Starting my new cycle

**Vale Tudo** · 01-23-2003, 07:44 AM

Alright guys, I am starting my new cycle of Ergo's 1-AD, and their Androdiol Select 300 (4-AD). This is my plan
Week:1: 400 mg 1-AD, 600 Mg 4-AD
Week 2: 500 mg, 1-AD, 600 mg 4-AD
Week 3: 600 mg, 1-AD, 600 mg 4-AD
Week 4: 600 mg, 1-AD, 600 mg 4-AD
Week 5: 500 mg, 1-AD, 600 mg 4-AD
Week 6: 400 mg, 1-AD, 300 mg 4-AD
Week 7: start cycling off with oxo or tribex

So what do you guys think of this cycle? DG, GP, anyone else? does it look ok and safe? thanks for the help guys

**Vale Tudo** · 01-24-2003, 10:38 AM

Hello? Anyone have any opinons on this?

**gopro** · 01-24-2003, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Vale Tudo
Alright guys, I am starting my new cycle of Ergo's 1-AD, and their Androdiol Select 300 (4-AD). This is my plan
Week:1: 400 mg 1-AD, 600 Mg 4-AD
Week 2: 500 mg, 1-AD, 600 mg 4-AD
Week 3: 600 mg, 1-AD, 600 mg 4-AD
Week 4: 600 mg, 1-AD, 600 mg 4-AD
Week 5: 500 mg, 1-AD, 600 mg 4-AD
Week 6: 400 mg, 1-AD, 300 mg 4-AD
Week 7: start cycling off with oxo or tribex

So what do you guys think of this cycle? DG, GP, anyone else? does it look ok and safe? thanks for the help guys

Ok, the cycle looks good, but I'd make a small change...since you are going pretty high in your dosages I would take an extra week to taper down. In week seven I would drop down to 200 mg 1-AD and 300 mg 4-AD (or even 150 mg). I would also start both the Tribex or Fuzu along with 6-OXO in week 7. This will allow them to reach working blood levels right about the time your cycle is done. If you wait until week 8 you may start losing muscle.

**ZECH** · 01-24-2003, 06:14 PM

I am not a fan of increasing doses gradually. I would start at what you want your highest dose to be and stay there. You get faster blood saturations that way and you are at that level for a longer time giving your muscles better chance for growth. If you want to taper that would be fine. Stay with fuzu/tribex and 6-0x0.

**gopro** · 01-24-2003, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by dg806
I am not a fan of increasing doses gradually. I would start at what you want your highest dose to be and stay there. You get faster blood saturations that way and you are at that level for a longer time giving your muscles better chance for growth. If you want to taper that would be fine. Stay with fuzu/tribex and 6-0x0.

Totally respect what you are saying here. In fact, in the steroid using community there has been a debate for years as to whether to begin at your highest dose and taper down...or to use one dose throughout...or to start low, taper up and then taper down. Arguments for all sides have merit and I think that each person gets different results from different protocols.

The situation with prohormones is very much the same, however, I have seen the protocol that Vale is using work best and most consistently. Your experience may be different which is why in this case I do not believe there is a "right" or "wrong."

**Vale Tudo** · 01-24-2003, 07:06 PM

hey thanks a lot guys, I really do apperciate the help. I will do what you guys say

**ZECH** · 01-24-2003, 07:08 PM

I would stick with what GP laid out. I was just voicing my opinion.

**gopro** · 01-25-2003, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by dg806
I would stick with what GP laid out. I was just voicing my opinion.

And you always give great opinions!

**ZECH** · 01-25-2003, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by gopro
And you always give great opinions!

Well I give opinions, but not sure about great? I try though.

**gopro** · 01-26-2003, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by dg806
Well I give opinions, but not sure about great? I try though.

Give yourself credit where its due! You have become one of the more knowledgable people on this board.

**ZECH** · 01-26-2003, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by gopro
Give yourself credit where its due! You have become one of the more knowledgable people on this board.

Thank you sir!

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