing the weekly results. Keep Pumpin'!


awesome, keep us updated!


I've heard varying answers as to whether a serm is necessary...I'll order some clomid this week to be safe.
“I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street.”.

you'll love it. Day 3 you'll know something is different, day 5 appetite will increase, day 7 you'll notice your w/o is easier and you have gained 8 POUNDS!!


Here's where I'm starting...171lbs, like I said, not sure on the BF%
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“I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street.”.
If I were ever to do a ph cycle im sure it would look very similar to this. subbed

Subbed, running this in October.
Had an awesome back and tricep workout this morning! Felt really good. Got on the scale this morning at 173lbs, thought this to be strange as I weighed less last night.
No headache this morning after first dose.![]()
“I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street.”.



Nice thread.
What's your diet and workout program look like?
My diet is pretty good, just trying to consume more protein than what I normally do.
Sun...legs and abs
Mon...shoulders and biceps
Tue...30 mins cardio and calves
Wed...back and triceps
Thurs...30 min cardio
Fri...chest and calves
Sat. Off
Question regarding clomid...should I start this on week 5 or after the 8th week?
Last edited by Showstopper1969; 08-17-2011 at 07:32 AM.
“I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street.”.


Not sure what pretty good means? Pretty good for what exactly? Are you trying to put on size or finishing a cut?
Not sure what this is? Except for the cardio it's a list of bodyparts and doesn't tell me anything. If this is the same program(whatever it is) that you have been doing previous to the cycle then I would get a new routine to change things up and put yourself in a better position for progression.
great base man
now just pack on da lbs
thats an interesting split
Trying to put on size, and "pretty good" means it's not perfect, but gets me by. And I wasn't aware you wanted each idividual exercise for each individual body part...so what would you recommend for progression, as you put it?
Always looking for ways to improve. How would you switch it?
And here is a sample of my daily food intake
5:00 am 26 gram protein shake and 1/2 cup oatmeal (pre workout)
7:00 am 52 gram protein shake
10:00am 6oz chicken on 1/2 piece whole wheat bread
1:00pm 6 oz chicken on 1/2 piece whole wheat bread
3:30 tuna steak with broccoli
7:00 6 oz steak with corn and asparagus
9:30 26 gram shake with 1/2 cup oatmeal
Last edited by Showstopper1969; 08-17-2011 at 09:17 AM.
“I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street.”.


The diet looks fine as long as it provides enough calories to gain weight. Do you know(approximately of course) what your maintence is? Have you been gaining weight?
From your response i'll assume you have been doing that split or something very similiar for awhile. So i would switch to something different like 5/3/1(built in periodization) or a push/pull routine(stickies in the training forum) that's dominated by compound movements. Those are just my recommendations, there are a ton of programs out there and alot of them are very good.
Here is a good read on linear periodization and some good sample routines
getlifting.info » Linear Periodization
Changing programs/exercises will cause your body to adapt to the new stresses by growing new muscle. In addition, it will reduce repetitive motion injuries and boredom.
Thanks PushAndPull! I will check that out, and yes I have been using that same routine for the last year. I do not know what my maintenance is, and always stay around 170 in weigh, soooooo I guess what I'm currently eating is my maintenance!
“I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street.”.

stopper, did u ever goto fitday and start a diet journal? you'd be surprised how insightfull it is. Don't take the dmz/matrix combo w/o food, might give you heartburn. let me know how ur sleep's affected about day 6.


No problem. Since you're currently on a maintenance I would add an additional 500 calories daily. You might want to add something less fibrous if you feel really stuffed. Oatmeal/wheat bread are very fibrous/filling and that sometimes can be a problem when gaining weight. Looking/posting in the diet and nutrition forum can't hurt. Best of luck.

Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )
Then use the activity factor times the BMR
- If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
- If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
- If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
- If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
- If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9
Very good base to start with, will be interesting to see where you end at.
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