Thread: Before You Try Product -- Let Me

I got some really good feedback from you guys on the Introduction / Welcome page. People were really nice about it. I think I should field some questions from that page.

I realize that sitting around drinking beer isn't going to do me any good, but my point was I wanted to be a kind of control project just to see what would happen to a dude like me if I simply take supplements and do no life changes.

People have reasoned with me that this is a pointless thing to do. I agree. So, I'm gonna test two other popular products as work out. I think I will also stop drinking heavily (vodka) and stick mostly to a couple of beers on the weekend.

Exercise Products to be tested:
1. Shake Weight!
2. Stair Stepper!

Need assistance on what to eat. Goal: Lose mid-section fat.

So how often do I need to workout? I don't have a lot of time. So I think maybe 3 times a week?

Answer to another question: No I don't plan on any PCT. People say it's not necessary if you're only using supplements.

Side effects: (This could just be in my head) I think I have noticed my finger nails growing more quickly since starting Androlean (DHEA) and TestoSurge (Chrysin). More nose hair? LOL? It's been 4 days. Kind of feel jittery sometimes. Restless in sleep if I take in the evening before bed. Chrysin seems to relieve jittery feeling.

Effect: Energy level up, depression level down, and feel better actually. I feel like working out.

Final Question: Should I do before and after pictures?

Thanks again guys. I know I don't know anything about it, but I want to get some help from people who know. I'm a newb.

Holler!

I'm not sure if this is a serious post or not?

This must be a joke: shake weight and stair stepper?

This can't be real. funny though

I use my shake weight daily....

Is this dude for real or what? He can't be. This is either a fat lazy MF with nothing better to do or some underaged Kid f-ing with us on his spare time. WTF

Shake Weight-

You know this dude is on the other end laughing his ass off sipping on his vodka.

Probably some fat troll sitting on the other end butt ass naked in his chair shaking his weight while writing this post.

Looser

I'm - repping this bitch

lol

Oh man. You need a lot of help lol

there you have it!!! More nose hair, longer nails!!

should try P90X while you're at it...

I get it that some of you are serious body builders and all that, but others just need advice about getting in shape. I don't need all those heavy weights to lose mid section fat and tone up. I'm not going to be in any Mr. Universe contests soon so... I'm being serious. I just need advice from people genuinely interested in helping me. I'm just asking for a little help.

So far I've lost 4lbs. I think it's almost entirely from the supplements. I haven't really changed my diet yet. I have cut back on alcohol a lot. My shake weight hasn't gotten here yet. It's not supposed to make you bigger, but rip you. I'm serious about trying it too. I'm not making this up for a joke. So, if you can give me advice I'd appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Androlean Result

So far I've lost 4lbs. I think it's almost entirely from the supplements.

And your reasoning is

Originally Posted by Androlean Result

I haven't really changed my diet yet. I have cut back on alcohol a lot.

Of course cutting back on alcohol is not a change in your diet?

I hope that you are a troll. You're better off being lonely than stupid.

Originally Posted by Androlean Result

I get it that some of you are serious body builders and all that, but others just need advice about getting in shape. I don't need all those heavy weights to lose mid section fat and tone up. I'm not going to be in any Mr. Universe contests soon so... I'm being serious. I just need advice from people genuinely interested in helping me. I'm just asking for a little help.

So far I've lost 4lbs. I think it's almost entirely from the supplements. I haven't really changed my diet yet. I have cut back on alcohol a lot. My shake weight hasn't gotten here yet. It's not supposed to make you bigger, but rip you. I'm serious about trying it too. I'm not making this up for a joke. So, if you can give me advice I'd appreciate it.

Return the shake weight and get a gym membership bud< best advice I can give you. Since you are a beginner I suggest not relying on supplements either.

If this is serious, you need to start over and read the stickies

Well, it seems that there is little help here. I think I will go join a forum where people are more helpful.

Goodbye

Guys, keep the thread on topic and stop the flaming. I just deleted a few posts in the thread.

Thanks

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Guys, keep the thread on topic and stop the flaming. I just deleted a few posts in the thread.

Thanks

I was wondering where the heavy fire went.

Lifting weights does not make someone a bodybuilder. Tons of people lift weights for general health reasons. It's a great way to maintain bone density through old age, a good way to maintain a healthy and able body and it's actually a very good way to burn calories. Why? Because muscle burns calories. Also, the metabolic effects of strength training include the fact that after a strength training session, caloric expenditure is ramped up.

So strength train. It will burn more calories than running. Cardio is good for conditioning and for shedding fat (as its primary fuel source is fat). But any trainee should have a weight lifting base to their workouts.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Guys, keep the thread on topic and stop the flaming. I just deleted a few posts in the thread.

Thanks

i apologize for my rant. it seems the past 2 days have been iffy as far as aggression

might i suggest swimming? its fun its relaxing and if you bust ur ass in the pool very rewarding...

this is gon be good

Well, It's been a little over 3 weeks I think? I've lost 11 pounds. My arms and legs are more fit / defined. My waste is thinner. Beer gut almost gone. I feel stronger. Energy levels are way up. The desire to exercise has increased. I fit old clothes again. I don't like the increase in acne and oily skin. If I feel too aggressive I just skip a day of taking the Androlean and Chrysin. I would suggest this to people who don't want to juice, and from people I've talked to this would be a good option for people 35+ who want to trim up and feel young again. One of the side effects is an increase in libido which is good for older males who have decreased sex drive. I have zits like a 20 year old. I haven't had zits in 10 years. LOL. I feel young! So far, a good result. I think this might help serious body builders with PCT in lieu of whatever they take for that. Also, this might prime them for their cycle. To me it feels hormonal. As if... makes you kind of horny like you were in your 20s. It's great for energy. It takes a couple of weeks to feel the energy increase. People who juice probably won't notice these side effects as much since their test levels are volatile.

To me, this is a good product, if not the best DHEA product on the market both in terms of result and price. I strongly suggest using this hand in hand with Chrysin. I wasn't able to get the fat off the mid section before. I will update more later. I imagine this to be really mild for serious body builders, but a great dietary supplement for 35+ males (not females) who are interested in improving their appearance. You definitely should work out with this product. If you don't feel like working out at first, you will within a couple of weeks. It kind of dug me out of my 30 something slump. I'm moving to heavier weights this week. The shake weight is something to keep in the corner of the office to do while your not too busy. It will wear your arms out. I with they would make one with more weight. It tones, but doesn't build muscle. I haven't notice that my arms are bigger. The hangy fat is gone. Also, the fat under my chin is almost gone. Thanks to board moderators for making me feel welcome. I just wanted to review this product and get help with getting back in shape. Thank You.

I'm glad AL worked well for you bud and thank you for the review

You should keep an eye on the new version of Androlean, it'll be 11-keto and 7-keto. Great for leaning out, ESPECIALLY around the gut/love handles in men. It'll be released sometime late this year or early 2012.

I have noticed that this product has more side effects. If I stop taking it for a few days I have moments of depression. However, I am a pre-disposed person who already had depression. When I do take it, on schedule, my mood shifts from depressed to aggressive. I behave a bit differently and see my world differently. I noticed that when I trade stocks I play to win and less conservatively. That can be both good and bad. The biggest thing is that when I wake up I don't feel weak. My body feels strong and ready for the day. Instead of slouching my way to the shower, I jump in it. I wash myself and meditate. All day long I feel confident, despite the situation, and less nervous. I used to feel anxious in crowds, but now I scan them, and feel reassured that I can defend myself if attacked. I am former military, NOT COMBAT TRAINED, but was horrified by what I knew was happening. Anxiety way down... confidence way up... mentally sharper. I got attacked by a MILF lately. That has not happened in a while. Which was kind of cool. I will continue to use this product and report results. I feel more Alpha. I went from being Alan Alda (the guy girls talk to) to a clever and nerdy Jason Bourne. Everything is more crisp. I noticed that I was fattening up and that happens as you get older. You go from looking like a stud to someone's dad. I'm nobody's dad... yet. Definitely more focused on getting laid. This could account for the aggression in trading stocks. I'm building a new life. This had to happen. After talking with people who seriously train (for body building competitions) they tell me that this is good for me. They stir me away from juicing because they say that I have the depression issue and that it is magnified when the training cycle ends. I never wanted to be a competition body builder, but wanted to be strong, quick, and pardon the pun but "all that I can be". Definitely something happening when you take DHEA (Andro lean's primary ingredient) and Chrysin. (It balances the whole thing for me and removes mid section fat) My stomach is flat, my shoulders broader, my posture is better. (especially socially) I'm curious about psychological effects, but all seems mild in comparison to people whom juice. We were never really trained for combat or anything. We were taught to evade, to be fast and strong, and above all clever. I recommend this product for older males whose job requires physical training. (lifeguards, bodyguards, military, law enforcement) I am on probation for a crime. It has not shown up in my piss. I hear it is not legal to ship it to Germany. Can't confirm.