what's the best fat burner, period?

**cheesegrater** · 01-07-2003, 11:02 PM

that i could get at a gym or GNC?

i'm 6'2 195lbs, about 7-10lbs extra body fat

**ShaqFu** · 01-08-2003, 05:50 AM

I"m a big fan of straight ECA (Ephedrine/Caffeine/Aspirin).. but if you're rich you can try Hydroxycut. It's got the same basic ingredients plus a few little bonuses.

**Fit Freak** · 01-08-2003, 09:44 AM

If you think you need it try Twinlab's Ripped Fuel. I have read it meets label claims unlike Hydroxycut and in the past it has worked for me.

**Twin Peak** · 01-08-2003, 10:05 AM

Fat burner? Define fat burner?

The best thermogenic product is and E/C stack, don't waste your money on hydroxycut, which is the same think, just more money.

I have heard great things about Avant's new product FL7, which I am not yet up on the science, so I can't describe how it works.

Yohimbine added to an E/C stack is supposed to be good.

I have heard Cayenne powder works, but my stomach couldn't handle it.

Look into Usinic Acid, which is a controvertial supplement.

P.S. Buy online, much cheaper and better (more knowledgable) service. I like 1fast400.com.

**Robboe** · 01-08-2003, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Fat burner? Define fat burner?

The best thermogenic product is and E/C stack, don't waste your money on hydroxycut, which is the same think, just more money.

I have heard great things about Avant's new product FL7, which I am not yet up on the science, so I can't describe how it works.

Yohimbine added to an E/C stack is supposed to be good.

I have heard Cayenne powder works, but my stomach couldn't handle it.

Look into Usinic Acid, which is a controvertial supplement.

P.S. Buy online, much cheaper and better (more knowledgable) service. I like 1fast400.com.

Isn't FL7 pulled now?

**Twin Peak** · 01-08-2003, 10:35 AM

No.

**Robboe** · 01-08-2003, 10:37 AM

Ooooooooooooooooo...

I thought it was going with the other transdermals?

I haven't read avantlabs for donkeys.

**Twin Peak** · 01-08-2003, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
I haven't read avantlabs for donkeys.

Que?

**Robboe** · 01-08-2003, 10:43 AM

'Donkeys years' = A long time.

'Donkeys' = a shortend way of saying it.

A bit like when something is good and is called 'the dogs bollocks', but gets shortend down to 'bollocks'.

We're a strange nation alright...

**Twin Peak** · 01-08-2003, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
'Donkeys years' = A long time.

'Donkeys' = a shortend way of saying it.

A bit like when something is good and is called 'the dogs bollocks', but gets shortend down to 'bollocks'.

We're a strange nation alright...

Que? (re dog's bollocks)

I'll bear in mind the donkey definition in the future, Rob. And yes, quite strange!

**BUSTINOUT** · 01-08-2003, 11:05 AM

Well, since I'm asssuming you mean legal, I'll keep my mouth shut. lol

OTC, ripped fuel always did right by me.

**RoCk79** · 01-08-2003, 11:18 AM

I have seen some reports that ripped fuel is not good for you. Did they change the ingrediants for it?

Also, I thought I Read somewhere, that they are no longer selling hydroxycut due to the affects it has on people. Has anybody else heard this?

**RoCk79** · 01-08-2003, 11:20 AM

Just read DP's thread on viscious rumors...About Hydroxycut no longer being sold. Answered my own question..I knew I read that somewhere...HAHA

**Twin Peak** · 01-08-2003, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by RoCk79
I have seen some reports that ripped fuel is not good for you. Did they change the ingrediants for it?

Also, I thought I Read somewhere, that they are no longer selling hydroxycut due to the affects it has on people. Has anybody else heard this?

Why do we talk so much of products? Products are only as good as there ingredients. Don't take any product unless (1) you know the ingredients and (2) you know why the ingredients work. If you understand that THEN you can make informed PRODUCT choices.

Sorry, this irritates me.

**gopro** · 01-08-2003, 06:19 PM

Most of the basic ECA stacks work well...

-Ripped Fuel
-Xenadrine
-Hydroxycut
-etc

I have found ADRENALINE by Gennapharm very useful as it contains non-herbal ingredients. I also like VPXs Clenbutrx.

**david** · 01-08-2003, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by gopro
Most of the basic ECA stacks work well...
I also like VPXs Clenbutrx.

You know I was waiting for you to say this!!!!!

**gopro** · 01-09-2003, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by david
You know I was waiting for you to say this!!!!!

Of course!

**Hammerlynn** · 01-09-2003, 07:36 AM

I used that stuff too for a while! LOVED it! But back in Aug I stopped taking any thermos. If I ever use them again....it will be Clenbutrx!

**david** · 01-09-2003, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Hammerlynn
I used that stuff too for a while! LOVED it! But back in Aug I stopped taking any thermos. If I ever use them again....it will be Clenbutrx!

Hammer, I believe if you've laid off it for this long, DON'T go back and try the other non ephedra free drinks! Your doing yourself a favor......... in other words, don't be come an addict like I once was...!

**Freeman** · 01-09-2003, 08:41 PM

I take Ripped Fuel before a workout in the morning because I can really only work out in the AM before classes. And I hate waking up..and I HATE coffee! so, it gives me a little boost in the morning. But, I only take what I have, then lay off for a few months..I'm on my 2nd cycle now...I don't take them 3 times a day like the F-ing label says..I'm not on a cut! just need to wake up!

**david** · 01-09-2003, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by freeman1504
I take Ripped Fuel ..........I'm not on a cut! just need to wake up!

Good thing your not on a cut bc/ it contains some carbs, I believe! Check the bottle...... Good choice.

**Hammerlynn** · 01-09-2003, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by david
Hammer, I believe if you've laid off it for this long, DON'T go back and try the other non ephedra free drinks! Your doing yourself a favor......... in other words, don't be come an addict like I once was...!

I was pretty obsessed with taking it but now I dont care anymore. It was funny at work though cleaning out my syringe

Damn they all thought I was juicing!

**david** · 01-09-2003, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by Hammerlynn
I was pretty obsessed with taking it but now I dont care anymore. It was funny at work though cleaning out my syringe

Damn they all thought I was juicing!

You were! There was Winny V in the Clen that you were taking.... didn't you know? J/K!!!! All I need is VPX seeing this!

**Mudge** · 01-10-2003, 03:06 AM

7-10 pounds is NOTHING, the "best" stuff is extremely dangerous, although I'm sure you could get it at some gyms, its illegal, or prescription depending on what it is.

**kuso** · 01-10-2003, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Ooooooooooooooooo...

TCD....I just sw Mike is now selling it in the 8oz size.

**gopro** · 01-10-2003, 07:41 AM

I ONLY use fat burners before I compete! They remain most effective for fat burning that way...and I hate to rely on stimulants to "get up" for my workouts.

**Freeman** · 01-10-2003, 07:57 AM

I know I know...I probably shouldn't take them, but it's just hard for me to be awake so early in the AM. Like I said, I'll cut them out in a few weeks or so probably. I'll try to stear clear of them for a while after that...

**Twin Peak** · 01-10-2003, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by gopro
I ONLY use fat burners before I compete! They remain most effective for fat burning that way...and I hate to rely on stimulants to "get up" for my workouts.

Yeah, but do you train at 5:30 in the friggin morning? I need either a cup of coffee or an EC stack.

**gopro** · 01-10-2003, 08:07 AM

Don't matter when I train...I still go "stim" free up to about 12 weeks before a show! But then again, I'm not normal...

**Freeman** · 01-10-2003, 08:15 AM

Hahaha..yeah you're a "freak" gopro! But, we all love ya!

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